EXERCISING DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN EAT UNHEALTHY!!
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Ummm...what? What are you defining as unhealthy?
AND WHY ARE WE YELLING?
ETA: And exercise is for fitness. If you are concentrating on losing weight, then you should be focused on eating less than your maintenance.
Haha apologies for the caps. And I should've clarified unhealthy as being eating whatever you want with no concept of caloric intake. My b! And exercise isn't just for fitness.. paired with diet is great for weight loss. Weight training boosts metabolic rate and allows for aided fat loss. Intaking less calories and not using exercising as an excuse to eat whatever you want was the point I was kind of trying to make with the post. Thanks for the feedback!
So what you are saying (just to clarify) is that you aren't talking about type of food being unhealthy but rather eating calories that would end up being more than what you would need to maintain (even with exercise). If so, I completely agree with that.0 -
I agree... exercising does not mean you can eat unhealthy. I mean you can and you can still lose weight or maintain if you have same amount of cal intake and it's appropriate but think what it does to your body! if you read on all the nutritious values on good food and eating right. Now look at eating crap.. what are you depriving from your body and how does your body keep stamina and in great shape Depleted! sure we can all not drink water and drink other things juice and tonic all day long.. but read about what water does for you. It's about Health not about skinny!!!!!!!!!!! of course, I think most of us aim for both but some end up consumed on getting skinny kick and then some even end up not healthy! so if you gonna go for one thing go for health and skinny will come along with it. I don't eat perfect first 2 monthes I think I did awesome! but lately not so good... but I still whether good or bad not think so much on skinny how I think how my body is not oiled up and working at it's max. I also notice some foods are not as good tasting after I've trained myself to hold back and learn about food and the body.. or maybe my taste buds are changing more. Some foods have tons of salt and sugar when I was eating that ALL THE TIME I never really noticed HOW MUCH. Guys healthy is the new skinny.
This. yes. you were able to make sense of what I was trying to say, it IS about being healthy. Why would you want to be skinny fat? skinny outside, failing organs inside? I'm fortunate to show the weight on the outside because if I didn't and I COULD get away with eating whatever I wanted then I surely would die from heart disease or another obesity related disease. It IS about health. All of my grandparents passed this year because of poor health from not exercising and eating poorly. And all were thin.0 -
Ummm...what? What are you defining as unhealthy?
AND WHY ARE WE YELLING?
ETA: And exercise is for fitness. If you are concentrating on losing weight, then you should be focused on eating less than your maintenance.
Haha apologies for the caps. And I should've clarified unhealthy as being eating whatever you want with no concept of caloric intake. My b! And exercise isn't just for fitness.. paired with diet is great for weight loss. Weight training boosts metabolic rate and allows for aided fat loss. Intaking less calories and not using exercising as an excuse to eat whatever you want was the point I was kind of trying to make with the post. Thanks for the feedback!
So what you are saying (just to clarify) is that you aren't talking about type of food being unhealthy but rather eating calories that would end up being more than what you would need to maintain (even with exercise). If so, I completely agree with that.
Exactly. Though I don't think exercise is an excuse to binge like I was during my training. But obviously it's nice to enjoy pizza and ice cream and whatnot in moderate amounts without binging and not be deterred because of exercise and regular heathy eating0 -
I get what you are saying. Many people tend to say, " I ran a few miles today, so that means I can eat to my heart's content because I did something. Screw calories!" It doesn't work that way. Yes, we can still enjoy our treats and whatnot, but we must remain disciplined with food as well as exercise by remaining in a deficit in order to lose weight.0
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You gained 40 pounds training for a marathon? I'm sorry, but your appetite got way (seriously way way) out of control. That in no way proves most people can't eat some pizza.0
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I agree... exercising does not mean you can eat unhealthy. I mean you can and you can still lose weight or maintain if you have same amount of cal intake and it's appropriate but think what it does to your body! if you read on all the nutritious values on good food and eating right. Now look at eating crap.. what are you depriving from your body and how does your body keep stamina and in great shape Depleted! sure we can all not drink water and drink other things juice and tonic all day long.. but read about what water does for you. It's about Health not about skinny!!!!!!!!!!! of course, I think most of us aim for both but some end up consumed on getting skinny kick and then some even end up not healthy! so if you gonna go for one thing go for health and skinny will come along with it. I don't eat perfect first 2 monthes I think I did awesome! but lately not so good... but I still whether good or bad not think so much on skinny how I think how my body is not oiled up and working at it's max. I also notice some foods are not as good tasting after I've trained myself to hold back and learn about food and the body.. or maybe my taste buds are changing more. Some foods have tons of salt and sugar when I was eating that ALL THE TIME I never really noticed HOW MUCH. Guys healthy is the new skinny.
If you are eating crap, I'd suggest getting some professional help. I hope no one is eating crap.
Sometimes my dog eats horse crap.0 -
Since nutrient density and unprocessedness determines healthiness of what we eat, and broccoli is a very nutrient dense food with minimal processing, I'm going to start eating 2000 calories of broccoli every day for maximum health.
Brilliant!
I'll report back in four months with my amazing success story.0 -
I agree... exercising does not mean you can eat unhealthy. I mean you can and you can still lose weight or maintain if you have same amount of cal intake and it's appropriate but think what it does to your body! if you read on all the nutritious values on good food and eating right. Now look at eating crap.. what are you depriving from your body and how does your body keep stamina and in great shape Depleted! sure we can all not drink water and drink other things juice and tonic all day long.. but read about what water does for you. It's about Health not about skinny!!!!!!!!!!! of course, I think most of us aim for both but some end up consumed on getting skinny kick and then some even end up not healthy! so if you gonna go for one thing go for health and skinny will come along with it. I don't eat perfect first 2 monthes I think I did awesome! but lately not so good... but I still whether good or bad not think so much on skinny how I think how my body is not oiled up and working at it's max. I also notice some foods are not as good tasting after I've trained myself to hold back and learn about food and the body.. or maybe my taste buds are changing more. Some foods have tons of salt and sugar when I was eating that ALL THE TIME I never really noticed HOW MUCH. Guys healthy is the new skinny.
Exactly how many decoder rings did I miss today?0 -
Yes, it does. No one is obligated to eat healthy or be healthy, whether they exercise or not.
Additionally, if this is strictly in regards to weight loss, then it's still true, and this site has had many successes without surrendering foods or food groups.0 -
I really am addicted to the exercise ... I don't know that I'll ever master the eating. I hear this, and I believe it ... but I do still try to out-cardio my calories! *Ü* There are just so many yummy (but not good for you) foods out there, and unfortunately the "good for you" stuff doesn't appeal. Some people do actually really seem to enjoy it! I know my diet is not good, way too much in the way of sugar and carbs, but I do track and record everything and at least try to keep my calories in check. I am very active, my Fitbit is giving my an average burn about 3000. I TRY to stay around 2000 calories a day, but the "bad" foods do add up very quickly, so it is a challenge. I've been at a plateau now for months, but I'm close to goal too ... but I bet simply switching up what I was eating could get me there, I just can't give up the ice cream!0
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Exactly how many decoder rings did I miss today?
Thank god I'm not the only one who thought this:)0 -
Oh, I guess I'll regain my 100 lbs and try your way.
eating 'healthy' is subjective0 -
OP, people are taking issue with your word choice, but I knew what you meant! And I totally agree. I have finally decided to stop trying to out-train my diet.0
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.... and IN awaiting the different factions to arrive and set up their tissue box forts and throw water bombs at each other.
FWIW...
if you mean exercise and eat all foods in moderation to lose weight and stay that way - yay I agree.
if you mean nibble celery sticks and eat zucchini spaghetti and train harder than the day is long is the only way to lose weight - then no I disagree. People need to stop demonizing food.0 -
You gained 40 pounds training for a marathon? I'm sorry, but your appetite got way (seriously way way) out of control. That in no way proves most people can't eat some pizza.
Haha well obviously. Thus while I'm here0 -
No offense OP but in your example it sounded like you weren't actually tracking your calories.
I have to disagree with you that if you ARE tracking your calories then yes of course you can eat "unhealthily" if by "unhealthily" you mean some pizza now and again provided you are tracking your calories and staying within your goal based on your exercise burn.
You can, in fact, exercise your way into having an extra slice of pizza if your goal is weight loss or maintenance. Does anyone actually dispute that? Or are you just saying that for you personally that wasn't a good approach? If you are trying to make this a general statement about how that approach doesn't work for anyone then I think you are taking your personal experience and applying it more broadly than I think is justified.0 -
You gained 40 pounds training for a marathon? I'm sorry, but your appetite got way (seriously way way) out of control. That in no way proves most people can't eat some pizza.
Haha well obviously. Thus while I'm here
See. I'm a giver.0 -
Oh, I guess I'll regain my 100 lbs and try your way.
eating 'healthy' is subjective
No need for the hate, just worded it differently than I intended. Apologies for the miscommunication. Geesh didn't mean to offend anyone!0 -
Welcome, and I absolutely love your energy!
I see where you are coming from, and what you are saying is sensible, but most of it is simply not true. First of all, weight loss is about calories in/calories out. Eat less calories than you burn and you will lose weight every single time. You can eat whatever you want as long as you stay under your calorie goal. That's simply science.Four years ago I decided to train for and run a marathon. I had been in excellent shape at that point, running 6 miles daily with regular boxing and weight training workouts. I also was very VERY strict with what I was putting in my mouth, only allowing myself unhealthy items 5-10% of the time. I weighed 131 pounds when I started training for the marathon. 5 months later on the day of the race, I weighed 170 pounds. I had GAINED 40 pounds in 5 months from eating whatever I wanted. I dumbly thought that 'wow, I am running 40+ miles a week, I must be burning a ton of calories so yay pizza!!'
I'm also a bit confused about the part of putting on 40 pounds in 5 months while training for a marathon, especially since you said you are so healthy. No offense intended, but couldn't you feel yourself gaining weight and realize that something was wrong with your plan? That perhaps you were eating way more calories than you were burning?To put this into perspective, someone that is around 150 pounds burns about roughly 300-350 calories in 30 minutes of running (10 min/mile). In a large slice of cheese pizza there is about the same amount of calories. It takes me maybe 5-10 minutes to eat a slice of pizza. Right there takes away your exercise deficit. It is SO EASY to overeat when we regularly workout because a) we think we burn more calories during our workouts than we actually do and b) we are hungrier when we are more active! at least I amJust remember that abs are built in the kitchen exercise is only 20% of weight loss... it is actually monitoring what we put in our bellys that we will see the best results, and especially not negative results! Regular exercise is not an excuse for poor eating (what I have done my whole life). Is this something you all struggle with? Let's conquer the hunger with nutritious foods and see amazing results from our hard-earned workouts!!0 -
Most weight I ever lost over a short period of time was done while eating about 2700 calories per day of nothing but 60% fat salami, cheese, granola, bread, salty beef jerky, dried fruit, nuts, candy bars, hard candies, processed chili mac and beef pre-prepared dinners. Salt content was through the damn roof and almost everything was "processed".
Lost about 10 pounds in 14 days. Of course I was exercising a bit.0 -
No offense OP but in your example it sounded like you weren't actually tracking your calories.
I have to disagree with you that if you ARE tracking your calories then yes of course you can eat "unhealthily" if by "unhealthily" you mean some pizza now and again provided you are tracking your calories and staying within your goal based on your exercise burn.
You can, in fact, exercise your way into having an extra slice of pizza if your goal is weight loss or maintenance. Does anyone actually dispute that? Or are you just saying that for you personally that wasn't a good approach? If you are trying to make this a general statement about how that approach doesn't work for anyone then I think you are taking your personal experience and applying it more broadly than I think is justified.
For me I wasn't tracking any calories because I was justifying my training as a way to eliminate the calories I would be binging. Not a general statement for all. But I know many people also have that same downfall where they start to exercise and allow themselves to eat whatever (not tracking calories) and obviously that can lead to weight gain like it did for me.0 -
People are selectively reading and getting offended.
You can out exercise your calories as long as you know what you're taking in, though.0 -
Most weight I ever lost over a short period of time was done while eating about 2700 calories per day of nothing but 60% fat salami, cheese, granola, bread, salty beef jerky, dried fruit, nuts, candy bars, hard candies, processed chili mac and beef pre-prepared dinners. Salt content was through the damn roof and almost everything was "processed".
Lost about 10 pounds in 14 days. Of course I was exercising a bit.
I'm not able to do that because my metabolic rate isn't that high and I have prehypertension0 -
I went to a self-help seminar and one of the things said that has stuck with me is "loosing weight is easy, everyone knows how to do it and only people who are deluded looking for a quick fix don't. The simple answer is to stop stuffing your face, and to start moving more, its a no brainer. The problem is that most people think that "hey I worked out, I deserve to eat a cookie, I earned it" but the point of working out wasn't to eat a cookie, it was to get fit, to loose fat, to shape up. This is why most people fail at loosing weight. They eat healthy monday through friday work out 3 days a week and then when the weekend comes the binge out and the next week when they found out they didn't loose any weight they get demotivated and quit. It's this whole entitlement culture, people believe that just because they did something that they deserve a reward a gold star when the point is to build a new lifestyle one that will stick with you for the rest of your life."0
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People are selectively reading and getting offended.
You can out exercise your calories as long as you know what you're taking in, though.
Yeah, that is all I was saying.
I mean I think the TRUE lesson here is if you don't track your calories and you are someone who is prone to overeating you are setting yourself up for weight gain regardless of how "healthy" your food is or how much you exercise.0 -
People are selectively reading and getting offended.
People are trying to clarify.0 -
Most weight I ever lost over a short period of time was done while eating about 2700 calories per day of nothing but 60% fat salami, cheese, granola, bread, salty beef jerky, dried fruit, nuts, candy bars, hard candies, processed chili mac and beef pre-prepared dinners. Salt content was through the damn roof and almost everything was "processed".
Lost about 10 pounds in 14 days. Of course I was exercising a bit.
I'm not able to do that because my metabolic rate isn't that high and I have prehypertension
My metabolic rate is not "high" and if you were honestly planning on running a marathon then you clearly can do long term endurance style exercise.
During that time I was hiking 16 miles a day with a 40 pound pack through rough terrain so my TDEE was probably around 6000.0 -
People are selectively reading and getting offended.
You can out exercise your calories as long as you know what you're taking in, though.
Yeah, that is all I was saying.
I mean I think the TRUE lesson here is if you don't track your calories and you are someone who is prone to overeating you are setting yourself up for weight gain regardless of how "healthy" your food is or how much you exercise.0 -
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Welcome, and I absolutely love your energy!
I see where you are coming from, and what you are saying is sensible, but most of it is simply not true. First of all, weight loss is about calories in/calories out. Eat less calories than you burn and you will lose weight every single time. You can eat whatever you want as long as you stay under your calorie goal. That's simply science.Four years ago I decided to train for and run a marathon. I had been in excellent shape at that point, running 6 miles daily with regular boxing and weight training workouts. I also was very VERY strict with what I was putting in my mouth, only allowing myself unhealthy items 5-10% of the time. I weighed 131 pounds when I started training for the marathon. 5 months later on the day of the race, I weighed 170 pounds. I had GAINED 40 pounds in 5 months from eating whatever I wanted. I dumbly thought that 'wow, I am running 40+ miles a week, I must be burning a ton of calories so yay pizza!!'
I'm also a bit confused about the part of putting on 40 pounds in 5 months while training for a marathon, especially since you said you are so healthy. No offense intended, but couldn't you feel yourself gaining weight and realize that something was wrong with your plan? That perhaps you were eating way more calories than you were burning?To put this into perspective, someone that is around 150 pounds burns about roughly 300-350 calories in 30 minutes of running (10 min/mile). In a large slice of cheese pizza there is about the same amount of calories. It takes me maybe 5-10 minutes to eat a slice of pizza. Right there takes away your exercise deficit. It is SO EASY to overeat when we regularly workout because a) we think we burn more calories during our workouts than we actually do and b) we are hungrier when we are more active! at least I amJust remember that abs are built in the kitchen exercise is only 20% of weight loss... it is actually monitoring what we put in our bellys that we will see the best results, and especially not negative results! Regular exercise is not an excuse for poor eating (what I have done my whole life). Is this something you all struggle with? Let's conquer the hunger with nutritious foods and see amazing results from our hard-earned workouts!!
1) thanks for the feedback!
2) I do believe you can be thin without exercise, but it also aides in weight loss... more muscle burns more calories at rest, that's also science. muscle takes energy to maintain, therefore when we have more muscle, we expend more energy at rest.
3) why would you want to eat whatever you want and still be thin but have so many other health problems?
4) and yes I was very fit before my marathon training but running for 3 hours made me starving, I never felt that need to binge like I did then. It went downhill and became a problem. that's why I'm here.
5) agreed calories are a generalization. that is what I burned usually at that pace at that weight. thanks for clarifying though0
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