Weight lifting for women

Hey guys! I am looking for help with my weight lifting routine, with minimal cardio included. I try to isolate certain body parts per day, Monday/Friday- legs, Tuesday - tri's and bi's Wednesday - Back and Chest, Thursday - shoulders. My question is, does this schedule look good? And how many different excercises should I do per body part? For example, would front raise, lateral raise, shoulder press and shoulder shrugs/ 3 sets of 10 reps each be an adequate shoulder workout?

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  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    Are you new to lifting? If so, you'll get much better results from a Full Body routine x2-3/week. Body Part Splits like you're running are more for the advanced lifter. That said, there's tons of proven Full Body routines all over the internet.
  • I'm somewhat new. I've been lifting off and on for the past few months, I've never really stuck to a certain routine schedule for very long
  • contingencyplan
    contingencyplan Posts: 3,639 Member
    Your best bet as a beginner is to stick to a routine such as Stronglifts or Starting Strength or New Rules of Lifting for Women. Worry about switching to a split routine after you start to plateau out from a program like that. Skipping straight to a split routine as a beginner will yield sub-optimal results.
  • Terpnista84
    Terpnista84 Posts: 517 Member
    Are you new to lifting? If so, you'll get much better results from a Full Body routine x2-3/week. Body Part Splits like you're running are more for the advanced lifter. That said, there's tons of proven Full Body routines all over the internet.

    Define new... I am no stranger to lifting but I don't consider myself advanced. I just decided to split my routines because I felt it would be more effective and I would have more energy to dedicate to that muscle group.
  • Leadfoot_Lewis
    Leadfoot_Lewis Posts: 1,623 Member
    Define new... I am no stranger to lifting but I don't consider myself advanced. I just decided to split my routines because I felt it would be more effective and I would have more energy to dedicate to that muscle group.

    IMO a newbie is someone who hasn't been lifting for at least 6 months - and by 6 months I mean consistency on a good lifting program with progression. Not running from machine to machine in a gym or doing a Jillian Michaels DVD program.

    Protein Synthesis (rebuilding of muscle) takes 48 hours, 72 hours tops if you're really using a lot of volume. That said, you will see the best results working a muscle group every 2-3 days, not every 7 days. Of course like anything, everyone is different and there are exceptions. But for most newbies, a Full Body workout 2-3x/week is a good start, then progress to Upper/Lower 2x week and go from there. FWIW - I've been lifting for years and I do an Upper/Lower split.
  • I'm not big on doing primarily full body workouts. I do agree that a split routine may not be my best option right now. I so consider myself immediate and not a beginner. What do you think of maybe a lower/upper body split instead?
  • contingencyplan
    contingencyplan Posts: 3,639 Member
    I'm not big on doing primarily full body workouts. I do agree that a split routine may not be my best option right now. I so consider myself immediate and not a beginner. What do you think of maybe a lower/upper body split instead?

    Why the issue with full body workouts? The issue is if you work in splits you won't be focusing as much on compounds as much as a beginner should. And yes, you are a beginner if you haven't been consistent about it.
  • corgarian
    corgarian Posts: 366 Member
    I lift 3 days a week and have derby practice 3 days a week. So for my lifting days I do upper body split Pull/Push, and a leg day.
    So this week looks a little like this:
    Monday: rest
    tuesday: upper body push (takes me about 45 min)
    wednesday: Roller Derby Practice (2 and a half hours)
    thursday: Roller Derby practice
    Friday: Upper body Pull (45 min)
    Saturday: Leg Day
    Sunday: Roller Derby practice.

    I will admit if I'm feeling tired and need an extra day off I will sacrafice my leg day because I work my legs so much at practice.
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    I'm not big on doing primarily full body workouts. I do agree that a split routine may not be my best option right now. I so consider myself immediate and not a beginner. What do you think of maybe a lower/upper body split instead?
    Why are you against full body workouts? Compound moves like deadlifts, squats, standing overhead press, etc will often give you much better results than doing a bunch of tricep dips or leg lifts.
  • I understand what you're saying, in that case I'm a beginner! What are some full body workouts that you recommend? I'm willing to give them a shot
  • I guess I'm not so much against them, I just don't know how to effectively put together a full body workout routine. If anyone has a detailed one they would like to send me, I would greatly appreciate it!
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    Check out StrongLifts 5x5 (website) or New Rules of Lifting for Women (book). Very different approaches, but both have great progressive full body routines.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I guess I'm not so much against them, I just don't know how to effectively put together a full body workout routine. If anyone has a detailed one they would like to send me, I would greatly appreciate it!

    so use one already put together like
    Starting Strength
    strong lifts
    new rules of lifting
    strong curves
    wendler 5/3/1

    no reason to try to reinvent the wheel. :)
  • corgarian
    corgarian Posts: 366 Member
    This could be legnthy, and I'm sure there are people here with better plans, but I consider myself beginner/intermediate.
    My lifting routines are loong, most of my male lifting friends dont do nearly this much, but they may do more weight, and more sets. you are absolutly allowed to edit this.

    Upper Body Push:
    Cable flys: 4x10
    Front raises: 4x10 (sometimes I'll 5x5 this)
    lateral raises: 4x10 (sometimes I'll 5x5 this)
    Dumbbell bench press: 4x10 (sometimes I'll 5x5 this)
    arnold press: 4x10 (sometimes I'll 5x5 this)
    lying down flys: 4x10
    shoulder press: 4x10 (sometimes I'll 5x5 this)
    tricep pull downs: 4x10
    tricep dips:4x10
    pull ups: to fail

    Upper Body Pull:
    Wide grip pull down: 4x10
    reverse grip pull down: 4x10
    upright rows: 4x10 (sometimes I'll 5x5 this)
    bent over row: 4x10
    Row machine: 4x10 (sometimes I'll 5x5 this)
    bicep curls: 4x10
    wide grip pull ups: 4x10

    Leg Day:
    Weighted squats: 4x10
    deadlifts: 4x10
    dumbbell lunges: 4x10
    donkey kicks: 4x10
    leg press: 4x10
    weighted calf raises: 4x10

    On days I lift I MAYBE so 20 min of cardio, I prefer stair master.
  • mandeenicoleb
    mandeenicoleb Posts: 479 Member
    I started on Stronglifts and it was a great simple plan to begin with!
  • contingencyplan
    contingencyplan Posts: 3,639 Member
    I understand what you're saying, in that case I'm a beginner! What are some full body workouts that you recommend? I'm willing to give them a shot

    The ones I mentioned such as New Rules of Lifting for Women, Stronglifts, and Starting Strength are what's ideal for you.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Also- forgot to mention.

    Weight lifting is weight lifting


    there is no weight lifting for men- or weight lifting for women. There is no difference- it's a shame we have so much marketting splitting them apart because really it's just weight lifting- I hate even saying "look for a man's program" because it's NOT a man's program. It's just a lifting program!!!
  • Which would be better to start with between strong lifts and new rules of lifting for women?
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Which would be better to start with between strong lifts and new rules of lifting for women?

    either one.

    I've heard New Rules can be wordy- but it's a solid book- if I didn't know anything about lifting I would totally read it.
  • ew_david
    ew_david Posts: 3,473 Member
    Which would be better to start with between strong lifts and new rules of lifting for women?

    I would read New Rules for the info, but I would do the Stronglifts program because it's straightforward. New Rules program has a lot of "fluff."
  • BusyRaeNOTBusty
    BusyRaeNOTBusty Posts: 7,166 Member
    Which would be better to start with between strong lifts and new rules of lifting for women?

    I would read New Rules for the info, but I would do the Stronglifts program because it's straightforward. New Rules program has a lot of "fluff."

    My opinion exactly. I read the book. Did the first phase (which is very straightforward and basic), then moved on to Stronglifts.

    Here's a good summary of Stronglifts:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/560459-stronglifts-5x5-summary
  • EllaIsNotEnchanted
    EllaIsNotEnchanted Posts: 226 Member
    If your routine feels good and you are getting benefits I do not see the reason to change it.
    I'm really unsure how effective your training is because you just labeled certain body parts- not specific lifts.

    Here are some lifts you can go by:


    Presses:
    bench press
    Incline Bench Press; upper chest, front shoulders, back of upper arm
    Decline Bench Press; chest (lower emphasis); front of shoulder; back of upper arm
    close Grip Bench Press; Chest; arms; front of shoulders
    Supine Fly; chest
    Incline Fly; chest
    Press;
    Neck Press; shoulder
    Push Press; Shoulder Girdle


    Pulls
    Clean Pulls
    Snatch Pulls
    Bent Over Rows
    Upright Rows; Upper Chest- Shoulder girdle
    Front Lat Pulls (overhand Grip); Back
    Front Lat pulls (underhand Grip); Back
    Seated Cable Rows; BAck
    Bent Arm Pullovers; Chest (outer); back; back shoulder; Tricep (long head)
    Pullups

    Squats:
    Front Squat
    Back Squat
    Overhead Squat
    Dead Lift
    Straight Legged Dead Lift
    Step Up; legs
    Leg Lunges; lower body
    Single Leg Squat (body weight)-aka pistol.

    Olympic Lifts:
    Snatch Related Lifts-
    Snatch; Total Body
    Power Snatch
    Hang Power Snatch
    Snatch Pull; Leg and Back Strength
    Drop Snatch; Total Body
    Overhead Squats; Total Body
    Snatch Push Press; Shoulder Girdle and Back Strength
    belt Snatch; Hip and Leg musculature
    Clean and Jerk Related; Legs and Back
    Clean
    Power Clean
    Hang Power Clean; Total Body
    clean Pull; Leg and Back
    Push-Jerk; Shoulder Girdle and back
    Jerk
    clean and Jerk; Total Body


    Supplementary
    Lying tricep Extension; Back of arm
    Standing Tricep Extension
    Standing Tricep Extenstion (cable)
    Bar Dips
    Standing Arm Curls; Front part of upper and lower arm
    Concentration Curls
    Front Raises; Front of shoulders
    Side Raises; Middle of shoulder
    Bent Over Raises; Back of shoulder
    Shoulder Shrugs; shoudler girdle
    Leg Curl; legs
    Leg Extension
    Calf Raises


    Core
    Good Mornings; Back
    Back Extensions
    glute-Hamstring Extensions
    Situps
    V-ups
    Trunck Curls
    Leg Raises
    roman Chair


    I. Build yourself a solid foundation. Adapt to your new established program. Give the body an opportunity to adapt to additional stress. General conditioning can be anything really- 3x10 is a safe conditioning.

    II. Give yourself some variability and options for adaptation
    You can- change sequence of exercises (Monday shall be medium exertion, Wednesday should be heavy, Friday shall be light).
    You can change core exercises
    You can change number of workouts per week
    or my favorite, change rest time between sets.



    Really, I see nothing wrong with your routine. I just do not know your routine when you just list general body parts.
  • perfectlytrained
    perfectlytrained Posts: 83 Member
    Define new... I am no stranger to lifting but I don't consider myself advanced. I just decided to split my routines because I felt it would be more effective and I would have more energy to dedicate to that muscle group.

    IMO a newbie is someone who hasn't been lifting for at least 6 months - and by 6 months I mean consistency on a good lifting program with progression. Not running from machine to machine in a gym or doing a Jillian Michaels DVD program.

    Protein Synthesis (rebuilding of muscle) takes 48 hours, 72 hours tops if you're really using a lot of volume. That said, you will see the best results working a muscle group every 2-3 days, not every 7 days. Of course like anything, everyone is different and there are exceptions. But for most newbies, a Full Body workout 2-3x/week is a good start, then progress to Upper/Lower 2x week and go from there. FWIW - I've been lifting for years and I do an Upper/Lower split.

    definitely not claiming to be a special snowflake, but due to my schedule i only work out muscle groups 1x every week... i have been doing this since the beginning (6 months ago) with the exception of adding additional at-home glute challenges starting in month 3.

    my results thus far:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1309674-6-months-of-lifting-loving-my-body-recomp
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Which would be better to start with between strong lifts and new rules of lifting for women?

    I would read New Rules for the info, but I would do the Stronglifts program because it's straightforward. New Rules program has a lot of "fluff."

    I agree with this ^^
  • gymbunny1962
    gymbunny1962 Posts: 36 Member
    Which would be better to start with between strong lifts and new rules of lifting for women?

    I would read New Rules for the info, but I would do the Stronglifts program because it's straightforward. New Rules program has a lot of "fluff."

    I agree with this ^^

    Was starting to think it was just me that wasn't a big NROL4W fan! Tried for a few months but have had better results with a program tailored to suit my own specific requirements.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Which would be better to start with between strong lifts and new rules of lifting for women?

    I would read New Rules for the info, but I would do the Stronglifts program because it's straightforward. New Rules program has a lot of "fluff."

    I agree with this ^^

    Was starting to think it was just me that wasn't a big NROL4W fan! Tried for a few months but have had better results with a program tailored to suit my own specific requirements.

    I did 3 months, I liked the first month but after that it seemed like it moved away from the main compound lifts, and there was all that HIIT training I didn't want to be bothered with.