Shoes
chadya07
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So... I am using cheap sneakers now and they work fine but they are huge especially since i wear size 10.
i am pre shopping to buy myself a new pair of fancy sneaksas since i will be moving my runs outdoors and i noticed the trend is now thin soled running shoes. they always look awesome and i am tempted because of the huge feet heavy shoes thing but how do these thin shoes protect against shock for runners? is it even possible? anyone use em for running and can tell me how it goes?
anyway. thats a question. also if you love your brand i would love to know what it is.
i am pre shopping to buy myself a new pair of fancy sneaksas since i will be moving my runs outdoors and i noticed the trend is now thin soled running shoes. they always look awesome and i am tempted because of the huge feet heavy shoes thing but how do these thin shoes protect against shock for runners? is it even possible? anyone use em for running and can tell me how it goes?
anyway. thats a question. also if you love your brand i would love to know what it is.
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For running outside it would be advisable to visit a specialist running store where they will check your gait and recommend shoes that would be most suitable for you.0
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if you're running in cheap trainers at the minuet and not having any problems i'd guess you are a nutural runner so you don't need a shoes that will support you like the rest of us wonky lot, so the world is your oyster really
you're best bet is to find a good running shoes and go and try on some shoes, the one i went to had a treadmill so i could give the shoes a test and see what was best for me0 -
For running outside it would be advisable to visit a specialist running store where they will check your gait and recommend shoes that would be most suitable for you.
Absolutely!
After my 1st attempt at running, I almost immediately injured myself. I went to a running store and they did the whole video treadmill gait thing and recommended Brooks GTS. I have LOVED them! Simply amazing... no foot/leg fatigue, great support, etc. I am about to get my 2nd pair now (the GTS 14), but they also have a new, thin-soled one called 'Transcend'. Also, runningshoes.com voted their 'Ghost' model the best structured of all shoes.
Good luck
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The thinner soled shoes are normally called minimalist shoes. They are preferred by people who like the 'barefoot' running experience without going full on barefoot. If you opt for this style though you must make sure that your technique is good, so forefoot landing, short stride length and higher cadence for speed. If you land on your forefoot then the natural mechanics of your foot/leg should absorb the impact, as it was deisgned to do :-)
I dont think price really matters much as you can get some cheap trainers which are comfy. I am a sucker for bright colours. I find that many specialist running stores are a big fan of doing gait analysis and then instantly recommending a stability/motion control shoe. With proper technique you should be able to overcome the majority of any motion 'issues'.
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..... i will be moving my runs outdoors....
As you're talking about running then I would recommend getting properly fitted for a shoe appropriate for your running gait.and i noticed the trend is now thin soled running shoes.
As with any industry trends are cyclic. Minimalist shoes have been trendy for a couple of years but the market seems to be moving more towards bulk again.
Broadly there are four types of shoe:
For over-pronators a motion control/ stability shoe is appropriate - that tries to control the rotation of the ankle joint and landing/ push off cycle. The majority of people are over-pronators.
For neutral runners there is a mix of balance and cushioning - pretty much as it suggests
For under-pronators a cushioned shoe is more appropriate - As an underpronator tends to propagate shock through the skeletal system the increased cushioning reduces te effect of that.
Minimalist shoes have no padding or control, so they seek to have an effect through forcing correct form. It works for some new runners.
Part of this is also about the drop between heel and toe, ranging from 0mm to about 12mm, which has an effect on the balance between calf and shin muscles. Probably too detailed to go itno now though.
As above, go to a proper running shop and have a consultation on your gait.0 -
Buying running shoes because they LOOK GOOD .. is a great strategy .... NOT.
Go to a proper shop and take proper advice based upon YOUR gait, exercise goals and needs.0 -
not necessary to visit a "specialty running store".
the thin soled "minimalist" shoes really f'ed me up last year. the most expensive pair of running shoes i ever bought ($80) were of the minimalist variety, and ended up giving me my first running injury. I was sidelined for quite awhile due to it. so needless to say i am NOT a fan of that variety.
i'm currently using a $50 pair of saucony's i bought at famous footwear or rack room shoes. can't remember. they're the best pair of running shoes i've ever had in my 20+ years as an athlete.
my advice: beware the "specialty running stores" and their "gait analyses". mostly it's an excuse to try and sell you over priced shoes that the "experts" swear you need and will have you feeling like you're treading on clouds. bunch of balogna. you don't need to spend that kind of money if you don't want/have that to spend.
you don't mention having any issues with your feet, knees, joints etc with your current shoes. i'd say stick with that style, but try different brands to try and find a pair that please you more aesthetically. don't over think it. going to some sort of specialty store and having a gait analysis, as advised by the lot above, doesn't sound like it's necessary for you, as again it doesn't sound like you're having any issues with pain.
in any case, good luck.0 -
my advice: beware the "specialty running stores" and their "gait analyses". mostly it's an excuse to try and sell you over priced shoes that the "experts" swear you need and will have you feeling like you're treading on clouds. bunch of balogna. you don't need to spend that kind of money if you don't want/have that to spend.
Only a matter of time until someone comes up with this.
Of course you don't need to go and get some informed advice about shoe choice. For some people they can get away with picking up any old shoe.
From many of the discussions in various forums here and elsewhere, getting properly fitted shoes frequently makes a significant difference to people who're struggling with fatigue, minor injury, pain or just plain running comfort.0 -
you conveniently left off in my post that you quoted where i reference that OP did not mention anything about pain from her current shoes. she mentions seeking purely aesthetic appeal, therefore my conclusion that she needn't waste time/money on specialty stores and gait analyses would seem accurate, yes?my advice: beware the "specialty running stores" and their "gait analyses". mostly it's an excuse to try and sell you over priced shoes that the "experts" swear you need and will have you feeling like you're treading on clouds. bunch of balogna. you don't need to spend that kind of money if you don't want/have that to spend.
Only a matter of time until someone comes up with this.
Of course you don't need to go and get some informed advice about shoe choice. For some people they can get away with picking up any old shoe.
From many of the discussions in various forums here and elsewhere, getting properly fitted shoes frequently makes a significant difference to people who're struggling with fatigue, minor injury, pain or just plain running comfort.
ETA: not to mention how unreliable the in-store gait analyses really are. you're having your gait looked at by a random store clerk in a very controlled environment, which is causing you to be extra aware and most probably is affecting your gait. when out on the road and really running, 99.9% of the time your gait changes. it's SUCH bull, but the people in the selling business in the running industry are laughing all the way to the bank.0 -
I'm a barefoot/minimalist runner and I'd strongly advise you to do some research about this before jumping straight into minimalist shoes. If you are used to running in padded shoes with a large heel-toe drop, you can seriously hurt yourself trying to do the same mileage that you are used to in minimalist shoes (mine are only 4mm stack height with a 0mm drop). There is a lot of advice out there about how to transition to barefoot running if that is what you want to do, but if what you're doing is working it may not be worth the bother!0
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you conveniently left off in my post that you quoted where i reference that OP did not mention anything about pain from her current shoes. she mentions seeking purely aesthetic appeal, therefore my conclusion that she needn't waste time/money on specialty stores and gait analyses would seem accurate, yes
From posting history it seems that the long run is 6km, over an hour on a treadmill I wouldn't support your assessment as reasonable for transitioning to outdoor running, particularly given the weight loss objective.0 -
you conveniently left off in my post that you quoted where i reference that OP did not mention anything about pain from her current shoes. she mentions seeking purely aesthetic appeal, therefore my conclusion that she needn't waste time/money on specialty stores and gait analyses would seem accurate, yes?my advice: beware the "specialty running stores" and their "gait analyses". mostly it's an excuse to try and sell you over priced shoes that the "experts" swear you need and will have you feeling like you're treading on clouds. bunch of balogna. you don't need to spend that kind of money if you don't want/have that to spend.
Only a matter of time until someone comes up with this.
Of course you don't need to go and get some informed advice about shoe choice. For some people they can get away with picking up any old shoe.
From many of the discussions in various forums here and elsewhere, getting properly fitted shoes frequently makes a significant difference to people who're struggling with fatigue, minor injury, pain or just plain running comfort.
ETA: not to mention how unreliable the in-store gait analyses really are. you're having your gait looked at by a random store clerk in a very controlled environment, which is causing you to be extra aware and most probably is affecting your gait. when out on the road and really running, 99.9% of the time your gait changes. it's SUCH bull, but the people in the selling business in the running industry are laughing all the way to the bank.
Sorry if I don't take fitting advice from a person such as yourself who just randomly picks shoes and apparently jumped into mimimalist without any research or transition. The fact you then label talking to those who specialize in running as "bull" is just laughable.
You may have noticed that the OP didn't mention current or planned distances ... anything about running style ... etc. Somehow in that lack of information you found whatever nugget you need to go off on a diatribe about fittings.0 -
you don't mention having any issues with your feet, knees, joints etc with your current shoes. i'd say stick with that style, but try different brands to try and find a pair that please you more aesthetically. don't over think it. going to some sort of specialty store and having a gait analysis, as advised by the lot above, doesn't sound like it's necessary for you, as again it doesn't sound like you're having any issues with pain.
The idea for gait analysis isn't just to resolve pain, it's also used to prevent issues arising. It's far better to never have joint problems than wait for them to occur and then try to fix them.0 -
this 1000x over.you don't mention having any issues with your feet, knees, joints etc with your current shoes. i'd say stick with that style, but try different brands to try and find a pair that please you more aesthetically. don't over think it. going to some sort of specialty store and having a gait analysis, as advised by the lot above, doesn't sound like it's necessary for you, as again it doesn't sound like you're having any issues with pain.
The idea for gait analysis isn't just to resolve pain, it's also used to prevent issues arising. It's far better to never have joint problems than wait for them to occur and then try to fix them.0 -
you conveniently left off in my post that you quoted where i reference that OP did not mention anything about pain from her current shoes. she mentions seeking purely aesthetic appeal, therefore my conclusion that she needn't waste time/money on specialty stores and gait analyses would seem accurate, yes?my advice: beware the "specialty running stores" and their "gait analyses". mostly it's an excuse to try and sell you over priced shoes that the "experts" swear you need and will have you feeling like you're treading on clouds. bunch of balogna. you don't need to spend that kind of money if you don't want/have that to spend.
Only a matter of time until someone comes up with this.
Of course you don't need to go and get some informed advice about shoe choice. For some people they can get away with picking up any old shoe.
From many of the discussions in various forums here and elsewhere, getting properly fitted shoes frequently makes a significant difference to people who're struggling with fatigue, minor injury, pain or just plain running comfort.
ETA: not to mention how unreliable the in-store gait analyses really are. you're having your gait looked at by a random store clerk in a very controlled environment, which is causing you to be extra aware and most probably is affecting your gait. when out on the road and really running, 99.9% of the time your gait changes. it's SUCH bull, but the people in the selling business in the running industry are laughing all the way to the bank.
Sorry if I don't take fitting advice from a person such as yourself who just randomly picks shoes and apparently jumped into mimimalist without any research or transition. The fact you then label talking to those who specialize in running as "bull" is just laughable.
cheers to you for not taking my advice, as it wasn't directed at you. carry on then.0 -
you conveniently left off in my post that you quoted where i reference that OP did not mention anything about pain from her current shoes. she mentions seeking purely aesthetic appeal, therefore my conclusion that she needn't waste time/money on specialty stores and gait analyses would seem accurate, yes
From posting history it seems that the long run is 6km, over an hour on a treadmill I wouldn't support your assessment as reasonable for transitioning to outdoor running, particularly given the weight loss objective.
you lost me here.0 -
that's fine. but the reliability of the accuracy of one's gait being watched in a running store setting, and it being the same running outdoors, lacks credibility.you don't mention having any issues with your feet, knees, joints etc with your current shoes. i'd say stick with that style, but try different brands to try and find a pair that please you more aesthetically. don't over think it. going to some sort of specialty store and having a gait analysis, as advised by the lot above, doesn't sound like it's necessary for you, as again it doesn't sound like you're having any issues with pain.
The idea for gait analysis isn't just to resolve pain, it's also used to prevent issues arising. It's far better to never have joint problems than wait for them to occur and then try to fix them.0 -
you all get really uptight about someone else's shoes, simmer down
the OP just wanted to know if anyone currently used thinly padded shoes and if they were any good, no need to go thermonuclear about gait analysis0 -
you all get really uptight about someone else's shoes, simmer down
the OP just wanted to know if anyone currently used thinly padded shoes and if they were any good, no need to go thermonuclear about gait analysis
But we can't possibly know what is good for her... I love my minimalist shoes .. they suit ME, but each to their own.0 -
My local running shop had me running up and down outside the shop along the street to get a decent view of my gait. The shoes they recommended were actually at the cheaper end of their stock range and so far I've had no issues at all (running 25miles a week on average these days). Personally I'd try out a local running shop first as the advise they gave was worth the slight premium on the shoes over buying the same ones online or in a big store. Its very cynical (and IME inaccurate) to assume that they're all just out to make money at the expense of their customers. The small running shops I've been to most of the staff have been runners themselves and would rather have healthy customers who return than customers who get injured and stop running so they get no follow on business.0
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I have been running consistently for over 6 years, and this is the best advice I can give you: invest in a nice pair of running shoes, if you wish to continue your training outside. Go to a running store, where they can watch you run on a treadmill and figure out the pronation of your feet. Try on as many different models as you can. Last time I bought my Brooks Ghost, I had about 16 pairs of shoes to chose from! And the store assistant was happy to bring out more if I needed Don't be afraid to try .5-1 size bigger shoes, it definitely helped me to stop losing toe nails lolz. Once you choose one, make sure you get the right socks as well. No cotton, 95-98% polyester. Also, I don't recommend washing your shoes in a washing machine, although I know tons of people do that. Hand washing is much more gentle, so that's what I do.
These are some of running shoes I've had: Asics, Sausony, Brooks, Mizuno. Brooks are my favorite.
Feel free to add me as well, if you would like a running buddy Good luck. 0 -
From posting history it seems that the long run is 6km, over an hour on a treadmill I wouldn't support your assessment as reasonable for transitioning to outdoor running, particularly given the weight loss objective.
you lost me here.
The originators posting history demonstrates various aspects that render an assessment based on no indications of issues meaningless.
Treadmill user - so transitioning
Slow
Short distances
Significantly overweight
Not difficult really.0 -
LOL. i am purely using the information at hand. i don't have enough interest to go into research about OPs posting history. you have fun with that.From posting history it seems that the long run is 6km, over an hour on a treadmill I wouldn't support your assessment as reasonable for transitioning to outdoor running, particularly given the weight loss objective.
you lost me here.
The originators posting history demonstrates various aspects that render an assessment based on no indications of issues meaningless.
Treadmill user - so transitioning
Slow
Short distances
Significantly overweight
Not difficult really.0 -
ha. this is true. myself included i know. it's good to be called out sometimes - many thanks, for realyou all get really uptight about someone else's shoes, simmer down
the OP just wanted to know if anyone currently used thinly padded shoes and if they were any good, no need to go thermonuclear about gait analysis 0 -
LOL. i am purely using the information at hand. i don't have enough interest to go into research about OPs posting history. you have fun with that.
I generally take the view that if the advice that's being given is nonsense and based on flawed assumptions it might just be worth double checking to see if there's been a previous interaction. Takes two minutes and it helps in mitigating, particularly where there is form for bad advice...0 -
i generally take the view that if the OP is asking a question, he/she will give the information she wants to be taken into consideration for advice to be given.LOL. i am purely using the information at hand. i don't have enough interest to go into research about OPs posting history. you have fun with that.
I generally take the view that if the advice that's being given is nonsense and based on flawed assumptions it might just be worth double checking to see if there's been a previous interaction. Takes two minutes and it helps in mitigating, particularly where there is form for bad advice...0 -
lol on this thread. thank you for those who gave advice. i think i will stay away from the minimalist ones for now. the issue was not purely for looks, as i said the shoes i wear work, but are giant and clunky. quite heavy because of my shoe size. also very stiff so i guess i wondered if it is better to have more flexibility like i like with walking shoes. they were 30 dollars.
i just moved to this site from weight watchers and was not expecting the forums here to be so much more... animated. although i suppose it keeps things from being boring and better than everyone from agreeing and enabling so they dont hurt feelings.... .
anyway i think i will meet you all halfway and see a "specialist" but employ my critical thinking in my decision making.
i want good shoes more than my money at this point.0 -
its so crazy that people can stalk your posts too... good for perspectives but also kinda weird.0
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anyway i think i will meet you all halfway and see a "specialist" but employ my critical thinking in my decision making.
Many of the better running stores have a returns policy that will allow you to use the shoes out in the real to determine if they're right for you. A recent discussion had someone on the fourth or fifth return, but she was carrying an injury which didn't help her decision making.
Some also have associated running clubs, which may be helpful.0
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