Does swimming in freezing water still burn calories??

dakotababy
dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
does swimming in cold water still burn *as many* calories as it would in warmer/normal water temperature in a lake? (as I believe it will be harder for my muscles to warm up, etc.)
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  • 115s
    115s Posts: 344 Member
    Yes.
  • MississippiMama87
    MississippiMama87 Posts: 204 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!
  • MississippiMama87
    MississippiMama87 Posts: 204 Member
    If this is even a real question...
  • dakotababy
    dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
    Of course this is a real question - though, the answer does not make a difference, because I am going to be doing this regardless. I just figured if muscles become cold that the calorie burn would decrease, and not increase.
  • ProfessorOwl
    ProfessorOwl Posts: 312 Member
    Of course it does.
  • ValerieMartini2Olives
    ValerieMartini2Olives Posts: 3,024 Member
    why would you think it wouldn't?
  • lizsmith1976
    lizsmith1976 Posts: 497 Member
    Just because I am curious based on your question of "does it even burn calories?", please tell me you have in fact trained for this by actually swimming?

    I say this because I do Ironman races which start with a 2.4 mile swim. I am hungry as hell after my training swims. It is significant exercise. I'm worried that for you to not know that means that you haven't been training, and I have to tell you, that sounds dangerous. Swimming long distances is not easy. Please tell me you have been training or please re-think the swim.
  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    Does it STILL burn calories?

    No, swimming in freezing water stopped burning calories back in 1997.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Just because I am curious based on your question of "does it even burn calories?", please tell me you have in fact trained for this by actually swimming?

    I say this because I do Ironman races which start with a 2.4 mile swim. I am hungry as hell after my training swims. It is significant exercise. I'm worried that for you to not know that means that you haven't been training, and I have to tell you, that sounds dangerous. Swimming long distances is not easy. Please tell me you have been training or please re-think the swim.

    This is what I'm saying...
  • dakotababy
    dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
    .
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    you'll burn twice as many calories if you sleep with your hands in warm water.
  • morgan_mfit
    morgan_mfit Posts: 58 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.

    I believe it's true because you're submerged in water. A person doesn't typically sweat when swimming regardless of water temp so they would burn more calories because their body has to work harder to regulate the body temperature if the water is colder. But don't swim in water that is FREEZING. You could get hypothermia!
  • LotusAsh
    LotusAsh Posts: 294 Member
    not sure if SRS
  • MississippiMama87
    MississippiMama87 Posts: 204 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.

    The exercising in cooler temps I'm actually not sure of. I just know that cold=burn.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.

    Sweating does not require ATP.
  • dakotababy
    dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.


    I believe it's true because you're submerged in water. A person doesn't typically sweat when swimming regardless of water temp so they would burn more calories because their body has to work harder to regulate the body temperature if the water is colder. But don't swim in water that is FREEZING. You could get hypothermia!

    I can say that the water is not freezing, as in - the ice is gone. The water is still going to be really cold, not "come in - the water is great!" I checked some charts about hypothermia, and I will not know the water temp. until I get there. Unfortunately the lake is 3 hours away. I can expect the water to be AT LEAST 4 degree's c. If not, I will not be able to do the swim due to the high chance of hypo.

    I was asking because I would think since the body is in cold water, it would not be able to warm up - thus not having as high of a calorie burn. Thought I would check, and ended up with a bunch of sarcastic responses (which hey - this is MFP.) I am very grateful for the decent and informative responses, the rest - luckily I am able to hit ignore on the users from here on out!

    Thanks again for your response, whatever that may be! :)
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.


    I believe it's true because you're submerged in water. A person doesn't typically sweat when swimming regardless of water temp so they would burn more calories because their body has to work harder to regulate the body temperature if the water is colder. But don't swim in water that is FREEZING. You could get hypothermia!

    I can say that the water is not freezing, as in - the ice is gone. The water is still going to be really cold, not "come in - the water is great!" I checked some charts about hypothermia, and I will not know the water temp. until I get there. Unfortunately the lake is 3 hours away. I can expect the water to be AT LEAST 4 degree's c. If not, I will not be able to do the swim due to the high chance of hypo.

    I was asking because I would think since the body is in cold water, it would not be able to warm up - thus not having as high of a calorie burn. Thought I would check, and ended up with a bunch of sarcastic responses (which hey - this is MFP.) I am very grateful for the decent and informative responses, the rest - luckily I am able to hit ignore on the users from here on out!

    Thanks again for your response, whatever that may be! :)

    The calorie burn from exercise is mainly from movement. And the body will shiver to try to maintain a constant temperature, increasing the calorie burn slightly.

    Your muscles "warming up" has little to do with that.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.


    I believe it's true because you're submerged in water. A person doesn't typically sweat when swimming regardless of water temp so they would burn more calories because their body has to work harder to regulate the body temperature if the water is colder. But don't swim in water that is FREEZING. You could get hypothermia!

    I can say that the water is not freezing, as in - the ice is gone. The water is still going to be really cold, not "come in - the water is great!" I checked some charts about hypothermia, and I will not know the water temp. until I get there. Unfortunately the lake is 3 hours away. I can expect the water to be AT LEAST 4 degree's c. If not, I will not be able to do the swim due to the high chance of hypo.

    I was asking because I would think since the body is in cold water, it would not be able to warm up - thus not having as high of a calorie burn. Thought I would check, and ended up with a bunch of sarcastic responses (which hey - this is MFP.) I am very grateful for the decent and informative responses, the rest - luckily I am able to hit ignore on the users from here on out!

    Thanks again for your response, whatever that may be! :)

    I wasn't being sarcastic...I'm genuinely concerned that you haven't trained for this. Most people who train for this kind of stuff are beyond worrying about calories burned and whatnot. This seems like a significant undertaking if you are undertrained/untrained.
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    not sure if SRS

    sadly it is.


    i-quit.gif
  • dakotababy
    dakotababy Posts: 2,407 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.


    I believe it's true because you're submerged in water. A person doesn't typically sweat when swimming regardless of water temp so they would burn more calories because their body has to work harder to regulate the body temperature if the water is colder. But don't swim in water that is FREEZING. You could get hypothermia!

    I can say that the water is not freezing, as in - the ice is gone. The water is still going to be really cold, not "come in - the water is great!" I checked some charts about hypothermia, and I will not know the water temp. until I get there. Unfortunately the lake is 3 hours away. I can expect the water to be AT LEAST 4 degree's c. If not, I will not be able to do the swim due to the high chance of hypo.

    I was asking because I would think since the body is in cold water, it would not be able to warm up - thus not having as high of a calorie burn. Thought I would check, and ended up with a bunch of sarcastic responses (which hey - this is MFP.) I am very grateful for the decent and informative responses, the rest - luckily I am able to hit ignore on the users from here on out!

    Thanks again for your response, whatever that may be! :)

    The calorie burn from exercise is mainly from movement. And the body will shiver to try to maintain a constant temperature, increasing the calorie burn slightly.

    Your muscles "warming up" has little to do with that.

    Oh thank you! I kind of thought that perhaps sweating and body heat contribute to the amount of calories burnt.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.


    I believe it's true because you're submerged in water. A person doesn't typically sweat when swimming regardless of water temp so they would burn more calories because their body has to work harder to regulate the body temperature if the water is colder. But don't swim in water that is FREEZING. You could get hypothermia!

    I can say that the water is not freezing, as in - the ice is gone. The water is still going to be really cold, not "come in - the water is great!" I checked some charts about hypothermia, and I will not know the water temp. until I get there. Unfortunately the lake is 3 hours away. I can expect the water to be AT LEAST 4 degree's c. If not, I will not be able to do the swim due to the high chance of hypo.

    I was asking because I would think since the body is in cold water, it would not be able to warm up - thus not having as high of a calorie burn. Thought I would check, and ended up with a bunch of sarcastic responses (which hey - this is MFP.) I am very grateful for the decent and informative responses, the rest - luckily I am able to hit ignore on the users from here on out!

    Thanks again for your response, whatever that may be! :)

    The calorie burn from exercise is mainly from movement. And the body will shiver to try to maintain a constant temperature, increasing the calorie burn slightly.

    Your muscles "warming up" has little to do with that.

    Oh thank you! I kind of thought that perhaps sweating and body heat contribute to the amount of calories burnt.

    Yeah, I used to think that as well. People tend to think lf external temperatures being "fat melting", which isnt the case. Burning calories requires movement of some sort to change chemical energy (ATP) into mechanical energy (movement). That is why the idea that you can "stoke your metabolism" is kind of silly.
  • ZenInTexas
    ZenInTexas Posts: 781 Member

    I can say that the water is not freezing, as in - the ice is gone. The water is still going to be really cold, not "come in - the water is great!" I checked some charts about hypothermia, and I will not know the water temp. until I get there. Unfortunately the lake is 3 hours away. I can expect the water to be AT LEAST 4 degree's c. If not, I will not be able to do the swim due to the high chance of hypo.

    I was asking because I would think since the body is in cold water, it would not be able to warm up - thus not having as high of a calorie burn. Thought I would check, and ended up with a bunch of sarcastic responses (which hey - this is MFP.) I am very grateful for the decent and informative responses, the rest - luckily I am able to hit ignore on the users from here on out!

    Thanks again for your response, whatever that may be! :)

    You expect the water to be around 4 degrees Celsius? I hope you are planning on wearing a wet suit?
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    How do you swim in a solid?
  • 115s
    115s Posts: 344 Member
    How do you swim in a solid?
    Belly flop around the top. Fish can't go blub, but it can try.
  • LC458
    LC458 Posts: 300 Member
    Does it STILL burn calories?

    No, swimming in freezing water stopped burning calories back in 1997.

    I died!!! :laugh:
  • Being cold, exercising in cooler temps, swimming in cool water actually burns more calories because of thermodynamics. We expend calories trying to warm the body up to base temperature. Shivering is one of the best ways to burn calories!

    The shivering thing is true- but I'm not sure if exercise in cold temperature burns more calories. Wouldn't the body have to work less hard by way of sweating in order to actually cool the body down? No need to shiver because the exercise warms up the body on its own. So- in my admittedly unresearched opinion- I believe it would burn less calories. But probably not a significant amount less since the main calorie consumption is from the muscles and not the sweat glands.


    I believe it's true because you're submerged in water. A person doesn't typically sweat when swimming regardless of water temp so they would burn more calories because their body has to work harder to regulate the body temperature if the water is colder. But don't swim in water that is FREEZING. You could get hypothermia!

    I can say that the water is not freezing, as in - the ice is gone. The water is still going to be really cold, not "come in - the water is great!" I checked some charts about hypothermia, and I will not know the water temp. until I get there. Unfortunately the lake is 3 hours away. I can expect the water to be AT LEAST 4 degree's c. If not, I will not be able to do the swim due to the high chance of hypo.

    I was asking because I would think since the body is in cold water, it would not be able to warm up - thus not having as high of a calorie burn. Thought I would check, and ended up with a bunch of sarcastic responses (which hey - this is MFP.) I am very grateful for the decent and informative responses, the rest - luckily I am able to hit ignore on the users from here on out!

    Thanks again for your response, whatever that may be! :)

    The calorie burn from exercise is mainly from movement. And the body will shiver to try to maintain a constant temperature, increasing the calorie burn slightly.

    Your muscles "warming up" has little to do with that.

    Oh thank you! I kind of thought that perhaps sweating and body heat contribute to the amount of calories burnt.

    Erm, I'm still not sure whether some of this is tongue in cheek or not. Assuming it is serious, first off, even 50 degree F water can suck the heat out of you relatively quickly, 4 degree C water is very dangerous, just being in it you would burn calories trying to maintain temperature...before you fail and become hypothermic. Muscles do not burn less calories if they are that much cooler, in fact possibly they burn slightly more doing the same work, since a cooler muscle is going to be less efficient, but it depends of course on how cool they get and change dependent on the temperature of the muscle. Yes sweating does burn calories but its negligible compared to moving under your own muscle power, and overall the body attempting to maintain temperature is going to cause an increased rather than reduced burn. The problem is as you cool, the body will start to shut down circulation to those muscles in an attempt to keep your brain and internal organs alive, causing them to become less and even less efficient, but later also less available energy to use to move until you cant really move your arms enough...
  • estaticaa
    estaticaa Posts: 67 Member
    Your body needs to maintain your cells at a healthy temperature, and it will spend extra energy when you're in a colder environment to do it, and therefore you will burn more calories.

    Also, I found this on the web: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17622298

    Among a few things, this popped out to me: "Studies over the last decade reported that swimming failure might primarily be related not to general hypothermia, but rather to muscle fatigue of the arms as a consequence of arm cooling. This is based on the general observation that swimming failure developed earlier than did systemic hypothermia, and can be related to low temperature of the arm muscles following swimming in cold water. All of the above studies conducted in water between 10 and 14 degrees C indicate that people can swim in cold water for a distance ranging between about 800 and 1500 m before being incapacitated by the cold. The average swimming duration for the studies was about 47 min before incapacitation, regardless of the swimming ability of the subjects."

    So, please be careful!
  • alathIN
    alathIN Posts: 142 Member
    . I am hungry as hell after my training swims.

    I was having bad munchie problems after swimming, too, which was making it more of a struggle to stay on plan.

    Then I read something helpful - apparently the cooling triggers a hunger response in most people. The recommendation was a hot shower or soak in the hot tub after swimming to take the edge of the post-swim munchies.

    Works like a charm for me.
  • bennettinfinity
    bennettinfinity Posts: 865 Member
    Does it STILL burn calories?

    No, swimming in freezing water stopped burning calories back in 1997.

    I died!!! :laugh:

    Then that means.... your reply was posted by a g-g-g-ghost!