Hard to be "good" anymore

I'm familiar with that, I made fries taste "bad"
Having a hard time with sweets tho

Most of the stuff I'm talking about tastes like desserts though. Mix protein powder with fat free greek yogurt and top with lite whipped cream = tastes like chocolate mousse. I make protein cakes and stuff all the time too. Going to attempt a healthy cheesecake either tonight or tomorrow too.

OP keep in mind that everybody's definition of "moderation" is not the same. Be real with yourself and do what actually works for you.

I am not a "2 oreos a night" guy. People who brag that they have single-servings of their favorite treats everyday are living on Mars as far as I'm concerned. If I'm going to have ice cream, or oreos, I've gotten to the point of giving myself the freedom to eat as much as I want, without any guilt, shame, or condemnation. Then once I'm finished I move on. It means having a pack of oreos every once in awhile instead of a single serving several times a week. But it works for me. The "half a cup of ice cream a night" ain't cutting it for me, and I'd be a fool to waste my time trying to acclimate to other people's definition of "moderation".

It took me a very, very long time to get to this point though.

Honestly, I think you need to change your mindset about it all. "Being good"; "bad foods", "cheating"... imo this is what is sabotaging your efforts. Try not to think in such black & white, all or nothing terms. And, when I say "try", I mean that you need to learn how to think differently, and it takes practice. You have a classic dieter's mentality where you are oscillating between being "good" and "naughty", or "on the wagon" and "off the wagon".

Foods aren't inherently "bad"; food is food. Some food has more calcium than others, some has more fibre, some is more energy dense... it's about finding a way to balance your intake so that you're giving your body the nutrients it needs, along with the right amount of energy, and at the same time, you are able to enjoy the food you eat. You're not "bad" for eating food that you enjoy. You're just very normal.

I want to add... It feels so good to binge, it gives me this sort of satisfaction, but it's mixed with guilt...

This is also very normal. You need to find out what psychological needs you're meeting by binging. For some people it's about feeling the freedom or empowerment of eating what you want to eat, a kind of "F you" to the part of your brain that is saying you can only eat x, y and z. Some people feel like they're in control when they restrict their eating, some feel in control when they eat what they want to eat, in whatever quantities they choose. If you can pin down why the binge eating feels good, that can help you change it.

A lot of people feel that pull to rebel against a diet - any diet where you're restricting yourself at all. It's very common for people to start cutting calories, or restricting certain food items, and immediately wanting to eat more, or to eat the forbidden fruit. This is why being overly restrictive doesn't work, particularly for people who already have an unhealthy relationship with food. There are no easy answers when you struggle with food as much as you clearly do, but it's key to try to let go of the black & white thinking, to forgive yourself when you do overeat, and to try to build a lifestyle that feels as little as possible like you're "on a diet". If you constantly feel like you're denying yourself, punishing yourself even (which is what it sounds like) then it's not going to be a lifestyle you can sustain for years.

passion is more powerful than cravings


you dont want the loss bad enough

passion is more powerful than cravings


you dont want the loss bad enough

Disordered eating patterns tend to be a bit more complicated than just not wanting it enough.

The hardest thing to learn is moderation of foods that we used to binge on.
The most important thing to learn is moderation of foods we used to binge on.

Everything about this process is a choice. It was easy for me to make excuses for way too many years. Time wasted. Make up your mind what you want and then work hard to get it. You will not be perfect. You will have bad minutes - they do not have to turn into hours or days.

Learning the lesson of moderation is the ONLY way to be successful in the long run. Good luck in your choices.

I log my binges when I have them. I log the alcohol I drink when I have it. And you have to be 100% honest with it.
I struggle with binge eating and I have - my whole life. But logging it helps me see how many calories I am actually consuming - and before anyone jumps down my throat saying - it isn't about calories it is about macros - I don't know what that is - so it is a foreign language to me.

But at the same time - if I want ice cream - i have ice cream. If i want peanut butter and a piece of chocolate - I have it. I don't let my body go without (Except chips - i love chips so much - I used to eat an entire bag or 2 in one sitting).

I am finding myself slacking a little bit (especially on alcohol. I LOVE beer) now that I've lost this much - but you just have to keep reminding yourself - that the battle isn't over yet.

I'm familiar with that, I made fries taste "bad"
Having a hard time with sweets tho

Most of the stuff I'm talking about tastes like desserts though. Mix protein powder with fat free greek yogurt and top with lite whipped cream = tastes like chocolate mousse. I make protein cakes and stuff all the time too. Going to attempt a healthy cheesecake either tonight or tomorrow too.

healthy cheesecake?? I'm adding you too!

Yes, I agree with this poster. For "chips", slice veggies very thin, a light spray coating of olive oil, a little salt, and in a dehydrator or oven, and you can make no guilt "veggie chips". Gives you the crunch and salt of chips without the calories. Lets face it, real chips really don't have much taste other than the salt and crunch.....so replace it with something else. There are a lot of "tricks" on the internet, on how to replace bad for good...do some research on how to replace the things you are eating for better, no guilt versions.

Once you learn to make 'good' things taste like 'bad' things it becomes way easier. For example, this morning I made red velvet pancakes. Sounds kind of bad right? But it wasn't bad at all, I use a high protein organic pancake mix, add in red velvet flavored protein powder, an egg, and top it with calorie free pancake syrup. Was very GOOD in every way.

There's lots of good things you can make that taste really awesome that are actually good for you. Once I learned to do that, it's been pretty easy to lose weight and easy to maintain because I don't crave anything. I just make very tasty alternatives to junk.

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oh this is awesome. I LOVE RED VELVET!!! What kind of protein do you use? I have the problem that I am lactose intolerant & most whey isolate protein powders REALLY mess with my stomach and I'm sick the rest of the day.