This study is going to change how I eat!

MKEgal
MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
in Food and Nutrition
I was watching Dr. Oz today, and he mentioned a study that I wanted to read more about, so I went browsing PubMed.
Haven't found it yet, but I did find several other interesting ones, which I've put into a blog post.
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/MKEgal/view/2014-06-10-some-studies-about-weight-loss-667818

>>>> This one study, however, is going to change how I eat. <<<<

This study compared eating a small breakfast, medium lunch, and large dinner, [200, 500, 700 cal]
with eating a large breakfast, medium lunch, and small dinner [700, 500, 200 cal].
All got 1400 calories, everything else was the same.

"The [large breakfast] group showed greater weight loss and waist circumference reduction ...
[F]asting glucose, insulin [&] triglycerides ... decreased significantly to a greater extent in the [large breakfast] group."

In addition, hunger was less and satiety was greater.

Here's the summary / abstract, which has citation info if you want to read more.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23512957
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  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    So you have metabolic syndrome? If not, the study doesn't apply to you.
  • lask722
    lask722 Posts: 6 Member
    That’s great, but dinner is when my husband and I come together to laugh, open a bottle of wine, get the grill going and talk about our day. The sun is setting, the neighborhood is buzzing, and the dog gets some play time while dinner’s in the works. I love choosing recipes, planning meals, and trying out new cooking techniques. Maybe we’ll throw some oysters on the grill. Maybe I’ll whip up a batch of guacamole while we’re waiting for the flank steak to cook. Maybe I’ll experiment with a new cocktail. All doable with a 700-900 calorie spending limit, but 200? (Oh, but do get those 700 calories in at the suckiest part of the day, when you’re bleary-eyed and rushing out the door to go to work.)
    Just No. Sorry Dr. Oz. I doubt your credibility to begin with, but putting that aside, abiding by this study sounds about as joyless and miserable as having a granola bar for dinner. Forever. Which is pretty much the idea.
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
    Meal timing is personal preference and it would be beneficial to stop listening to Dr. Oz.
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    I was watching Dr. Oz today

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  • royaldrea
    royaldrea Posts: 259 Member
    Is the difference in weight loss significant enough to justify the misery of eating 200 calorie dinners for an extended period of time?
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    Meal timing is personal preference and it would be beneficial to stop listening to Dr. Oz.

    This...

    Also...Dr. Oz is a snake oil salesmen. Anything associated with him you should run in the opposite direction.
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  • SugaryLynx
    SugaryLynx Posts: 2,640 Member
    I stopped after Dr. Oz.
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member
    OP, feel free to give it a try. It works well for some people. But not necessarily for everyone. (I don't usually do well with this kind of plan; if I eat a small breakfast and small to moderate lunch, with room for a couple of snacks, I tend to not want to overeat through the day, but if I eat a larger breakfast, I sometimes have a huge appetite all day)
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Funny, when I eat breakfast in the a.m., I end up eating more throughout the day than if I delay breakfast or skip it. Even if it's nothing but protein, it seems to set me up for blood sugar drops all day. If I wait til around noon, I stay even and satisfied most of the day.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    Thank you for sharing the study with us OP. I have read a few studies that conclude that meal timing is irrelevent for weight loss. I will read yours as well.
  • Velum_cado
    Velum_cado Posts: 1,608 Member
    I stopped reading at "Dr. Oz"
  • NerdyAdventurer
    NerdyAdventurer Posts: 166 Member
    I was watching Dr. Oz today

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    Pretty much.

    The guy is a quack. Every week he claims to have found the lost berry that makes you slim and fit as soon as you eat it.
  • emtjmac
    emtjmac Posts: 1,320 Member
    You lost me at, "I was watching Dr. Oz today".
  • emdeesea
    emdeesea Posts: 1,823 Member
    I don't see anything wrong with the study itself and might be workable if you can get past the low calorie dinners, which might not be sustainable for a lot of people who connect with their family and friends over dinner.

    But yeah, this study was for women with metabolic syndrome and so might not work in the same way for you. But ultimately won't hurt to try it.

    (That being said, Dr. Oz is indeed a hack. Sorry. Just had to add that in there.)
  • merisaOct3
    merisaOct3 Posts: 197 Member
    That’s great, but dinner is when my husband and I come together to laugh, open a bottle of wine, get the grill going and talk about our day. The sun is setting, the neighborhood is buzzing, and the dog gets some play time while dinner’s in the works. I love choosing recipes, planning meals, and trying out new cooking techniques. Maybe we’ll throw some oysters on the grill. Maybe I’ll whip up a batch of guacamole while we’re waiting for the flank steak to cook. Maybe I’ll experiment with a new cocktail. All doable with a 700-900 calorie spending limit, but 200? (Oh, but do get those 700 calories in at the suckiest part of the day, when you’re bleary-eyed and rushing out the door to go to work.)
    Just No. Sorry Dr. Oz. I doubt your credibility to begin with, but putting that aside, abiding by this study sounds about as joyless and miserable as having a granola bar for dinner. Forever. Which is pretty much the idea.

    <3<3<3<3 I love this so hard.
  • mfp2014mfp
    mfp2014mfp Posts: 689 Member
    If it works for you great, I personally will always have a big dinner because if I dont I wake up at 2am and eat everything :laugh:
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Bunkum

    http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/lipid-hypothesis/big-breakfast-bunkum/
  • _HeartsOnFire_
    _HeartsOnFire_ Posts: 5,304 Member
    These links will help you more than Dr. Oz ever would...

    Read these:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here?hl=so+you're+new+here

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/974888-in-place-of-a-road-map-2k13

    TL:DR the link right above this one then ->http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/975025-in-place-of-a-road-map-short-n-sweet

    If you have 75+ lbs to lose 2 lbs/week is ideal
    If you have 40-75 lbs to lose 1.5 lbs/week is ideal
    If you have 25-40 lbs to lose 1 lbs/week is ideal
    If you have 15 -25 lbs to lose 0.5 to 1.0 lbs/week is ideal
    If you have less than 15 lbs to lose 0.5 lbs/week is ideal

    Want to lift heavy things?
    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/

    Stronglifts Summary
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/560459-stronglifts-5x5-summary

    Stronglifts Womens Group
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/4601-stronglifts-5x5-for-women


    Also, cute cat.

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  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    In...

    ...for teeny tiny dinners.
  • highstandards
    highstandards Posts: 10
    This interesting study says quite the opposite, if you're lean.

    http://suppversity.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/lean-vs-overweight-post-breakfast.html

    "Lean vs. Overweight: Post-Breakfast-Skipping Binge is Overweight-Specific. Lean Subjects Reduce Both Energy (-26%) & Sugar Intake (14%), When They Skip Breakfast"

    Also, we're supposed to be more insulin resistant in the morning, so I guess it also depends on what people eat for breakfast.
  • ryry_
    ryry_ Posts: 4,966 Member
    I stopped reading at "I stopped reading at Dr. Oz"
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    I was watching Dr. Oz today

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    Pretty much this.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    "Hey hon, what's for dinner?"

    "A cup of cottage cheese, dear"

    "Ok, what else?"

    "That's it"

    "dafuq"
  • SIMAKRA
    SIMAKRA Posts: 97 Member
    Funny, when I eat breakfast in the a.m., I end up eating more throughout the day than if I delay breakfast or skip it. Even if it's nothing but protein, it seems to set me up for blood sugar drops all day. If I wait til around noon, I stay even and satisfied most of the day.
  • SIMAKRA
    SIMAKRA Posts: 97 Member
    Funny, when I eat breakfast in the a.m., I end up eating more throughout the day than if I delay breakfast or skip it. Even if it's nothing but protein, it seems to set me up for blood sugar drops all day. If I wait til around noon, I stay even and satisfied most of the day.


    Same here lol
  • paulawatkins1974
    paulawatkins1974 Posts: 720 Member
    In...

    ...for teeny tiny dinners.
    They let you back in! Yay. I missed your funny rebutals LOL
  • paulawatkins1974
    paulawatkins1974 Posts: 720 Member
    "Hey hon, what's for dinner?"

    "A cup of cottage cheese, dear"

    "Ok, what else?"

    "That's it"

    "dafuq"
    Hahahaha!!
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    You lost me at Dr. Oz.
  • JGonzo82
    JGonzo82 Posts: 167 Member
    I stopped after Dr. Oz.

    Amen.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    In all fairness, the OP did not say this study came from Dr. Oz, only that she found it while searching for something else that she saw on Dr. Oz. For all we know, the study is completely unrelated to the anecdote which caused the OP to stumble upon it.

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