The fat you eat is the fat you wear

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  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member
    Im my humble opinion... A diet without bacon is simply no way to live

    Yet, man cannot live on bacon alone. They also require macaroni pictures.

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  • UponThisRock
    UponThisRock Posts: 4,519 Member
    Do a little research on biochemistry and the metabolic pathways of the body for protein, fat and carbohydrates (and how too much of any one thing over a period of time, whether short or long, can be detrimental to the body and the metabolic system - even fruits and vegetables) and then come back try again.

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    SHOTS FIRED!!
  • BruteSquad
    BruteSquad Posts: 373 Member

    Cause Im wearing a Bacon Bikini...:bigsmile:

    Don't tease me....
  • greasygriddle_wechnage
    greasygriddle_wechnage Posts: 246 Member
    I'll take "Misunderstanding of Human Physiology" for $400.


    :laugh:
  • Zeromilediet
    Zeromilediet Posts: 787 Member
    The study that was referenced

    Gluteofemoral Adipose Tissue Plays a Major Role in Production of the Lipokine Palmitoleate in Humans. Diabetes. 2012 Apr 9

    http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/03/db11-1810.abstract

    Re you sure? In the newspaper article it specifically mentions the paper as being published in Physiological Reviews which means it was more likely this paper: http://physrev.physiology.org/content/92/1/157.short This paper

    The paper in Diabetes Journal you cite explored the relationship wherein lower body fat deposits (hips, thighs) are associated with reduced cardio disease and diabetes risk compared to abdominal fat ... and why that may be.
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
    Science is different in Ottawa
  • Zeromilediet
    Zeromilediet Posts: 787 Member
    Hummm well I must be the exception to the rule cause when I greatly upped my fat intake and decreased my carb increase I lost body fat.....

    Same here. Must be medical anomalies? My diet is at least 50% fat most days.
  • ZoeLifts
    ZoeLifts Posts: 10,347 Member
    Oh how i miss bacon

    You don't have to miss bacon!
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I know many of you think this statement is outdated and proven incorrect. Fat seems to be very popular these days and certainly one can lose weight eating plenty of fat if he/she cuts out enough other things to maintain a calorie deficit. Personally, I think consuming excess fat can lead to heart disease, cancer and diabetes. Certainly, how we define "excess" and what types of fat, play into the mix as well.

    Here is an interesting article on how fast the fat you eat is deposited directly to your waistline.

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/technology/hits+your+waistline+fast+study+says/6621179/story.html

    When it comes to heart disease your statement is outdated. I would refer you to these articles
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    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/fats-and-cholesterol/index.html
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/questions/healthy-fats/index.html

    For weight loss, it is important to consider fat since it has more calories per gram than carbohydrates or protein. But watching it doesn't mean cutting it out. Our bodies need dietary fat. When diets are compared the Mediterranean diet is most often shown as one of the healthiest and it uses a lot of olive oil. The Mediterranean pyramid has a section just for olive oil.
  • peinek
    peinek Posts: 6
    Oh how i miss bacon

    You don't have to miss bacon!

    I wont here in a few days
  • SinkTheBismarck
    SinkTheBismarck Posts: 133
    Fat is so good I am going to eat a pound of butter. Cos carbs make me fat. WHoooo Butter. Scofffff

    :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Top that butter with a layer of bacon, olive oil, nuts, and more bacon, please!
  • bashiera
    bashiera Posts: 140 Member
    Personally believing something doesn't make it scientific fact. I could believe my cat Tom is the supreme God and overlord of our solar system, and we should worship this stray cat.

    Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    I agree. Tell me more about this First Evangelical Church of Tom the Cat.
    Let me expand your mind with the gospel of our Supreme Overload Tom for just three easy payments for 29.99. Cash, check, and all major credit cards accepted.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    The study that was referenced

    Gluteofemoral Adipose Tissue Plays a Major Role in Production of the Lipokine Palmitoleate in Humans. Diabetes. 2012 Apr 9

    http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/03/db11-1810.abstract

    Re you sure? In the newspaper article it specifically mentions the paper as being published in Physiological Reviews which means it was more likely this paper: http://physrev.physiology.org/content/92/1/157.short This paper

    The paper in Diabetes Journal you cite explored the relationship wherein lower body fat deposits (hips, thighs) are associated with reduced cardio disease and diabetes risk compared to abdominal fat ... and why that may be.

    I originally thought it was this one, but picked the latest one since that one was published in '10

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279526/?tool=pubmed

    The mention about the study in Physiological Reviews, seemed to be about something different then they were talking about above the mention
  • Zeromilediet
    Zeromilediet Posts: 787 Member
    The study that was referenced

    Gluteofemoral Adipose Tissue Plays a Major Role in Production of the Lipokine Palmitoleate in Humans. Diabetes. 2012 Apr 9

    http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/03/db11-1810.abstract

    Re you sure? In the newspaper article it specifically mentions the paper as being published in Physiological Reviews which means it was more likely this paper: http://physrev.physiology.org/content/92/1/157.short This paper

    The paper in Diabetes Journal you cite explored the relationship wherein lower body fat deposits (hips, thighs) are associated with reduced cardio disease and diabetes risk compared to abdominal fat ... and why that may be.

    I originally thought it was this one, but picked the latest one since that one was published in '10

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279526/?tool=pubmed

    The mention about the study in Physiological Reviews, seemed to be about something different then they were talking about above the mention

    Would be safe to say research & results (conclusions) turns up repeatedly, are recycled, nuances of approach reworked, etc. So confusing for general public to assess what all this means applied in everyday life. One day it's one thing is bad, next year it's not.
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
    The study that was referenced

    Gluteofemoral Adipose Tissue Plays a Major Role in Production of the Lipokine Palmitoleate in Humans. Diabetes. 2012 Apr 9

    http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/03/db11-1810.abstract

    Re you sure? In the newspaper article it specifically mentions the paper as being published in Physiological Reviews which means it was more likely this paper: http://physrev.physiology.org/content/92/1/157.short This paper

    The paper in Diabetes Journal you cite explored the relationship wherein lower body fat deposits (hips, thighs) are associated with reduced cardio disease and diabetes risk compared to abdominal fat ... and why that may be.

    I originally thought it was this one, but picked the latest one since that one was published in '10

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279526/?tool=pubmed

    The mention about the study in Physiological Reviews, seemed to be about something different then they were talking about above the mention

    Would be safe to say research & results (conclusions) turns up repeatedly, are recycled, nuances of approach reworked, etc. So confusing for general public to assess what all this means applied in everyday life. One day it's one thing is bad, next year it's not.

    True. But theories evolve and the new information slowly trickles down to the public. Most ordinary people who read the paper understand that all fats are not the same. That basic position has been known for easily 10 years.
  • Julesjhj
    Julesjhj Posts: 150 Member
    "My bacon brings all the boys to the yard" :bigsmile: .....lost 50+ pounds eating clean and raising fat to 50%.
  • Zeromilediet
    Zeromilediet Posts: 787 Member
    The study that was referenced

    Gluteofemoral Adipose Tissue Plays a Major Role in Production of the Lipokine Palmitoleate in Humans. Diabetes. 2012 Apr 9

    http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/03/db11-1810.abstract

    Re you sure? In the newspaper article it specifically mentions the paper as being published in Physiological Reviews which means it was more likely this paper: http://physrev.physiology.org/content/92/1/157.short This paper

    The paper in Diabetes Journal you cite explored the relationship wherein lower body fat deposits (hips, thighs) are associated with reduced cardio disease and diabetes risk compared to abdominal fat ... and why that may be.

    I originally thought it was this one, but picked the latest one since that one was published in '10

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279526/?tool=pubmed

    The mention about the study in Physiological Reviews, seemed to be about something different then they were talking about above the mention

    Would be safe to say research & results (conclusions) turns up repeatedly, are recycled, nuances of approach reworked, etc. So confusing for general public to assess what all this means applied in everyday life. One day it's one thing is bad, next year it's not.

    True. But theories evolve and the new information slowly trickles down to the public. Most ordinary people who read the paper understand that all fats are not the same. That basic position has been known for easily 10 years.

    I agree there may be some people understand all fats are not the same; however there's quite a few who believe fat is fat, especially if they're buying food based on the fat per cent on the nutrition label. They don't read the ingredients to see the kind of fat they're consuming. And, that can make all the difference in how the 'fat' is metabolized. What's more the "fat" referenced or used by researchers can vary widely, and specifics are skipped over when news of a study is reported to the public.

    Even the word 'fat' makes people recoil as if you were discussing rat poison :-)
  • mfpcopine
    mfpcopine Posts: 3,093 Member
    The study that was referenced

    Gluteofemoral Adipose Tissue Plays a Major Role in Production of the Lipokine Palmitoleate in Humans. Diabetes. 2012 Apr 9

    http://diabetes.diabetesjournals.org/content/early/2012/04/03/db11-1810.abstract

    Re you sure? In the newspaper article it specifically mentions the paper as being published in Physiological Reviews which means it was more likely this paper: http://physrev.physiology.org/content/92/1/157.short This paper

    The paper in Diabetes Journal you cite explored the relationship wherein lower body fat deposits (hips, thighs) are associated with reduced cardio disease and diabetes risk compared to abdominal fat ... and why that may be.

    I originally thought it was this one, but picked the latest one since that one was published in '10

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3279526/?tool=pubmed

    The mention about the study in Physiological Reviews, seemed to be about something different then they were talking about above the mention

    Would be safe to say research & results (conclusions) turns up repeatedly, are recycled, nuances of approach reworked, etc. So confusing for general public to assess what all this means applied in everyday life. One day it's one thing is bad, next year it's not.

    True. But theories evolve and the new information slowly trickles down to the public. Most ordinary people who read the paper understand that all fats are not the same. That basic position has been known for easily 10 years.

    I agree there may be some people understand all fats are not the same; however there's quite a few who believe fat is fat, especially if they're buying food based on the fat per cent on the nutrition label. They don't read the ingredients to see the kind of fat they're consuming. And, that can make all the difference in how the 'fat' is metabolized. What's more the "fat" referenced or used by researchers can vary widely, and specifics are skipped over when news of a study is reported to the public.

    Even the word 'fat' makes people recoil as if you were discussing rat poison :-)

    If you (using the impersonal "you") consider yourself to be serious about weight loss and health, you ought to know by now that there are different kinds of fats. If you're not bothering to educate yourself at least to that very basic level, I wonder how successful you will be. You are a nutritional illiterate.
  • nfc0220
    nfc0220 Posts: 2
    Maybe you should take this to the Primal/Paleo community where, love them or hate them, they have insanely ripped bodies by eating an abundance of fat.

    This article is so stupid i really can't be arsed to write any more about it.

    You're a goof.

    Most people on the Paleo Faileo diet are obese. The ones who are ripped have achieved that from being on a consistent caloric deficit. They may me lean but their health is in shambles, not unlike a lean cocaine abuser. Many, if not all, lean Paleo guys abuse steroids and caffeine. Their heart health is atrocious and they can't even run around the block. Just read some studies from Dr. Barnard or Dr. McDougall on what a high fat/low carb diet does for one's health, instead of going off of stimulant addicts on the interwebs.

    P.S.,

    u mad bro?
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,210 Member
    Maybe you should take this to the Primal/Paleo community where, love them or hate them, they have insanely ripped bodies by eating an abundance of fat.

    This article is so stupid i really can't be arsed to write any more about it.

    You're a goof.

    Most people on the Paleo Faileo diet are obese. The ones who are ripped have achieved that from being on a consistent caloric deficit. They may me lean but their health is in shambles, not unlike a lean cocaine abuser. Many, if not all, lean Paleo guys abuse steroids and caffeine. Their heart health is atrocious and they can't even run around the block. Just read some studies from Dr. Barnard or Dr. McDougall on what a high fat/low carb diet does for one's health, instead of going off of stimulant addicts on the interwebs.

    P.S.,

    u mad bro?

    This thread was posted over 2 years ago and no-one has posted in it since.

    You mad, Bro?

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  • beautifulwarrior18
    beautifulwarrior18 Posts: 914 Member
    Excess fat doesn't cause diabetes. Try again.
  • SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish
    SoLongAndThanksForAllTheFish Posts: 831 Member
    That's an odd myth to state you still believe in despite all the studies that show its wrong. Besides all the studies, I also know first hand its wrong: I've lost 60lbs over a year and a half with high fat, high protein. In fact I went 6 weeks purposefully having bacon, beer and chocolate every day and still lost weight and gained strength. The highest proportion of calories over that year and a half has consistently been from fat too: steaks, bacon, cheeses, butter, etc etc etc

    Nope, fat definitely does not go right to your waistline, it just doesn't happen, don't worry about it. If you eat a surplus of any calories, it might, if your body deposits it there.

    Ha, undead post caught me too I guess...
  • Meerataila
    Meerataila Posts: 1,885 Member
    My health was in no way a shambles on low carb. My conscience was, and my wallet was absolutely wrecked, but my health was much better, if for no other reason than I lost a lot of weight. I felt better than when I was trying to count calories while eating every type of sugary junkfood in the store while staying in a calorie deficit, too (I did not buy prepackaged Atkins snacks and meals and such).

    I think I can get the same results with plant based, take no hit to my conscience, and have slightly more money left over, because, like low carb, it is also free of twinkies and cookies. Or it is as long as I stay out of the chocolate section at Whole Foods and pretend I didn't hear that Oreos are vegan. We'll see. One week in, several pounds lost (some is water weight), feeling good now, and my appetite is manageable so far as long as I mostly stay out of the raisins. Damn you, raisins.

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