Strength (tone) training consecutive days?

I have read you should not lift on consecutive days unless you are working different parts of your body. Does the same apply to simple low weight strength training?
I decided this week I really want to focus on toning for awhile however not giving up my cardio. To do this I have to do them back to back as my time is restricted the rest of the day. So this week I am using Turbo Jam - Turbo Sculpt with low weights followed by a 20 minute cardio session.
Should I only strength every other day, And full cardio on the other days? Or do you think I will be fine doing the strength/cardio mix daily. (Keep in mind I do not work out 7 days a week...during the summer it will be 4 days per week with a random cardio only when home life allows).

Thanks ~
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  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    why would you use Turbo jam and then do more cardio?

    That's cardio with a side of cardio.

    You definitely need rest - so figure out what works best for you-sometimes you need rest and you don't even realize it- so make sure you have some sort of structured rest day in your life.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
    Turbo Jam - Turbo Sculpt is not cardio. The rest of the disks are but not this one :)
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  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    split them out....

    I agree with the others.
    Strength for 3 - 4 days a week, cardio the other 4 - 3 days
  • SweeDecadence92
    SweeDecadence92 Posts: 218 Member
    weights being used to increase the intensity of cardio != strength training.

    I would suggest starting strength, strong lifts etc if your looking for a strength programme.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    Turbo Jam - Turbo Sculpt is not cardio. The rest of the disks are but not this one :)

    So I just watched a video of it because I was curious. Sorry, but that's not strength training.

    Do a real strength program, and do it every other day. Or do an upper/lower split so certain muscle groups get a rest while you work on the others.
  • Got_Discipline
    Got_Discipline Posts: 65 Member
    As long as you are working different muscle groups from DAY to DAY you will be fine. Do a work out split like Mon chest,tris, shoulders; Tues Back Bi's and abs. ; wednesday work your lower body. Thursday start over and Sunday rest.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
    Thank you ~
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    weights being used to increase the intensity of cardio != strength training.

    I would suggest starting strength, strong lifts etc if your looking for a strength programme.

    exactly.
  • DeadliftAddict
    DeadliftAddict Posts: 746 Member
    There is no such thing as "toning" when it comes to training. You can strength train, or lift weights, or whatever you want to call it. There is no "toning" lifts. Continue to lift heavy relative what you can lift and your program. Strive for progressive overload on each session of each set. During a caloric deficit at least strive to be able to lift the same weight you could when you started your deficit. Get an adequate amount of protein. This will allow you to keep the strength and muscle you may have gained while being in a surplus. Cutting down to a lower body fat percentage will give you the "toned" look you seek. This will be achieved by eating in a caloric deficit not the workout. If you want to do some cardio because you enjoy it, fine. You don't have to increase it. Just create a deficit through your nutrition.
  • Sam_I_Am77
    Sam_I_Am77 Posts: 2,093 Member
    You can do strength training but you need a pretty good head on your shoulders and some experience. Also, you can't be on a "cut' or "diet" and pull-off the recovery required.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
    weights being used to increase the intensity of cardio != strength training.

    I would suggest starting strength, strong lifts etc if your looking for a strength programme.

    exactly.

    Thank you both :)
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
    For the sake of argument and since my question was not really answered as everyone looked at it as either non strength or simply told me to lift / find another program...I appreciate the advice on choosing another program, I do however I enjoy my current program and that keeps me going. If I do not enjoy my workouts...they will not get done sadly. I have found early on...I either don't finish, start skipping or do not give it my all. When I get bored with this one...then I will look for something different.

    The workout Turbo Sculpt consists of using hand weights..I use 10 pounds for now worked my way up from 5. The workout has lunges, squats, military press etc. My heart rate does not get anywhere near as elevated as with my cardio nor for as long if at all. In this workout I am not out of breathe during any part of it. My muscles do burn and they get fatigued. The workout hits pretty much every part of your body and 95% of it..weights are in hand.

    (Just so every one knows..I have NO, NONE, ZIP desire to lift heavy..we have the equipment I just do not enjoy any part of it. Therefore if I am going to do this, it has to be something I enjoy. The equipment is also on a different floor - due to the time I work out as well as my job I can not do it. )

    With that being said - should I not do this every day? I do not want to hurt myself nor get a negative effect. I only have about 8 to 13 pounds to lose so I am focusing more on toning in the end. I do the actual cardio because I enjoy it. A deficit will help me lose weight...not tone up (not sure who said it would, not an expert in that..but I am positive you need resistance / strength for that)

    Thoughts?
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
    Never mind got my answer elsewhere ~ in case anyone else is curious this was the response I got in regards to Turbo Sculpt consecutive days.

    By strength training every day, you risk two things:

    First, you can actually lose muscle. Muscle develops while at rest, which is why you should never work the same area two days in a row. In the case of Turbo Sculpt, it's a total body routine so to get the results you want, you should alternate the days you use it. Say Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday. If you don't give the muscles time to rest you could lose muscle tissue.

    Second, you risk over training, which is a direct effect of what I explained above. Not even bodybuilders work out the same are two days in a row. You could hinder the results you want so badly.

    Cardio on the other hand is another matter. 5 and 6 days a week is OK. You will be burning fat and help you define all areas.

    Hope this helps
  • MagnumBurrito
    MagnumBurrito Posts: 1,070 Member
    Never mind got my answer elsewhere ~ in case anyone else is curious this was the response I got in regards to Turbo Sculpt consecutive days.

    By strength training every day, you risk two things:

    First, you can actually lose muscle. Muscle develops while at rest, which is why you should never work the same area two days in a row. In the case of Turbo Sculpt, it's a total body routine so to get the results you want, you should alternate the days you use it. Say Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday. If you don't give the muscles time to rest you could lose muscle tissue.

    Second, you risk over training, which is a direct effect of what I explained above. Not even bodybuilders work out the same are two days in a row. You could hinder the results you want so badly.

    Cardio on the other hand is another matter. 5 and 6 days a week is OK. You will be burning fat and help you define all areas.

    Hope this helps

    You likely will lose muscle and fat if you're doing that much cardio. Get tons of protein to negate some of the muscle loss with that much cardio. BCAAs will greatly help as well.

    You can lift the same muscles on consecutive days. I wouldn't lift heavy but you can definitely lift the same groups. If your joints get overused then I would take a few more rest days.

    The weights you're lifting, OP, are fine to lift everyday.
  • chasetwins
    chasetwins Posts: 702 Member
    Never mind got my answer elsewhere ~ in case anyone else is curious this was the response I got in regards to Turbo Sculpt consecutive days.

    By strength training every day, you risk two things:

    First, you can actually lose muscle. Muscle develops while at rest, which is why you should never work the same area two days in a row. In the case of Turbo Sculpt, it's a total body routine so to get the results you want, you should alternate the days you use it. Say Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday. If you don't give the muscles time to rest you could lose muscle tissue.

    Second, you risk over training, which is a direct effect of what I explained above. Not even bodybuilders work out the same are two days in a row. You could hinder the results you want so badly.

    Cardio on the other hand is another matter. 5 and 6 days a week is OK. You will be burning fat and help you define all areas.

    Hope this helps

    You likely will lose muscle and fat if you're doing that much cardio. Get tons of protein to negate some of the muscle loss with that much cardio. BCAAs will greatly help as well.

    You can lift the same muscles on consecutive days. I wouldn't lift heavy but you can definitely lift the same groups. If your joints get overused then I would take a few more rest days.

    The weights you're lifting, OP, are fine to lift everyday.

    LeadingMuscle - THANK YOU!! I do consume a protein shake half hour prior to the workout and eat half hour after with protein & veggies. I feel the burn during and awhile later but not to the point I can not move lol And the muscle loss was my concern with cardio every day hence why I wanted to make the strength more than cardio or at least even.

    Thanks again!!!
  • tomcornhole
    tomcornhole Posts: 1,084 Member
    I think you can do that sort of training non-stop for the rest of your life and not negatively impact much of anything. Seriously. I used to work on a farm and lift 50-100 bails of hay every day for weeks on end. Didn't need a rest day for that.

    Don't sweat the small stuff. And don't listen to the poo pooers. As long as you are doing something you enjoy, then good for you.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    no body is poo pooing the program.

    but if someone thinks they are doing weight training specifically with this video then they are sorely mistaken.

    That's the only issue.

    But yes- I agree. You could probably do this kind of work regularly and not have much negative impact.

    which well- that's kind of the point of a progressive loading program- if you don't need to take rest- then what are you training?
  • tomcornhole
    tomcornhole Posts: 1,084 Member
    no body is poo pooing the program.

    but if someone thinks they are doing weight training specifically with this video then they are sorely mistaken.

    That's the only issue.

    But yes- I agree. You could probably do this kind of work regularly and not have much negative impact.

    which well- that's kind of the point of a progressive loading program- if you don't need to take rest- then what are you training?

    It's the difference between training and exercising. I hate to exercise. I love to train.
  • SkimFlatWhite68
    SkimFlatWhite68 Posts: 1,254 Member
    For the sake of argument and since my question was not really answered as everyone looked at it as either non strength or simply told me to lift / find another program...I appreciate the advice on choosing another program, I do however I enjoy my current program and that keeps me going. If I do not enjoy my workouts...they will not get done sadly. I have found early on...I either don't finish, start skipping or do not give it my all. When I get bored with this one...then I will look for something different.

    The workout Turbo Sculpt consists of using hand weights..I use 10 pounds for now worked my way up from 5. The workout has lunges, squats, military press etc. My heart rate does not get anywhere near as elevated as with my cardio nor for as long if at all. In this workout I am not out of breathe during any part of it. My muscles do burn and they get fatigued. The workout hits pretty much every part of your body and 95% of it..weights are in hand.

    (Just so every one knows..I have NO, NONE, ZIP desire to lift heavy..we have the equipment I just do not enjoy any part of it. Therefore if I am going to do this, it has to be something I enjoy. The equipment is also on a different floor - due to the time I work out as well as my job I can not do it. )

    With that being said - should I not do this every day? I do not want to hurt myself nor get a negative effect. I only have about 8 to 13 pounds to lose so I am focusing more on toning in the end. I do the actual cardio because I enjoy it. A deficit will help me lose weight...not tone up (not sure who said it would, not an expert in that..but I am positive you need resistance / strength for that)

    Thoughts?

    Ok, cool.
    Do it every second day. You will need a day in between for recovery.
    Glad you enjoy this type of workout.
  • DeadliftAddict
    DeadliftAddict Posts: 746 Member
    no body is poo pooing the program.

    but if someone thinks they are doing weight training specifically with this video then they are sorely mistaken.

    That's the only issue.

    But yes- I agree. You could probably do this kind of work regularly and not have much negative impact.

    which well- that's kind of the point of a progressive loading program- if you don't need to take rest- then what are you training?

    ^This. If you look at what myself and others typed you will see that we ARE in fact trying to help. You may not like what we have to say or it didn't fit what you wanted to hear. This exercising that you are doing is far from going to be enough to where you will have issues if you did it daily. I wouldn't recommend you do it daily. As you've found out you should rest muscles for growth. However, most of us would also not call this strength training. It certainly isn't "toning" because there is no "toning" in strength training or weight lifting. "Toning" is a marketing word to get people to spend money when it comes to working out. Which is what I was pointing out in my post. In strength training you get nowhere without progressive overload. It is one of the most important factors and why a lot of people faithfully go to the gym or workout and don't see any change to their physique. I'm glad you have something you enjoy. Continue with it. At some point unless you're increasing the weight as often has possible you are just burning calories and not increasing strength (which is what strength training is). Just burning calories is basically cardio.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Never mind got my answer elsewhere ~ in case anyone else is curious this was the response I got in regards to Turbo Sculpt consecutive days.

    By strength training every day, you risk two things:

    First, you can actually lose muscle. Muscle develops while at rest, which is why you should never work the same area two days in a row. In the case of Turbo Sculpt, it's a total body routine so to get the results you want, you should alternate the days you use it. Say Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday. If you don't give the muscles time to rest you could lose muscle tissue.

    Second, you risk over training, which is a direct effect of what I explained above. Not even bodybuilders work out the same are two days in a row. You could hinder the results you want so badly.

    Cardio on the other hand is another matter. 5 and 6 days a week is OK. You will be burning fat and help you define all areas.

    Hope this helps

    You certainly can train the same body part back to back. Bulgarians and Russians have certain routines which are structured as such (You will have to cycle volume and intensity). However, for someone of your experience I wouldn't recommend it.
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    To give a simple response: Do your preferred program every other day. On the "off" days, I would do something mild that doesn't include the use of any weights, such as half an hour on the stationary bike at a moderate intensity, or going for a walk.

    I'm not going to argue with anyone about what is/isn't strength training. I personally feel like if you are using ten pound weights where you previously used five, then you are increasing your strength. The every other day thing is important so that muscle is not lost and so that overuse injuries don't develop.

    Getting plenty of lean protein is good. I also like to use liquid B vitamins before a workout. It gives energy right when you need it. :)
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Never mind got my answer elsewhere ~ in case anyone else is curious this was the response I got in regards to Turbo Sculpt consecutive days.

    By strength training every day, you risk two things:

    First, you can actually lose muscle. Muscle develops while at rest, which is why you should never work the same area two days in a row. In the case of Turbo Sculpt, it's a total body routine so to get the results you want, you should alternate the days you use it. Say Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday. If you don't give the muscles time to rest you could lose muscle tissue.

    Second, you risk over training, which is a direct effect of what I explained above. Not even bodybuilders work out the same are two days in a row. You could hinder the results you want so badly.

    Cardio on the other hand is another matter. 5 and 6 days a week is OK. You will be burning fat and help you define all areas.

    Hope this helps

    That's actually not the answer YOU were seeking. The answer to your question has already been provided in your thread.

    Your question was can you strength train the same muscles consecutively. But once we learned of your current exercise program, we informed you that you aren't actually strength training. So your actual question is "can I do my cardio program with light weights on consecutive days."

    Your program is more akin to cardio and doesn't induce the amount of tissue damage that occurs when strength training. The upside: you can do it much more frequently than strength training. The downside: it ain't strength training.

    Just because there's a weight involved doesn't make something strength training. And just because you like to do it doesn't magically turn it into strength training either. And just because you don't like the answers provided doesn't make them false.
  • Iron_Feline
    Iron_Feline Posts: 10,750 Member
    You can do strength training but you need a pretty good head on your shoulders and some experience. Also, you can't be on a "cut' or "diet" and pull-off the recovery required.

    Nonsense.

    Of course you can do strength training on a cut - it helps keep lbm, you might not get great gains or you may stall on lifts but you'll recover fine on a sensible programme with rest days.

    You also don't need experience or no one would ever start lifting. :noway:
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    I find that my lifts improve much faster when I rest for a couple of days in between. At this point, I have no choice but to take rest days between lifts because of exhaustion and soreness. SL 5x5 is kicking my butt, but I love it! I used to do isolated lifting 5 times per week and mix it in with cardio, but now that I am doing this program, 3 days of lifting and 2 to 3 days of cardio have been working just fine for me.
  • MrsJonesFitness
    MrsJonesFitness Posts: 15 Member
    I may get poo poo'ed on for this but I like CT Fletcher and I don't mind over training and it doesn't have me losing muscle mass.

    Also want to laugh about the word "toning" your muscles can have hypertrophy or atrophy but can't "tone," they only grow or shrink :) They also can't elongate unless you can stretch your bones ;)

    So what you need to figure out is do you want muscle growth, and if so, you set your fat % for your desired muscle reveal. If you don't want to look "ripped" jus more "toned" you may need a little more of a fat % over your muscles like 17-20% any lower and you may think you look too "ripped"
  • MrsJonesFitness
    MrsJonesFitness Posts: 15 Member
    You can do strength training but you need a pretty good head on your shoulders and some experience. Also, you can't be on a "cut' or "diet" and pull-off the recovery required.

    Nonsense.

    Of course you can do strength training on a cut - it helps keep lbm, you might not get great gains or you may stall on lifts but you'll recover fine on a sensible programme with rest days.

    You also don't need experience or no one would ever start lifting. :noway:
    I used google to learn my first year in and youtube for form, and friends.

    And you don't need bulk & cut cycles or there would be no Mr. Olympia lol .. I am 5'5, 125lbs and only lifted heavy and ate 2000 cals and lost 9 inches, so if you work hard, really hard and set your macros right you can achieve a great body without trying to put on muscle and fat then trying to lose the fat and trying not to lose any of those muscles again.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    You can do strength training but you need a pretty good head on your shoulders and some experience. Also, you can't be on a "cut' or "diet" and pull-off the recovery required.

    Nonsense.

    Of course you can do strength training on a cut - it helps keep lbm, you might not get great gains or you may stall on lifts but you'll recover fine on a sensible programme with rest days.

    You also don't need experience or no one would ever start lifting. :noway:
    I used google to learn my first year in and youtube for form, and friends.

    And you don't need bulk & cut cycles or there would be no Mr. Olympia lol .. I am 5'5, 125lbs and only lifted heavy and ate 2000 cals and lost 9 inches, so if you work hard, really hard and set your macros right you can achieve a great body without trying to put on muscle and fat then trying to lose the fat and trying not to lose any of those muscles again.

    Ummm...what? Bodybuilders (including those going for Mr. Olympia) do bulk and cut cycles.

    Maybe you might want to google that again.
  • djeffreys10
    djeffreys10 Posts: 2,312 Member
    There is no such thing as "toning" when it comes to training. You can strength train, or lift weights, or whatever you want to call it. There is no "toning" lifts. Continue to lift heavy relative what you can lift and your program. Strive for progressive overload on each session of each set. During a caloric deficit at least strive to be able to lift the same weight you could when you started your deficit. Get an adequate amount of protein. This will allow you to keep the strength and muscle you may have gained while being in a surplus. Cutting down to a lower body fat percentage will give you the "toned" look you seek. This will be achieved by eating in a caloric deficit not the workout. If you want to do some cardio because you enjoy it, fine. You don't have to increase it. Just create a deficit through your nutrition.

    ^truth
    You can do strength training but you need a pretty good head on your shoulders and some experience. Also, you can't be on a "cut' or "diet" and pull-off the recovery required.

    Wow, I guess I never got the memo that I can't strength train 5 days a week every spring while I am on a cut. Considering I am recovering completely training M-F and taking weekends off, I will just continue with that and come to the obvious conclusion that you are clueless.
    Never mind got my answer elsewhere ~ in case anyone else is curious this was the response I got in regards to Turbo Sculpt consecutive days.

    By strength training every day, you risk two things:

    First, you can actually lose muscle. Muscle develops while at rest, which is why you should never work the same area two days in a row. In the case of Turbo Sculpt, it's a total body routine so to get the results you want, you should alternate the days you use it. Say Monday, Wednesday, and Friday or Tuesday and Thursday. If you don't give the muscles time to rest you could lose muscle tissue.

    Second, you risk over training, which is a direct effect of what I explained above. Not even bodybuilders work out the same are two days in a row. You could hinder the results you want so badly.

    Cardio on the other hand is another matter. 5 and 6 days a week is OK. You will be burning fat and help you define all areas.

    Hope this helps

    That's actually not the answer YOU were seeking. The answer to your question has already been provided in your thread.

    Your question was can you strength train the same muscles consecutively. But once we learned of your current exercise program, we informed you that you aren't actually strength training. So your actual question is "can I do my cardio program with light weights on consecutive days."

    Your program is more akin to cardio and doesn't induce the amount of tissue damage that occurs when strength training. The upside: you can do it much more frequently than strength training. The downside: it ain't strength training.

    Just because there's a weight involved doesn't make something strength training. And just because you like to do it doesn't magically turn it into strength training either. And just because you don't like the answers provided doesn't make them false.

    And again, truth.