Yes, 1200 calorie diets work!
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Wow. I only could get through the third page or so before I felt bad for many of the respondents. It is amazing how everyone here knows everything and will be the first to tell you such. People "speaking from experience" on how "horrible" the diet is need to remember, different people require different diets. Just because this diet did not work for you does not mean it won't work for others. All of these scary stats about the diet make me laugh. That is like me telling someone "DON'T DRIVE! There are so many deaths from driving! You should only take a plane because it is safer! I know this because I drove once and I got hurt but I have never been hurt flying."
I am not a gym rat nor do I desire the "bulky, muscular body". I am still VERY strong but I would be lying to say I am not losing SOME muscle mass. However, I am not "Skinny fat" as many like to comment on.
Here are two points I would like you to think about. One is medically proven and the other is logically proven. Lets start with the logical first.
Logically speaking, you have a choice, 100 calories of McDonald's French Fries or 100 Calories of Celery. To put this in a visual comparison, think about 2/3 of a KID'S sized fries vs several stalks of celery. Which would make you FULLER and HEALTHIER? If I could only eat 100 calories, I would pick celery. Why? Because it will fill me up, keep me full longer AND supply nutrients. What would the McPuke fries do? Leave me hungry, sick and disgusted. Now, replace these foods with ANY foods. 100 Calories of ice cream vs 100 calories of chicken, etc. The logic of this diet is UNDENIABLE. You can NOT eat ANYTHING on a 1200 calorie diet. You have to eat QUALITY food. Now, some of you will still argue "well I eat bacon and eggs every morning. All I need to do is run an extra 4 miles to burn off the bacon" My response, DON'T EAT THE FREAKIN' BACON!!!! hahahaha Replace it with egg whites!
Medically speaking. I have a few loved ones that underwent bariatric surgery. They had a gastric bypass. Guess how many calories they ate for two months post op? Not even 300 calories a day. Geeee, they lost weight dramatically, hair didn't fall out, nails didn't get brittle. Because like smart people, they took vitamins.... For the first few years, guess what their calorie intake went up to UNDER DOCTOR'S ORDERS????? 800-1000. Yes, flamers will argue "well, they were under doctor's care" No they weren't. They were given a post op diet and weighed in once a year for three years. They lost 200 pounds, look great and have kept it off. So please, random gym rat or upset yo-yo dieter, before you begin to tell people that it is impossible, unhealthy, or leads to eating disorders, think about the basis of this diet. I will believe 1000's of bariatric doctors before I believe some poster that likes to think they know everything because they lost 30 pounds by going to the gym.
Those of you who made it this far into this thread and think 1200 calories is for you, try it. See what happens. If you begin to exhibit unhealthy symptoms, then stop. But don't believe everything you see on here. I have yet to have a problem other than needing to constantly update my wardrobe.
Let the fighting begin.....0 -
Wow. I only could get through the third page or so before I felt bad for many of the respondents. It is amazing how everyone here knows everything and will be the first to tell you such. People "speaking from experience" on how "horrible" the diet is need to remember, different people require different diets. Just because this diet did not work for you does not mean it won't work for others. All of these scary stats about the diet make me laugh. That is like me telling someone "DON'T DRIVE! There are so many deaths from driving! You should only take a plane because it is safer! I know this because I drove once and I got hurt but I have never been hurt flying."
I am not a gym rat nor do I desire the "bulky, muscular body". I am still VERY strong but I would be lying to say I am not losing SOME muscle mass. However, I am not "Skinny fat" as many like to comment on.
Here are two points I would like you to think about. One is medically proven and the other is logically proven. Lets start with the logical first.
Logically speaking, you have a choice, 100 calories of McDonald's French Fries or 100 Calories of Celery. To put this in a visual comparison, think about 2/3 of a KID'S sized fries vs several stalks of celery. Which would make you FULLER and HEALTHIER? If I could only eat 100 calories, I would pick celery. Why? Because it will fill me up, keep me full longer AND supply nutrients. What would the McPuke fries do? Leave me hungry, sick and disgusted. Now, replace these foods with ANY foods. 100 Calories of ice cream vs 100 calories of chicken, etc. The logic of this diet is UNDENIABLE. You can NOT eat ANYTHING on a 1200 calorie diet. You have to eat QUALITY food. Now, some of you will still argue "well I eat bacon and eggs every morning. All I need to do is run an extra 4 miles to burn off the bacon" My response, DON'T EAT THE FREAKIN' BACON!!!! hahahaha Replace it with egg whites!
Medically speaking. I have a few loved ones that underwent bariatric surgery. They had a gastric bypass. Guess how many calories they ate for two months post op? Not even 300 calories a day. Geeee, they lost weight dramatically, hair didn't fall out, nails didn't get brittle. Because like smart people, they took vitamins.... For the first few years, guess what their calorie intake went up to UNDER DOCTOR'S ORDERS????? 800-1000. Yes, flamers will argue "well, they were under doctor's care" No they weren't. They were given a post op diet and weighed in once a year for three years. They lost 200 pounds, look great and have kept it off. So please, random gym rat or upset yo-yo dieter, before you begin to tell people that it is impossible, unhealthy, or leads to eating disorders, think about the basis of this diet. I will believe 1000's of bariatric doctors before I believe some poster that likes to think they know everything because they lost 30 pounds by going to the gym.
Those of you who made it this far into this thread and think 1200 calories is for you, try it. See what happens. If you begin to exhibit unhealthy symptoms, then stop. But don't believe everything you see on here. I have yet to have a problem other than needing to constantly update my wardrobe.
Let the fighting begin.....
Its almost like you crave melodrama and see drama where there is none.
I've read through this thread and here is what I see people saying summed up:
No one is saying you cannot lose weight eating 1200 calories, of course you can. People are saying that if you eat only 1200 calories you will lose muscle in addition to fat (which you admit here has happened to you) and that it will be difficult to transition from such an unsustainable diet into maintenance (which at least at some level you seem to recognize since you have already shifted yourself off 1200 calories already).
Will you die eating only 1200 calories a day? No, not for a very long time. Is anyone here claiming you will die? No. Is it healthy? No, it really isn't. Not everyone sees the need to try to sprint to the finish line only to collapse in a heap. You seem to mock those who take it slow but honestly taking it slow is what allows you to keep all your muscle and easily transition to maintenance to keep the weight off. Not only that but the people "taking it slow" are typically losing 1-2 pounds a week so they are actually losing at about the same rate you are. To me that isn't a lack of willpower to force oneself to eat at a huge deficit, that is just someone being sensible.
I have no interest in "fighting" you or "trolling" you but I'm not sure anyone really (including yourself) believes that eating 1200 calories a day is sustainable or won't result in muscle loss which is basically the only point anyone here is making.
Here is the bottom line. The longer you stay at a huge caloric deficit the more muscle you will lose. Do with that as you will.0 -
I too am on a 1200 calorie diet. That was the amt that MFP suggested when I input that I wanted to lose 2lbs per week. Reading this is freaking me out, so I changed it to 1.5lbs per week. I'm 26 and 5'4...I have lost 26lbs in a little over 3 month and honestly have 40-50lbs to go to be at a healthy weight. I don't eat back my workout calories, except on the weekends. You guys are scaring me! I'd rather be fat fat than skinny fat! ew.
Precisely what they are trying to do. I can not advise you one way or another (although hundreds here will be more than willing to tell you what you "need" based on websites). I use 1200 calories for a fast weight loss then gradually build it back up to increase my BMR so I can sustain once I hit my goal weight.0 -
Funny, I don't do anything different in my day to eat bacon...your logic is flawed. I do supply my body with nutrients, I also supply it enough calories to make all my vital organs function properly. I can be certain of that because well, I don't pick the bare minimum caloric amount to lose on. But it's okay, because you feel fine now.
For someone who just wanted to share your plethora of knowledge you sure came in with a fighting stance. "Hear, hear you gym rats and yo yo dieters. Here my awesomeness." If you took the time to read all the responses your dribble has acquired you, you should hold the back patting. Congratz on glorifying a bare minimum caloric amount for the masses. Congratz on encouraging young girls who could lose well and healthily on 1600 calories to not want to eat over 500 calories before dinner and to demonize every food that comes into view.
1200 MAY be okay for some. BUT it is not okay for most. When you get into the mentality of eating as little as you possibly can for a feeble scale weight goal you fall prey to the possibility of disordered eating. I'm not saying everyone will but restrictive eating leads to restrictive thinking. You're kind of there. McDonald's fries sure as hell taste better than celery. Am I going to say you should eat nothing but McDonald's? No. That's a strawman argument. There's a middle ground called moderation. When you see foods in terms of nutrient density and not trivial words like good or bad, it eliminates that overly restrictive state of mind. Most people diet to their goal, then relapse. What do you think fixes that? Moderate paced weight loss, learning sustainable habits and patience. Everyone can find that place their comfortable with but your arrogance is astounding.
"I'm better than everyone because I can starve myself" *chest puffed out* mentality.0 -
In my opinion why some people say 1200 calorie diets don't "work" and others say 1200 calorie diets do "work" is that their definitions of "work" are different.
The 1200 calorie diet group's definition of "work" is rapid weight loss.
The anti-1200 calorie diet group's definition of "work" is to get fit and healthier.0 -
Wow. I only could get through the third page or so before I felt bad for many of the respondents. It is amazing how everyone here knows everything and will be the first to tell you such. People "speaking from experience" on how "horrible" the diet is need to remember, different people require different diets. Just because this diet did not work for you does not mean it won't work for others. All of these scary stats about the diet make me laugh. That is like me telling someone "DON'T DRIVE! There are so many deaths from driving! You should only take a plane because it is safer! I know this because I drove once and I got hurt but I have never been hurt flying."
I am not a gym rat nor do I desire the "bulky, muscular body". I am still VERY strong but I would be lying to say I am not losing SOME muscle mass. However, I am not "Skinny fat" as many like to comment on.
Here are two points I would like you to think about. One is medically proven and the other is logically proven. Lets start with the logical first.
Logically speaking, you have a choice, 100 calories of McDonald's French Fries or 100 Calories of Celery. To put this in a visual comparison, think about 2/3 of a KID'S sized fries vs several stalks of celery. Which would make you FULLER and HEALTHIER? If I could only eat 100 calories, I would pick celery. Why? Because it will fill me up, keep me full longer AND supply nutrients. What would the McPuke fries do? Leave me hungry, sick and disgusted. Now, replace these foods with ANY foods. 100 Calories of ice cream vs 100 calories of chicken, etc. The logic of this diet is UNDENIABLE. You can NOT eat ANYTHING on a 1200 calorie diet. You have to eat QUALITY food. Now, some of you will still argue "well I eat bacon and eggs every morning. All I need to do is run an extra 4 miles to burn off the bacon" My response, DON'T EAT THE FREAKIN' BACON!!!! hahahaha Replace it with egg whites!
Medically speaking. I have a few loved ones that underwent bariatric surgery. They had a gastric bypass. Guess how many calories they ate for two months post op? Not even 300 calories a day. Geeee, they lost weight dramatically, hair didn't fall out, nails didn't get brittle. Because like smart people, they took vitamins.... For the first few years, guess what their calorie intake went up to UNDER DOCTOR'S ORDERS????? 800-1000. Yes, flamers will argue "well, they were under doctor's care" No they weren't. They were given a post op diet and weighed in once a year for three years. They lost 200 pounds, look great and have kept it off. So please, random gym rat or upset yo-yo dieter, before you begin to tell people that it is impossible, unhealthy, or leads to eating disorders, think about the basis of this diet. I will believe 1000's of bariatric doctors before I believe some poster that likes to think they know everything because they lost 30 pounds by going to the gym.
Those of you who made it this far into this thread and think 1200 calories is for you, try it. See what happens. If you begin to exhibit unhealthy symptoms, then stop. But don't believe everything you see on here. I have yet to have a problem other than needing to constantly update my wardrobe.
Let the fighting begin.....
Its almost like you crave melodrama and see drama where there is none.
I've read through this thread and here is what I see people saying summed up:
No one is saying you cannot lose weight eating 1200 calories, of course you can. People are saying that if you eat only 1200 calories you will lose muscle in addition to fat (which you admit here has happened to you) and that it will be difficult to transition from such an unsustainable diet into maintenance (which at least at some level you seem to recognize since you have already shifted yourself off 1200 calories already).
Will you die eating only 1200 calories a day? No, not for a very long time. Is anyone here claiming you will die? No. Is it healthy? No, it really isn't. Not everyone sees the need to try to sprint to the finish line only to collapse in a heap. You seem to mock those who take it slow but honestly taking it slow is what allows you to keep all your muscle and easily transition to maintenance to keep the weight off. Not only that but the people "taking it slow" are typically losing 1-2 pounds a week so they are actually losing at about the same rate you are. To me that isn't a lack of willpower to force oneself to eat at a huge deficit, that is just someone being sensible.
I have no interest in "fighting" you or "trolling" you but I'm not sure anyone really (including yourself) believes that eating 1200 calories a day is sustainable or won't result in muscle loss which is basically the only point anyone here is making.
Here is the bottom line. The longer you stay at a huge caloric deficit the more muscle you will lose. Do with that as you will.
Correct. I am trying to find out in my OP where I ever said that I was going on a 1200 Calorie diet for ever? I believe I said I started at 1200 to lose a lot fast then gradually increased my intake to slow the weight loss down. Sure, I can hit my goal weight in a month by eating less than 1000 calories a day. I chose to go low to lose a lot fast for motivation and to jump start my fat burn. If I was to jump to 2000 calories for "maintenance" I would gain weight because my body adjusted to 1200. That is why a gradual increase works and works well.
The purpose of this post was to ensure those who are starting or new to the 1200 calorie diet know that it does work and you won't go into starvation mode and you won't jeopardize your success as long as you do it logically and safely and increase as needed. I no longer need to lose 3-5 pounds a week. I am happy with one pound. So what do I do? I increase my calories. Guess what will happen in 10 more pounds? I will increase my calories again....
Am I a register dietician? No. Did I take health and wellness in College, yep. Was I involved with people who met with bariatric surgeons and mimicking their diet? Darn tootin'0 -
I currently eat a diet of 1290 a day, on MFPs recommendations for me losing a pound a week. Often, im a couple hundred below or over when i finish up. but, I'm also a 5'2 female losing 10lbs. So, while sometimes im a little hungry, depending on what i chose to eat for the day, usually, in listening to my body and drinking 8 glasses of water a day, im just fine.
I agree that 1200 is a bit low for a man, though. Like i said. Short female here. I feel like as a dude, i wouldn't even consider under 1500.0 -
The anti-1200 calorie diet group's definition of "work" is to get fit and healthier.
I love this quote. At one point, I weighed over 300 pounds, had sky high blood pressure, pre diabetic, knee injury was nagging due to weight. Yet, I went on the diet, blood pressure is stable, blood sugar controlled, knee feels great and I emotionally feel great... So your logic is flawed. I am healthier and fit, I just chose to do it my way and not yours. If I wanted abs of steel and an *kitten* that can snap wood, sure, I am doing the wrong thing. But if that is NOT what I want, I and others shouldn't be pigeoned holed.....0 -
I don't know, i mean I am told on here that in order to lose i have to eat 1200 and it works for me!0
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bump for fun reading later :smokin:0
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Wow. I only could get through the third page or so before I felt bad for many of the respondents. It is amazing how everyone here knows everything and will be the first to tell you such. People "speaking from experience" on how "horrible" the diet is need to remember, different people require different diets. Just because this diet did not work for you does not mean it won't work for others. All of these scary stats about the diet make me laugh. That is like me telling someone "DON'T DRIVE! There are so many deaths from driving! You should only take a plane because it is safer! I know this because I drove once and I got hurt but I have never been hurt flying."
I am not a gym rat nor do I desire the "bulky, muscular body". I am still VERY strong but I would be lying to say I am not losing SOME muscle mass. However, I am not "Skinny fat" as many like to comment on.
Here are two points I would like you to think about. One is medically proven and the other is logically proven. Lets start with the logical first.
Logically speaking, you have a choice, 100 calories of McDonald's French Fries or 100 Calories of Celery. To put this in a visual comparison, think about 2/3 of a KID'S sized fries vs several stalks of celery. Which would make you FULLER and HEALTHIER? If I could only eat 100 calories, I would pick celery. Why? Because it will fill me up, keep me full longer AND supply nutrients. What would the McPuke fries do? Leave me hungry, sick and disgusted. Now, replace these foods with ANY foods. 100 Calories of ice cream vs 100 calories of chicken, etc. The logic of this diet is UNDENIABLE. You can NOT eat ANYTHING on a 1200 calorie diet. You have to eat QUALITY food. Now, some of you will still argue "well I eat bacon and eggs every morning. All I need to do is run an extra 4 miles to burn off the bacon" My response, DON'T EAT THE FREAKIN' BACON!!!! hahahaha Replace it with egg whites!
Medically speaking. I have a few loved ones that underwent bariatric surgery. They had a gastric bypass. Guess how many calories they ate for two months post op? Not even 300 calories a day. Geeee, they lost weight dramatically, hair didn't fall out, nails didn't get brittle. Because like smart people, they took vitamins.... For the first few years, guess what their calorie intake went up to UNDER DOCTOR'S ORDERS????? 800-1000. Yes, flamers will argue "well, they were under doctor's care" No they weren't. They were given a post op diet and weighed in once a year for three years. They lost 200 pounds, look great and have kept it off. So please, random gym rat or upset yo-yo dieter, before you begin to tell people that it is impossible, unhealthy, or leads to eating disorders, think about the basis of this diet. I will believe 1000's of bariatric doctors before I believe some poster that likes to think they know everything because they lost 30 pounds by going to the gym.
Those of you who made it this far into this thread and think 1200 calories is for you, try it. See what happens. If you begin to exhibit unhealthy symptoms, then stop. But don't believe everything you see on here. I have yet to have a problem other than needing to constantly update my wardrobe.
Let the fighting begin.....
Your logic is wrong, why would someone have to eat either celery or fries, why not both. You are also starting to display an unhealthy view of certain foods
At the end of the day its difficult to take dietary advice from someone who once advised "Stop weighing yourself and just measure BMI."0 -
The anti-1200 calorie diet group's definition of "work" is to get fit and healthier.
I love this quote. At one point, I weighed over 300 pounds, had sky high blood pressure, pre diabetic, knee injury was nagging due to weight. Yet, I went on the diet, blood pressure is stable, blood sugar controlled, knee feels great and I emotionally feel great... So your logic is flawed. I am healthier and fit, I just chose to do it my way and not yours. If I wanted abs of steel and an *kitten* that can snap wood, sure, I am doing the wrong thing. But if that is NOT what I want, I and others shouldn't be pigeoned holed.....
Fair enough. I guess I don't understand the willingness to knowingly lose muscle to save a couple months in terms of scale weight loss. That said if that was your plan then alright. Suppose I can't say I mind what you do.0 -
I have been losing weight since November 2012 - and I still do not feel very comfortable promoting my own methods in this manner.
I think that at 5 months in and not yet at your goal it is maybe jumping the gun a bit to; so aggressively promote your 1200 calorie diet, get defensive when offered advice, and encourage others to follow your path.
Do you hit/track your micro and macro nutrients?0 -
Whatever works for u man0
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OP I think you are correct. It worked for me too. Eat smart. Quality not quantity.0
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Yeah.
I must admit. I've been on 1200 for the past few weeks - and I'm a 5"9 guy of 28 years.... I made the mistake of thinking "ooooh I can lose 2lbs a week" .... and thought it was fine.
Luckily for me, I started to read the message board, and now know better. So am upping my calories gradually.
Also have to admit I've done extreme low cal dieting before (when I didn't know any better) and ended up with a borederline eating disorder..... let me tell you... the result is NOT a good look! (although I was probably on way less than 1200 tbh)
You can't sustain it, eventually I cracked and went on a massive binge and put weight back on. Not all of it, I'm within healthy range, but I seem to have what they call "skinny-fat".
Now I'm determined to do it properly.
Although, I do kinda get it...... after doing 1200 the past few weeks, I have already adapted..... now that I've started to increase, I've gone up to 1580 cals. ....... its really difficult to eat the extra cals.... it seems like such a lot more food - and it is - unless you go for really unhealthy choices like processed / junk food!0 -
I think it is important to contextualize your success with 1,200 calories.
First off, you weighed 280 Pounds. That means you had an enormous amount of fat stores to supplement that 1,200 calories.
Remember each pound of fat is 3500 calories. Fat on your body is just reserve stores of energy. So for the person who assumes a 1,200 calorie diet with extra calories stored up, she has an advantage for success.
A person who has less than 15% body fat has a less chance of being successful due to a lack of fat store supplementation. The lack of nutrition will affect mood, physical ability etc. typically resulting in a lapse of discipline to endure the 1,200 calorie regiment.
Just my opinion.0 -
The OP compares ultra low cal diet to that of a bariatric patient. Gastric bypass patients have on average a 1 in 50 chance of dying within 30 days in real world situations. The best of surgeons lower it to 1 in 500. No, people get these surgeries because they have to or they will die anyway. My cousin had the surgery and had to be rushed to the hospital about a month after. She almost died. Jump ahead 5 years and she went from Morbidly obese to too skinny and back to obese.
I stand behind my "opinions" (that just happen to be backed by professionals as well).
The original post is full of troll.0 -
How are you only losing 1lb a week eating 1200 cals at your weight? Are you really sedentary or do you just eat back all your exercise cals. Curious because it seems like you'd lose more than that.0
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How are you only losing 1lb a week eating 1200 cals at your weight? Are you really sedentary or do you just eat back all your exercise cals. Curious because it seems like you'd lose more than that.
Surely even if you ate back your exercise calories, or were really sedentary, you would still lose more than that, if you genuinely eating 1200 cals0 -
I know I will be trolled and flamed for posting this message but I am sick and tired of everyones high horse mentality when it comes to calorie counts. 1200 calories, if done correctly, is more than sufficient.
I began my journey January 1, 2014. I just completed 5 months and have lost over 55 pounds. I went from 280 to 225 and I feel great. Average calorie count is 1050 with an initial goal of 1200. After a few months, I moved my goal to 1400 and now I am at 1600. Yes, if you plan on just eating a cheeseburger at 1000 calories for the day, your screwed and will harm yourself. But let me give you an idea of my meals.
Breakfast is high protein egg sandwich OR oatmeal and high fiber toast. Either one is about 300 calories. Lunch is a special K protein bar at 170 calories. Dinner is either chicken breast with rice (370 calories), Large Baked potato with veggies (about 500 calories) or an extra large salad (350 calories). You see, at the end of the day, I have ample protein and fiber, good source of fuel (Carbs) and come in under 1000 calories. This leaves me some wiggle room if I want a small (and smart) dessert, some fruit with my lunch, or anything else. You see, I picked HEALTHY, LOW CALORIE foods to fill me up.
I will repeat. 1200 calorie diets, eating garbage, will allow you to lose weight but you will not feel good. But 1200 calorie diets that are low calorie, high nutrient food is a great way to lose the weight and keep it off.
Someone here will complain about my use of a protein bar. Many argue they are candy bars on steroids. They are meal replacements, quite tasty and have good nutrients (fiber and protein being the main ones). Regardless, you can not argue with the results. This diet has allowed me to lose over 55 pounds in 21 weeks. Right now, I average a weight loss of 1.2 pounds a week!
So before you all chastise someone for asking about a 1200 calorie diet, troll someone who supports the 1200 calorie diet, or even worse, name call (eating disorder, stupid, unhealthy) those who use the diet, take a look in the mirror. Why do you hate the low calorie diet so much? I think if you are honest with yourself, you will realize that is comes down to will power. Doing 1200 calories is the hardest diet out there. You go to bed hungry for the first few weeks before your body adjusts. Many don't make it past the first few days. So although I applaud those of you who are eating better and losing 0.2 or 0.4 pounds a week because you think everyone needs to eat 2000 calories and just exercises the deficit off, I wish you would applaud those of us who have the will power to change and who are losing 1.5 to 2 pounds a week because we refuse to listen to those who say it can't be done....
Let the trolling and flaming begin....
I have very similar diet choices and the 1200 calorie diet is working for me as well. I fill up on smart choices and I rarely feel hungry in between meals.0 -
So in...
Okay OP..you are a 29 year old man eating less than 1200 calories of course you are losing weight but you are also losing fat and muscle...congrats to you.
In the long term you will notice the following as well...
Low energy
Lethargy
brittle nails and hair
Hunger cues will diminish
Your metabolism is going to slow eventually too
You will do damage to your heart and muscles
You will not be able to exercise much
And then...you will break...you will eat a wad of food
Long term you become nutrient deficient, your metabolism will adapt and make it hard to lose weight, your bones will become brittle due to lack of muscle...
But hey you lost weight...good on you.
As for the will power...naw...my goal is to be healthy and happy not weak, lethargic, unhealthy and skinny with no muscle mass...
Self control means eating as much as I can while I still lose weight not as little as possible as a form of self punishment for gaining weight.
There is no way as a man at 1200 calories you are getting in adequate nutrition...1200 is the bare min for a woman ...
But hey do what works for you...flay yourself as much as you want, don't learn to eat all food in moderation and when you come off this 1200 calorie a day diet and go back to "normal" and gain your weight back because you didn't learn moderation in all foods only self deprevation you will understand why there are those of us who say no to 1200...
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I think it is important to contextualize your success with 1,200 calories.
First off, you weighed 280 Pounds. That means you had an enormous amount of fat stores to supplement that 1,200 calories.
Remember each pound of fat is 3500 calories. Fat on your body is just reserve stores of energy. So for the person who assumes a 1,200 calorie diet with extra calories stored up, she has an advantage for success.
A person who has less than 15% body fat has a less chance of being successful due to a lack of fat store supplementation. The lack of nutrition will affect mood, physical ability etc. typically resulting in a lapse of discipline to endure the 1,200 calorie regiment.
Just my opinion.
You, my friend, are 100% right!
I want to use your example of the 15% body fat. This diet I am on it for the morbidly obese like I was. I had over 60% body fat. I am now down to 30%! Many of the nay-sayers to my post, if their photos are accurate, have no need to be on a diet other than to eat back exercise calories. Meaning, they look to be at a healthy weight and stature. Someone who is at a healthy weight (I saw someone on here weighing 117 pounds wanting to get to 107!!!!), should avoid the 1200 calorie diet because they WILL have issues (hair, nails, eating disorder, etc.) However, those of us who were raised making bad eating choices (McDonald's we served almost nightly growing up, it was easy, fast and cheap), the diet works because, like you said, our calorie use stays the same but instead of fueling the metabolism with food, we fuel it with our fat cells. Someone with minimal fat (less than 25%) would probably do severe harm on this diet but if you are above 40% like I was, jump start the diet with this and gradually increase to a maintenance level. Also, QUALITY over quantity.0 -
I think it is important to contextualize your success with 1,200 calories.
First off, you weighed 280 Pounds. That means you had an enormous amount of fat stores to supplement that 1,200 calories.
Remember each pound of fat is 3500 calories. Fat on your body is just reserve stores of energy. So for the person who assumes a 1,200 calorie diet with extra calories stored up, she has an advantage for success.
A person who has less than 15% body fat has a less chance of being successful due to a lack of fat store supplementation. The lack of nutrition will affect mood, physical ability etc. typically resulting in a lapse of discipline to endure the 1,200 calorie regiment.
Just my opinion.
You, my friend, are 100% right!
I want to use your example of the 15% body fat. This diet I am on it for the morbidly obese like I was. I had over 60% body fat. I am now down to 30%! Many of the nay-sayers to my post, if their photos are accurate, have no need to be on a diet other than to eat back exercise calories. Meaning, they look to be at a healthy weight and stature. Someone who is at a healthy weight (I saw someone on here weighing 117 pounds wanting to get to 107!!!!), should avoid the 1200 calorie diet because they WILL have issues (hair, nails, eating disorder, etc.) However, those of us who were raised making bad eating choices (McDonald's we served almost nightly growing up, it was easy, fast and cheap), the diet works because, like you said, our calorie use stays the same but instead of fueling the metabolism with food, we fuel it with our fat cells. Someone with minimal fat (less than 25%) would probably do severe harm on this diet but if you are above 40% like I was, jump start the diet with this and gradually increase to a maintenance level. Also, QUALITY over quantity.
Deteriorating muscle mass says what's up.0 -
i saw this thread last week.... are still people still posting in it? haha0
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I have glanced at most of the responses and please do not take my lack of response to the negative people as me backing down. I simply can not argue with those who are closed minded. One thing about me personally is I am very analytical. I analyze and research EVERYTHING. I would not jump into a 1200 calorie diet (remember, started at 1200 and have increased a few hundred calories monthly), without making sure it was safe and sane.
Sadly, I have seen several response from those who started a low calorie diet, read all the fear mongering, and back away. They are now taking the slow route. I am probably foolish but the way mind works (like millions of others) is if I do not see results, I will not stick to it. So going so slow where I might lose or gain a half pound weekly and an inch of waist every 3 or 4 months would not allow me to stick the diet out. Trust me, I have tried. If it has worked for you, congrats. You have my respect.
But for me, I am sticking with healthy choices, fighting the urges to go backwards because I lose an inch or so on my guy at least monthly, if not faster. I drop pounds weekly and I feel better than ever!0 -
I have glanced at most of the responses and please do not take my lack of response to the negative people as me backing down. I simply can not argue with those who are closed minded. One thing about me personally is I am very analytical. I analyze and research EVERYTHING. I would not jump into a 1200 calorie diet (remember, started at 1200 and have increased a few hundred calories monthly), without making sure it was safe and sane.
Sadly, I have seen several response from those who started a low calorie diet, read all the fear mongering, and back away. They are now taking the slow route. I am probably foolish but the way mind works (like millions of others) is if I do not see results, I will not stick to it. So going so slow where I might lose or gain a half pound weekly and an inch of waist every 3 or 4 months would not allow me to stick the diet out. Trust me, I have tried. If it has worked for you, congrats. You have my respect.
But for me, I am sticking with healthy choices, fighting the urges to go backwards because I lose an inch or so on my guy at least monthly, if not faster. I drop pounds weekly and I feel better than ever!
And ignoring the issue of preserving LBM is somehow progressive?0 -
Congrats to you if you are reaching your goals, regardless of how you are doing it (Gym, low calorie, combination, etc.). Just please stop the fear mongering. It ranks up their with the Republicans claiming there will be death panels with Obamacare!
Let the political tirades begin....
And now I KNOW you're a troll.0 -
Congratulations on your weight loss.
I'm not going to troll or flame you at all.
My personal experience was just different. I ate 2000-2200 calories a day, and still lost an average of 1.4 lbs per week. (and I was a 39 year old woman at the time... I hit my goal in 2012 and have been maintaining for 2+ years now) I don't think 1,2000 calories would ever have been enough to fuel my personal energy/nutritional needs. It's not really a matter of willpower.
I did very low calorie diets in my twenties, and they actually did have permanent negative health consequences for me. And, I'm guessing an 900-1000 calorie diet for a 22 year old woman is pretty comparable to a 29 year old man eating 1200 - based on size/nutritional needs. But, if you feel good about your diet, carry on!
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So in...
Okay OP..you are a 29 year old man eating less than 1200 calories of course you are losing weight but you are also losing fat and muscle...congrats to you.
In the long term you will notice the following as well...
Low energy
Lethargy
brittle nails and hair
Hunger cues will diminish
Your metabolism is going to slow eventually too
You will do damage to your heart and muscles
You will not be able to exercise much
And then...you will break...you will eat a wad of food
Long term you become nutrient deficient, your metabolism will adapt and make it hard to lose weight, your bones will become brittle due to lack of muscle...
But hey you lost weight...good on you.
As for the will power...naw...my goal is to be healthy and happy not weak, lethargic, unhealthy and skinny with no muscle mass...
Self control means eating as much as I can while I still lose weight not as little as possible as a form of self punishment for gaining weight.
There is no way as a man at 1200 calories you are getting in adequate nutrition...1200 is the bare min for a woman ...
But hey do what works for you...flay yourself as much as you want, don't learn to eat all food in moderation and when you come off this 1200 calorie a day diet and go back to "normal" and gain your weight back because you didn't learn moderation in all foods only self deprevation you will understand why there are those of us who say no to 1200...
This^ I lost a good bit when I had excess to spare. As I have gotten down closer to my goal, my body is resistant to losing weight. I have increased my calorie goal and yet my body is still maintaining within 1-2 lbs of my current weight.0
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