Phentermine to jump start weight loss under Dr.s supervision

The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?

The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.

It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.

So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.

The reason why you aren't getting a lot of positive responses about it is because there isn't a lot of positive things to say about it. It causes heart problems, and many people gain the weight PLUS some, back. If you're going to be on a calorie deficit, the weight is going to come off anyway; Phentermine is not going to help with that.

It may not be what you want to hear, but it's realistic. Wouldn't you rather have honesty?

People generally, don't want to see others fail.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do. And be careful.

Do you have research that shows Phen causes heart problems? I certainly can't find any.

Perhaps youre confusing Phen with Fen.

have you ever taken it? that stuff makes your heart RACE- and man I wouldn't sleep for weeks. there is NO doubt it causes heart problems and even the side effects and drug warnings are clearly labeled on the pamphlet the pharmacy gives you.

Yes I have.

My sister as well.

My doctor as well.

Fen caused significant heart valve issues. And was subsequently pulled from the market due to it.

However, multiple studies have shown that Phen (not Fen) does NOT cause heart valve or attack issues.

"Dry mouth and insomnia were the only statistically significant adverse events that occurred more frequently in phentermine group....US FDA has removed FENfluramin from the market in September 1997, due to the successive reports about the serious side effects of valvular heart disease and primary pulmonary hypertension." - Effects on Weight Reduction and Safety of Short-Term Phentermine Administration 2006 Study

There is more that say the same thing.

People with heart disease or taking MOI's are encouraged to NOT take it because it does raise blood pressure slightly. However, it does not cause heart issues in otherwise healthy people. Coffee makes your heart speed up as well.

The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?

The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.

It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.

So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.

You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")

You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)

Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.

I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here

If someone loses weight the "right" way and then stops eating properly and gains it all back, did they gain it back because of the diet?

That makes about as much sense as saying someone gained the weight back because of Phen.

As I said on page 1, people seem to think that you can either learn to eat properly OR take Phen.

FYI: You can do BOTH.

Calorie surplus=weight gain
Calorie deficit=weight loss

It really is a math equation. Calories in and calories out. (you should already be aware of this considering you had a 2 part thread about it) But hey, you seem pretty set on it and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind.

At least additional information is available in this thread, in case there are lurkers reading it and/or individuals open to a different approach. (or need clarification if they do not understand something)

The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?

The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.

It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.

So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.

You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")

You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)

Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.

I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here

If someone loses weight the "right" way and then stops eating properly and gains it all back, did they gain it back because of the diet?

That makes about as much sense as saying someone gained the weight back because of Phen.

As I said on page 1, people seem to think that you can either learn to eat properly OR take Phen.

FYI: You can do BOTH.

Calorie surplus=weight gain
Calorie deficit=weight loss

It really is a math equation. Calories in and calories out. (you should already be aware of this considering you had a 2 part thread about it) But hey, you seem pretty set on it and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind.

At least additional information is available in this thread, in case there are lurkers reading it and/or individuals open to a different approach. (or need clarification if they do not understand something)

I'm not sure what you're talking about.

I'm saying that Phen helps some people eat less calories and learn to accept that, thus creating a caloric deficit and losing weight.

I started paxil when i was 17 and i was fine on it i maybe gained 10 lbs which wasn't a big deal but when my dosage was doubled over the course of a few years all of a sudden i realized i had gained 40 lbs. i tried dieting exercise and would maybe lose 5 lbs at most. i decided to go off the medication after years of being on it. Within a week i lost 8 lbs which was almost scary but it didn't seem to change much, or so i thought. i had finished school and had a lot more time on my hands and i started going to the gym 6 days a week just to have something to do for myself and to keep my spirits up since i was no longer on the meds. i lost all 40 lbs and more within a couple months. A year later i started having som issues with my anxiety and depression and went back to the doctor and begged for something that wouldn't make me gain weight and wouldn't kill my sex drive. He gave me celexa which worked better than the paxil i wasn't as tired or groggy and i felt like my libido dropped a little but not bad. Then after 3 months i gained 40 lbs again... its been almost a year and a half since i stopped all the medications and I cant seem to get my weight to go down. I had my thyroid checked and had every test ran, and nothing. I work out at least 4 times a week but usually more and i don't eat horribly. i do tend to not track it very well but a lot better than when i was thin! I got a prescription for phentermine and i took it for few days and felt like my heart was racing constantly and i decided to stop it. i lost 5 lbs in those few days but i wen through a really hard few days of depression and so tired i could barely stay awake. it scares me to try this again and take it for the 3 months and literally be a zombie after i get off of it. I don't know if any of you out there have any success stories losing the weight after stopping celexa or another SSRI... paxil was easy but this celexa has ruined my body.