Phentermine to jump start weight loss under Dr.s supervision
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People don't need to judge. I get this. Proud of you.0
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Yes, this!0
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Celexa as in Citalopram? I was on it for a short time. Without too much detail, I was on depression drugs to get over a near-rape incident that lead to my divorce. While on the drug, I became a zombie and have little to no memory of that time frame which is why I stopped taking it. I didn't really eat, so I lost weight from it. I've never been put on any drug for weight loss.0
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The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
The reason why you aren't getting a lot of positive responses about it is because there isn't a lot of positive things to say about it. It causes heart problems, and many people gain the weight PLUS some, back. If you're going to be on a calorie deficit, the weight is going to come off anyway; Phentermine is not going to help with that.
It may not be what you want to hear, but it's realistic. Wouldn't you rather have honesty?
People generally, don't want to see others fail.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do. And be careful.0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
The reason why you aren't getting a lot of positive responses about it is because there isn't a lot of positive things to say about it. It causes heart problems, and many people gain the weight PLUS some, back. If you're going to be on a calorie deficit, the weight is going to come off anyway; Phentermine is not going to help with that.
It may not be what you want to hear, but it's realistic. Wouldn't you rather have honesty?
People generally, don't want to see others fail.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do. And be careful.
Do you have research that shows Phen causes heart problems? I certainly can't find any.
Perhaps youre confusing Phen with Fen.0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")
You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)
Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.
I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
The reason why you aren't getting a lot of positive responses about it is because there isn't a lot of positive things to say about it. It causes heart problems, and many people gain the weight PLUS some, back. If you're going to be on a calorie deficit, the weight is going to come off anyway; Phentermine is not going to help with that.
It may not be what you want to hear, but it's realistic. Wouldn't you rather have honesty?
People generally, don't want to see others fail.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do. And be careful.
Do you have research that shows Phen causes heart problems? I certainly can't find any.
Perhaps youre confusing Phen with Fen.
have you ever taken it? that stuff makes your heart RACE- and man I wouldn't sleep for weeks. there is NO doubt it causes heart problems and even the side effects and drug warnings are clearly labeled on the pamphlet the pharmacy gives you.0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")
You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)
Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.
I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
If someone loses weight the "right" way and then stops eating properly and gains it all back, did they gain it back because of the diet?
That makes about as much sense as saying someone gained the weight back because of Phen.
As I said on page 1, people seem to think that you can either learn to eat properly OR take Phen.
FYI: You can do BOTH.0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
MFP wasn't created so that everyone who posts a thread gets nothing but agreeable replies. Diet pills are harmful and unnecessary. No one is telling you to defend yourself, they are giving good advice: "don't take drugs."
If you require mostly agreeable replies to your questions, I'd recommend posting to your blog or newsfeed.
Also, birth control doesn't cause weight gain. Also, paragraphs. :flowerforyou:0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
The reason why you aren't getting a lot of positive responses about it is because there isn't a lot of positive things to say about it. It causes heart problems, and many people gain the weight PLUS some, back. If you're going to be on a calorie deficit, the weight is going to come off anyway; Phentermine is not going to help with that.
It may not be what you want to hear, but it's realistic. Wouldn't you rather have honesty?
People generally, don't want to see others fail.
Good luck in whatever you decide to do. And be careful.
Do you have research that shows Phen causes heart problems? I certainly can't find any.
Perhaps youre confusing Phen with Fen.
have you ever taken it? that stuff makes your heart RACE- and man I wouldn't sleep for weeks. there is NO doubt it causes heart problems and even the side effects and drug warnings are clearly labeled on the pamphlet the pharmacy gives you.
Yes I have.
My sister as well.
My doctor as well.
Fen caused significant heart valve issues. And was subsequently pulled from the market due to it.
However, multiple studies have shown that Phen (not Fen) does NOT cause heart valve or attack issues.
"Dry mouth and insomnia were the only statistically significant adverse events that occurred more frequently in phentermine group....US FDA has removed FENfluramin from the market in September 1997, due to the successive reports about the serious side effects of valvular heart disease and primary pulmonary hypertension." - Effects on Weight Reduction and Safety of Short-Term Phentermine Administration 2006 Study
There is more that say the same thing.
People with heart disease or taking MOI's are encouraged to NOT take it because it does raise blood pressure slightly. However, it does not cause heart issues in otherwise healthy people. Coffee makes your heart speed up as well.1 -
I have been using it for the past two months and never felt better! Lost 21 lbs so far. I log my food faithfully, check my blood pressure (which has decreased to a healthy number) and am monitored by a specialist. I will be off the medication in 3 weeks and am confident I will lose more weight on my journey. I also exercise every day.
Best of luck!0 -
Yes I have.
My sister as well.
My doctor as well.
Fen caused significant heart valve issues. And was subsequently pulled from the market due to it.
However, multiple studies have shown that Phen (not Fen) does NOT cause heart valve or attack issues.
"Dry mouth and insomnia were the only statistically significant adverse events that occurred more frequently in phentermine group....US FDA has removed FENfluramin from the market in September 1997, due to the successive reports about the serious side effects of valvular heart disease and primary pulmonary hypertension." - Effects on Weight Reduction and Safety of Short-Term Phentermine Administration 2006 Study
There is more that say the same thing.
People with heart disease or taking MOI's are encouraged to NOT take it because it does raise blood pressure slightly. However, it does not cause heart issues in otherwise healthy people. Coffee makes your heart speed up as well.
My heart is otherwise healthy- i tried it, stupidly, back in college. I felt like my heart was going to explode. I took (stole) them from my mother, who complained about how they made her heart feel. She also has a healthy heart. The doctor took her off of them after the complaints.
This was in 2011. It wasn't Fen. It was Phentermine, and she was ALSO under a doctor's supervision. He also warned her from the beginning of the potential complications.0 -
Yes I have.
My sister as well.
My doctor as well.
Fen caused significant heart valve issues. And was subsequently pulled from the market due to it.
However, multiple studies have shown that Phen (not Fen) does NOT cause heart valve or attack issues.
"Dry mouth and insomnia were the only statistically significant adverse events that occurred more frequently in phentermine group....US FDA has removed FENfluramin from the market in September 1997, due to the successive reports about the serious side effects of valvular heart disease and primary pulmonary hypertension." - Effects on Weight Reduction and Safety of Short-Term Phentermine Administration 2006 Study
There is more that say the same thing.
People with heart disease or taking MOI's are encouraged to NOT take it because it does raise blood pressure slightly. However, it does not cause heart issues in otherwise healthy people. Coffee makes your heart speed up as well.
My heart is otherwise healthy- i tried it, stupidly, back in college. I felt like my heart was going to explode. I took (stole) them from my mother, who complained about how they made her heart feel. She also has a healthy heart. The doctor took her off of them after the complaints.
This was in 2011. It wasn't Fen. It was Phentermine, and she was ALSO under a doctor's supervision. He also warned her from the beginning of the potential complications.
Lets be careful though.
There is a difference in FEELING like your heart is going to explode, and it actually causing heart issues.
Anxiety, doing HIIT, taking Caffeine ... etc all make some people FEEL like their heart is pumping out of their chest. It doens't mean its unsafe.
Also, you may have taken too high of a dose. Ya know, considering it wasn't prescribed to you.
Or maybe you are the 1% who have issues with it. It doesn't make it unsafe.
"Dry mouth and insomnia were the only statistically significant adverse events that occurred more frequently in phentermine group....US FDA has removed FENfluramin from the market in September 1997, due to the successive reports about the serious side effects of valvular heart disease and primary pulmonary hypertension." - Effects on Weight Reduction and Safety of Short-Term Phentermine Administration 2006 Study0 -
though it may be effective, why should the OP even take it if she had success without it.
and ^^^^ theres a difference between feeling like your chest is going to explode from the medication vs fast heartbeat due to cardio
way different feeling.
the OP will most likely NOT die from it and though the drug is prob ok to use there is a reason you have to sign for it and only be prescribed for short amounts of time
it is after all practically speed....0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")
You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)
Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.
I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
If someone loses weight the "right" way and then stops eating properly and gains it all back, did they gain it back because of the diet?
That makes about as much sense as saying someone gained the weight back because of Phen.
As I said on page 1, people seem to think that you can either learn to eat properly OR take Phen.
FYI: You can do BOTH.
Calorie surplus=weight gain
Calorie deficit=weight loss
It really is a math equation. Calories in and calories out. (you should already be aware of this considering you had a 2 part thread about it) But hey, you seem pretty set on it and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind.
At least additional information is available in this thread, in case there are lurkers reading it and/or individuals open to a different approach. (or need clarification if they do not understand something)0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")
You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)
Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.
I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
If someone loses weight the "right" way and then stops eating properly and gains it all back, did they gain it back because of the diet?
That makes about as much sense as saying someone gained the weight back because of Phen.
As I said on page 1, people seem to think that you can either learn to eat properly OR take Phen.
FYI: You can do BOTH.
Calorie surplus=weight gain
Calorie deficit=weight loss
It really is a math equation. Calories in and calories out. (you should already be aware of this considering you had a 2 part thread about it) But hey, you seem pretty set on it and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind.
At least additional information is available in this thread, in case there are lurkers reading it and/or individuals open to a different approach. (or need clarification if they do not understand something)
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I'm saying that Phen helps some people eat less calories and learn to accept that, thus creating a caloric deficit and losing weight.0 -
though it may be effective, why should the OP even take it if she had success without it.
and ^^^^ theres a difference between feeling like your chest is going to explode from the medication vs fast heartbeat due to cardio
way different feeling.
the OP will most likely NOT die from it and though the drug is prob ok to use there is a reason you have to sign for it and only be prescribed for short amounts of time
it is after all practically speed....
Yeah you have to sign for it because it is an amphetamine and the possibility for drug users to abuse it is high.0 -
I'm not here to judge OP!! Just to offer some personal experience.
I took phentermine approx. 15 years ago, for about 8 months, and lost 65lbs. It definitely worked to curb my appetite and I had tons of energy for working out. I saw my doctor monthly for evaluation during that time. I did experience a bit of insomnia and severe dry mouth, but I thought at the time the benefits outweighed the issues. I also experienced the racing heart but only a couple of times, not enough to get me to stop taking it. I did not change my diet in any way. I ate what I wanted, but honestly ate very little. I exercised daily, mainly because I discovered if I worked off some of the drug I slept better at night.
All that being said, I hit my goal weight and, when I stopped taking the meds, I immediately started regaining weight. I literally was at my goal weight for one day and started gaining the next day. Even though I eased off the medication, I still picked up weight like crazy. I believe the medication damaged my metabolism (because I was eating sooooo little). Also, I never changed what I was eating, only how much....without the medication I went back to eating big portions.
When I decided in September, 2012, to get the weight off for good, I chose (notice I said CHOSE!!!) to do it without any drugs. I changed the types of foods I eat on a daily basis and I went back to exercising. It took a lot longer to reach my goal (about 18 months) but it was doable.
You have to decide what is right for YOU!!! You know yourself best and if you feel phentermine is the best option for you then I say give it a try. Continue seeing your doctor and evaluate your progress. I did not have long-term success with the drug, but you may. Good luck to you on your journey!!!!0 -
I take 37.5mg of Phen every morning. My heart does not race & I sleep well. The only side effect I have is the dry mouth which just makes me drink more water so plus for me. I stay away from caffeine because the directions & my doctor instructed me to do so.
Phen is not a cure all. Any person that goes back to eating a calorie surplus after hitting their goal weight is going to regain.0 -
The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")
You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)
Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.
I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
If someone loses weight the "right" way and then stops eating properly and gains it all back, did they gain it back because of the diet?
That makes about as much sense as saying someone gained the weight back because of Phen.
As I said on page 1, people seem to think that you can either learn to eat properly OR take Phen.
FYI: You can do BOTH.
Calorie surplus=weight gain
Calorie deficit=weight loss
It really is a math equation. Calories in and calories out. (you should already be aware of this considering you had a 2 part thread about it) But hey, you seem pretty set on it and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind.
At least additional information is available in this thread, in case there are lurkers reading it and/or individuals open to a different approach. (or need clarification if they do not understand something)
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I'm saying that Phen helps some people eat less calories and learn to accept that, thus creating a caloric deficit and losing weight.
You are missing my point.
Thing is, you have stated you have taken weight loss pills before and yet here you are with a goal to lose weight. (you stated you are here to lose weight in another thread) So, if your theory is correct, why didn't you see long-term success with that plan?
As I said earlier, you seem pretty set on this and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind. Good luck.0 -
I have never taken weight loss medications before. This is a first and last. 'I'm eating healthier, and watching what I eat. Plenty of people regain weight after doing the "right way" as people say. As you said calories in calories out but what if you have a metabolic issue that prevents your body from burning calories properly like I do. I can starve myself and still not lose. Yes, my blood pressure is being monitored every day at work by one of the nurses here.
Yes I am aware it can cause heart problems but hey so can morbid obesity. I am fortunate not to be diabetic, but am well on the road to it if I don't do something drastic. This is a short term (ONLY 3 months) start to get my body used to eating less. I'm not going to lose this weight and gorge myself afterward. Why take the medication in the first place if so. It's not a magic cure, it is a tool to assist getting someone on track to a healthy lifestyle. Anyone can gain weight after losing it. I just wanted to know from others who took it what their experiences were.
What I have gleaned is that if you don't change eating habits on it then it won't work long term. If you do develop good habits while on it then afterward it will. And guess what the reduced calorie intake wasn't causing weight loss my metabolism is screwed up. My dr.s using this to help increase my metabolism because it is being thwarted by high cortisol levels. This will jump start my weight loss so when I get off I will keep losing after I get off of it. (only if I maintain my diet) I did lose 40 pounds prior to being on these medications BCP's and SSRI with MFP. The big key here is PRIOR to these medications. I have been trying for almost a year and half to get back on track. So is it better to maintain an unhealthy weight? Or try and start a change that is leading me to healthy eating, portion control, and exercise?The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")
You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)
Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.
I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
If someone loses weight the "right" way and then stops eating properly and gains it all back, did they gain it back because of the diet?
That makes about as much sense as saying someone gained the weight back because of Phen.
As I said on page 1, people seem to think that you can either learn to eat properly OR take Phen.
FYI: You can do BOTH.
Calorie surplus=weight gain
Calorie deficit=weight loss
It really is a math equation. Calories in and calories out. (you should already be aware of this considering you had a 2 part thread about it) But hey, you seem pretty set on it and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind.
At least additional information is available in this thread, in case there are lurkers reading it and/or individuals open to a different approach. (or need clarification if they do not understand something)
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I'm saying that Phen helps some people eat less calories and learn to accept that, thus creating a caloric deficit and losing weight.
You are missing my point.
Thing is, you have stated you have taken weight loss pills before and yet here you are with a goal to lose weight. (you stated you are here to lose weight in another thread) So, if your theory is correct, why didn't you see long-term success with that plan?
As I said earlier, you seem pretty set on this and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind. Good luck.
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It's funny how nobody attacks the use of other medications, only the weight loss meds. All drugs have side effects. A drug is a drug is a drug. You decide if the benefits outweigh the risks. For me, they did.
I took Phentermine and it worked very well. It stopped my cravings for awhile which is what I needed since I was out of control. It does begin to wear off slowly and eventually the benefit from taken it goes away. My cravings have returned but not as bad as before. Despite that, I've maintained 1300 calories a day and exercise 6 days a week. I would say that I have more self control now.
When you stop taken the pill, the weight only returns when the person decides to start eating more than they should.
It is a good jump start but the lifetime of work is still there waiting.0 -
I tried it a long time ago but I couldn't sleep and it made me jittery, I gained all the weight back.0
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I started paxil when i was 17 and i was fine on it i maybe gained 10 lbs which wasn't a big deal but when my dosage was doubled over the course of a few years all of a sudden i realized i had gained 40 lbs. i tried dieting exercise and would maybe lose 5 lbs at most. i decided to go off the medication after years of being on it. Within a week i lost 8 lbs which was almost scary but it didn't seem to change much, or so i thought. i had finished school and had a lot more time on my hands and i started going to the gym 6 days a week just to have something to do for myself and to keep my spirits up since i was no longer on the meds. i lost all 40 lbs and more within a couple months. A year later i started having som issues with my anxiety and depression and went back to the doctor and begged for something that wouldn't make me gain weight and wouldn't kill my sex drive. He gave me celexa which worked better than the paxil i wasn't as tired or groggy and i felt like my libido dropped a little but not bad. Then after 3 months i gained 40 lbs again... its been almost a year and a half since i stopped all the medications and I cant seem to get my weight to go down. I had my thyroid checked and had every test ran, and nothing. I work out at least 4 times a week but usually more and i don't eat horribly. i do tend to not track it very well but a lot better than when i was thin! I got a prescription for phentermine and i took it for few days and felt like my heart was racing constantly and i decided to stop it. i lost 5 lbs in those few days but i wen through a really hard few days of depression and so tired i could barely stay awake. it scares me to try this again and take it for the 3 months and literally be a zombie after i get off of it. I don't know if any of you out there have any success stories losing the weight after stopping celexa or another SSRI... paxil was easy but this celexa has ruined my body.0
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So many people take such extremes.
Option 1: Its great and you won't have to care about eating! Hooray
Option 2: Youre an idiot and wont learn how to eat properly and will gain it all back.
Does no one consider the middle ground? That Phentermine suppresses your appetite and helps you to learn how to eat less and be OK with it? Much of our hunger, at least for the obese, is mental. If you can be on Phentermine for 2 months and re-program your brain that eating less is good and you are fulfilled, it can lead to long term success.
There doesn't have to be a rebound.
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I started paxil when i was 17 and i was fine on it i maybe gained 10 lbs which wasn't a big deal but when my dosage was doubled over the course of a few years all of a sudden i realized i had gained 40 lbs. i tried dieting exercise and would maybe lose 5 lbs at most. i decided to go off the medication after years of being on it. Within a week i lost 8 lbs which was almost scary but it didn't seem to change much, or so i thought. i had finished school and had a lot more time on my hands and i started going to the gym 6 days a week just to have something to do for myself and to keep my spirits up since i was no longer on the meds. i lost all 40 lbs and more within a couple months. A year later i started having som issues with my anxiety and depression and went back to the doctor and begged for something that wouldn't make me gain weight and wouldn't kill my sex drive. He gave me celexa which worked better than the paxil i wasn't as tired or groggy and i felt like my libido dropped a little but not bad. Then after 3 months i gained 40 lbs again... its been almost a year and a half since i stopped all the medications and I cant seem to get my weight to go down. I had my thyroid checked and had every test ran, and nothing. I work out at least 4 times a week but usually more and i don't eat horribly. i do tend to not track it very well but a lot better than when i was thin! I got a prescription for phentermine and i took it for few days and felt like my heart was racing constantly and i decided to stop it. i lost 5 lbs in those few days but i wen through a really hard few days of depression and so tired i could barely stay awake. it scares me to try this again and take it for the 3 months and literally be a zombie after i get off of it. I don't know if any of you out there have any success stories losing the weight after stopping celexa or another SSRI... paxil was easy but this celexa has ruined my body.
I have taken Paxil for 3 years. In that time, I've gained 45 lbs. I went to the doctor on July 2 to ask the doctor to please take me off the medicine. I originally started taking it a few months prior to my divorce. At 20 mg per day I feel fatigued & have a horrible brain fog. The doctor has cut my Paxil to 10mg per day & Phentermine of 37.5 mg per day for the first 30 days. I've dropped 3 lbs this first week. I feel so much better. I'm not sure if it's the lower Paxil dose or the Phen or a combination of the two. I have the energy to get out of the house & exercise for the first time in years. I will slowly taper off both medications over the next 3 months & continue on my weight loss journey. I log my food & exercise her every day so that I make sure to hit my calorie goal. It feels so nice to be lifted from that SSRI fog & I hope that I never have to go back to the medication.0 -
[/quote]The reason MFP was created was to build people up to help them lose weight, not to tear them down because you disagree with their methods. I stated I wanted positive feedback because I already am aware of the negative aspects of this medication. I have read numerous threads with personal attacks. I knew there was a lot of Hostility towards previous OP's on this topic. Having been a victim of domestic violence for 11 years I would prefer to avoid people who try to degrade me further for my choices. So I made a simple request. Instead of gleaning helpful information I feel as I have entered a political race. Judging people makes things worse not better. Does it bring joy to you or others to crush others with judgement? Some of the responses seem to be venomous. I am an adult under Dr.s supervision. I didn't make this decision lightly. I weighed the pros and cons. The two medications I am on made my eating out of control. Not being a women men might not understand how hormones can affect or even control your appetite. And not being on both an SSRI and BCP at the same time it was easy to lose 40 pounds. I am not taking phentermine long term only 3 months. I would like to lose 10 pounds a month or 2.5 pounds a week which drs agree is a healthy rate of weight loss. I will be OK if I don't lose that much. It's a desire not a necessity. I am also working hard to lose weight and am making sure that I do eat the appropriate calorie intake for the day regardless of being hungry or not (meaning I am not starving myself because I am not hungry) The jump start I was speaking about was to get my body acclimated to consuming less calories and my stomach and appetite following. I don't see it as a free for all don't eat anything. I'm making better choices and occasionally letting myself have a treat every once in a while because I know that to be successful in the long term I will have to watch my calorie intake for the rest of my life. I am not finishing my plate of food or getting seconds and thirds, I'm teaching myself it's ok to not eat everything that is served to you and to serve smaller portions. I am creating habits that will follow me after I stop this medication. I just wanted to hear from other people who had experience with this medication. If you have never been on the medication and you're not a Doctor how can you contribute to this thread?
The reason I am not seeing a specialist is that I live in a rural community of 7000 people where I have to drive over an hour to see most specialists. My Dr. is young and well educated. He reviewed with me the risks. Told me not to eat after dinner. That this is not a quick fix. I am to take my blood pressure daily, and do cardio exercises. That I will have to work hard and continue to work hard. That this will help me lose a enough to get back into a healthy pattern of eating. (which Is why I am on MFP.) It will help retrain my body into wanting less food.
It's so sad that on a site dedicated to motivating others that I feel as if I have to defend myself and my actions. I am not an anorexic who is trying to lose to much weight., I am not on a starvation diet, I am not doing this without a Dr.s Supervision. I am not trying to drop a 100 pounds over night. I am however trying to get to a little healthier weight and progress from there.
So please if I could get some helpful responses instead of wasting my time because of need to dominate conversations I would appreciate that.
You made a simple request in a public forum, which means it is open to all types of responses. If you prefer to avoid the forums, that is your choice, but please remember this is a public arena and people are on MFP for numerous reasons. (not necessarily to strictly "build people up to help them lose weight")
You have not entered "a political race," this is the internet. You asked a question and you received responses, take it or leave it. While I have never taken the medication, I can contribute to this thread because I have seen multiple people fail on it, come back and finally be willing to listen to other advice. (generally the things they specifically stated they did not want to hear when they made the decision to take the pill)
Yet, you continue to ask for "helpful responses" when you have already received some of those. If anything, you have wasted the time of others in responding to your thread and you being unwilling to listen and look at this from a different perspective.
I will leave these here for future reference:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1235566-so-you-re-new-here
If someone loses weight the "right" way and then stops eating properly and gains it all back, did they gain it back because of the diet?
That makes about as much sense as saying someone gained the weight back because of Phen.
As I said on page 1, people seem to think that you can either learn to eat properly OR take Phen.
FYI: You can do BOTH.
Calorie surplus=weight gain
Calorie deficit=weight loss
It really is a math equation. Calories in and calories out. (you should already be aware of this considering you had a 2 part thread about it) But hey, you seem pretty set on it and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind.
At least additional information is available in this thread, in case there are lurkers reading it and/or individuals open to a different approach. (or need clarification if they do not understand something)
I'm not sure what you're talking about.
I'm saying that Phen helps some people eat less calories and learn to accept that, thus creating a caloric deficit and losing weight.
You are missing my point.
Thing is, you have stated you have taken weight loss pills before and yet here you are with a goal to lose weight. (you stated you are here to lose weight in another thread) So, if your theory is correct, why didn't you see long-term success with that plan?
As I said earlier, you seem pretty set on this and nothing anybody says to you is going to change your mind. Good luck.
Because I didn't change my eating habits after going off of it.
That is my whole point. Phen doesn't make you gain weight back. Poor eating and eating too many calories does.
However, you CAN take Phen -AND- learn how to eat better at the same time. Thats what youre missing. You act as if you can do one or the other.0 -
I had taken paxil and gained a 100. I lost 60 of it working out and watching what I eat. However, I had to go back on something. My anxiety is off the charts and gained 40 pounds back. I was asking to get off it. I have tried every med out there and this works really well, except me wanting eat food like a hoover vacuum sucks dirt. Its not an option for me to get off. My dr. said the anxiety causes cortisol levels to increase making us store fat making our metabolism slow. That is why I am taking the phentermine for 3 months to rev my metabolism back up so I can be successful while on the celexa.I started paxil when i was 17 and i was fine on it i maybe gained 10 lbs which wasn't a big deal but when my dosage was doubled over the course of a few years all of a sudden i realized i had gained 40 lbs. i tried dieting exercise and would maybe lose 5 lbs at most. i decided to go off the medication after years of being on it. Within a week i lost 8 lbs which was almost scary but it didn't seem to change much, or so i thought. i had finished school and had a lot more time on my hands and i started going to the gym 6 days a week just to have something to do for myself and to keep my spirits up since i was no longer on the meds. i lost all 40 lbs and more within a couple months. A year later i started having som issues with my anxiety and depression and went back to the doctor and begged for something that wouldn't make me gain weight and wouldn't kill my sex drive. He gave me celexa which worked better than the paxil i wasn't as tired or groggy and i felt like my libido dropped a little but not bad. Then after 3 months i gained 40 lbs again... its been almost a year and a half since i stopped all the medications and I cant seem to get my weight to go down. I had my thyroid checked and had every test ran, and nothing. I work out at least 4 times a week but usually more and i don't eat horribly. i do tend to not track it very well but a lot better than when i was thin! I got a prescription for phentermine and i took it for few days and felt like my heart was racing constantly and i decided to stop it. i lost 5 lbs in those few days but i wen through a really hard few days of depression and so tired i could barely stay awake. it scares me to try this again and take it for the 3 months and literally be a zombie after i get off of it. I don't know if any of you out there have any success stories losing the weight after stopping celexa or another SSRI... paxil was easy but this celexa has ruined my body.0
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I had taken paxil and gained a 100. I lost 60 of it working out and watching what I eat. However, I had to go back on something. My anxiety is off the charts and gained 40 pounds back. I was asking to get off it. I have tried every med out there and this works really well, except me wanting eat food like a hoover vacuum sucks dirt. Its not an option for me to get off. My dr. said the anxiety causes cortisol levels to increase making us store fat making our metabolism slow. That is why I am taking the phentermine for 3 months to rev my metabolism back up so I can be successful while on the celexa.I started paxil when i was 17 and i was fine on it i maybe gained 10 lbs which wasn't a big deal but when my dosage was doubled over the course of a few years all of a sudden i realized i had gained 40 lbs. i tried dieting exercise and would maybe lose 5 lbs at most. i decided to go off the medication after years of being on it. Within a week i lost 8 lbs which was almost scary but it didn't seem to change much, or so i thought. i had finished school and had a lot more time on my hands and i started going to the gym 6 days a week just to have something to do for myself and to keep my spirits up since i was no longer on the meds. i lost all 40 lbs and more within a couple months. A year later i started having som issues with my anxiety and depression and went back to the doctor and begged for something that wouldn't make me gain weight and wouldn't kill my sex drive. He gave me celexa which worked better than the paxil i wasn't as tired or groggy and i felt like my libido dropped a little but not bad. Then after 3 months i gained 40 lbs again... its been almost a year and a half since i stopped all the medications and I cant seem to get my weight to go down. I had my thyroid checked and had every test ran, and nothing. I work out at least 4 times a week but usually more and i don't eat horribly. i do tend to not track it very well but a lot better than when i was thin! I got a prescription for phentermine and i took it for few days and felt like my heart was racing constantly and i decided to stop it. i lost 5 lbs in those few days but i wen through a really hard few days of depression and so tired i could barely stay awake. it scares me to try this again and take it for the 3 months and literally be a zombie after i get off of it. I don't know if any of you out there have any success stories losing the weight after stopping celexa or another SSRI... paxil was easy but this celexa has ruined my body.
Have you tried Xanax? it's my best friend lol0
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