Calorie deficit question

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  • bajoyba
    bajoyba Posts: 1,153 Member
    I wouldn't expect too much help from anyone going forward after the way you've behaved in this post.

    I'll reserve my future questions for the motivation/support thread. Seems like this forum should only have one thread and no chance to ask your own questions if everyone who hangs around here is just gonna direct you to the same thread. I don't mean to be rude, but it's quite ridiculous that I have to keep defending my right to seek other answers.

    You can ask whatever you want from whomever you want. But you posted in the General Diet and Weight Loss board, not the Motivation/Support board, which implies that you're looking for general diet and weight loss help and not motivation or support.

    I think most of us are quoting the sexypants link not because we're trying to be unhelpful to you or irritate you by repeating the same information, but because we have all had success with the information in the sexypants link and know that it has worked for lots and lots of other people. We're sharing that information with you because that information is our answer to your question. Unless you have a specific medical condition, there's no reason why those same guidelines won't also work for you.
  • ketoambahh
    ketoambahh Posts: 67
    It does help. My body burns about 2450 calories a day with my activity level. I set my calories at 2000 cai/day and am usually around 200-300 calories below that. Gives me leeway.

    I tend to eat foods that fill me up faster, like fat/protein and fiber rich carb sources. When I eat those delicious cakes and cookies I end up not feeling satisfied and my calories shoot way too high for my liking.

    So whether or not you're on keto, low carb, low fat or whatever...as long as you're below that maintain point even without exercise you should be okay. :)
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    Very great post.

    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Way to disregard one of the most helpful posts on MFP. Why would someone take the time to restate something that has already been stated so well when they can just give you the link? No one here owes you anything so either show some gratitude for someone's honest attempt to help you or keep it to yourself.

    I'm not disregarding it as I've already read it. I never said anyone owes me anything - you all responded on your own accord. Why should I show you gratitude? I keep saying I want others' opinions and you all keep posting the same link.

    If you don't have anything helpful to contribute or supportive to say, don't respond. You all are the ones name calling. It's uncalled for.

    Literally no one has called you names.

    "Ungrateful."
    being ungrateful

    Using an adjective to describe someone's actions is much different than "calling someone" said adjective. Name calling looks like this:

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  • Angelica0530
    Angelica0530 Posts: 43
    Read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    Very great post.

    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Way to disregard one of the most helpful posts on MFP. Why would someone take the time to restate something that has already been stated so well when they can just give you the link? No one here owes you anything so either show some gratitude for someone's honest attempt to help you or keep it to yourself.

    I'm not disregarding it as I've already read it. I never said anyone owes me anything - you all responded on your own accord. Why should I show you gratitude? I keep saying I want others' opinions and you all keep posting the same link.

    If you don't have anything helpful to contribute or supportive to say, don't respond. You all are the ones name calling. It's uncalled for.

    Literally no one has called you names.

    "Ungrateful."

    Again, no one has called you any names. Saying that you're being ungrateful is not only demonstrably true, it's an attempt to help you to change your attitude so that maybe you can get the advice you're looking for.

    This is plain rude and again, uncalled for. Because I don't find one post helpful I am "demonstrably" ungrateful? You don't need to respond as now you're making it personal and I'm just looking for answers to my specific questions so I can reach my fitness goals.

    I've thank those who have responded with helpful comments so you can hardy say I've been ungrateful, just because I didn't find helpful a post that many of you find helpful.

    I won't be responding to these off-topic comments again.
  • Angelica0530
    Angelica0530 Posts: 43
    I wouldn't expect too much help from anyone going forward after the way you've behaved in this post.

    I'll reserve my future questions for the motivation/support thread. Seems like this forum should only have one thread and no chance to ask your own questions if everyone who hangs around here is just gonna direct you to the same thread. I don't mean to be rude, but it's quite ridiculous that I have to keep defending my right to seek other answers.

    You can ask whatever you want from whomever you want. But you posted in the General Diet and Weight Loss board, not the Motivation/Support board, which implies that you're looking for general diet and weight loss help and not motivation or support.

    I think most of us are quoting the sexypants link not because we're trying to be unhelpful to you or irritate you by repeating the same information, but because we have all had success with the information in the sexypants link and know that it has worked for lots and lots of other people. We're sharing that information with you because that information is our answer to your question. Unless you have a specific medical condition, there's no reason why those same guidelines won't also work for you.

    This comment sheds some light. Unfortunately, no one who has referred me to sexypants has attested to the fact that the sexypants guidelines on the topics I was specifically asking about have helped them personally. It just came off as how dare I post this question when it has so definitively been addressed in sexypants.
  • silverteacup
    silverteacup Posts: 46 Member
    It is true that when it's all said and done it's about the number of calories you take in and how many you burn. BUT! If you are trying to seriously lose weight I would say don't waste valuable calories on anything junky. Eat healthy food that will nourish and keep you strong. I am sorry but McDonalds burgers and chocolate bars are not going to offer the kind of nourishment you need to be healthy. Once in a while might be okay but daily..you are setting yourself up for poor health. :smile:
  • mtoasty79
    mtoasty79 Posts: 18
    If none of us are telling you what you want to hear you can visit a nutritionist. Instead of telling each individual that responds that we failed to answer your question, the polite thing to do would be to scroll past it and ignore it.
  • Angelica0530
    Angelica0530 Posts: 43
    If none of us are telling you what you want to hear you can visit a nutritionist. Instead of telling each individual that responds that we failed to answer your question, the polite thing to do would be to scroll past it and ignore it.

    Well I would have liked to do that but after I explained the first time that the post was not helpful to me, everyone jumped down my throat and I really couldn't just "scroll past" it.
  • Angelica0530
    Angelica0530 Posts: 43
    It is true that when it's all said and done it's about the number of calories you take in and how many you burn. BUT! If you are trying to seriously lose weight I would say don't waste valuable calories on anything junky. Eat healthy food that will nourish and keep you strong. I am sorry but McDonalds burgers and chocolate bars are not going to offer the kind of nourishment you need to be healthy. Once in a while might be okay but daily..you are setting yourself up for poor health. :smile:

    Thank you :)
  • RabbitLost
    RabbitLost Posts: 333 Member
    Words matter. Given your assertion that you have suffered from name-calling, I would have expected to have seen several nouns used in lieu of your name or the term OP. However, as mentioned before, the one word you could cite, ungrateful, is indeed an adjective. It is a descriptor, not a substitute for a person, place or thing.

    Also, from your profile, I see you mention you are going to follow Weight Watchers and not log on here. If this is the case, then what is the purpose of your post in the first place? If it is idle curiosity, fine. But remember (and this is really important, so you might want to read this an least twice) - you posted in a public forum. Which means we can respond however we want as long as we comply with the terms of service of MFP.

    I have seen no violation of the terms of service. I think it might well be time for you to get over yourself and move along.
  • emtjmac
    emtjmac Posts: 1,320 Member
    If you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. Speaking strictly about weight loss, it doesn't matter where those calories come from. If all you eat is junk food however, you may find that you feel like crap most of the time. Most people have found success by striking a balance between nutrient dense foods and treats. Stay within your calories, exercise, and experiment with different foods. Keep an eye on the scale and adjust accordingly.
  • Angelica0530
    Angelica0530 Posts: 43
    If you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. Speaking strictly about weight loss, it doesn't matter where those calories come from. If all you eat is junk food however, you may find that you feel like crap most of the time. Most people have found success by striking a balance between nutrient dense foods and treats. Stay within your calories, exercise, and experiment with different foods. Keep an eye on the scale and adjust accordingly.

    Helpful and appreciated. Thanks.
  • Ksh1055
    Ksh1055 Posts: 248 Member
    Sorry you couldn't find what you're looking for on the MFP site, but this is directed specifically for those following a weight loss and exercise regime and are totally focused on losing weight. I also believe if you are doing Weight Watchers, they are your best source of information.

    There is an old saying "You are what you eat".
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    Very great post.

    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Maybe do more than skim. It answered your questions quite thoroughly. It would take the same amount of time (if not less) reading it and figuring things out than waiting for people to thoroughly explain exactly the same thing as the link.

    For example, you were asking about types of food and if, basically, calories were just calories.

    From the link:
    "1. Eat the appropriate caloric (and macronutrient) intake for your goals and track intake accurately. I think eating mostly nutrient dense and whole foods while still allowing some "treats" is a reasonable starting point/guideline. "

    "An aside on food selection

    I am a firm believer in moderation. However, if you're the type that can't have a serving of potato chips without eating two bags of potato chips then it stands to reason that you may not be able to practice moderation with potato chips. I concede that for some people, elimination of some things, even if temporary, could be a viable short term strategy while you learn to apply moderation. That being said, I think "most" people will do very well using a food selection strategy where somewhere around 80% of their diet consists of whole and nutrient dense foods with the other 20% consisting of whatever you prefer.

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/817188-iifym

    Yes, health is important and you should be looking to consume a lot of nutrient dense foods in your diet. But this doesn't mean you can't also have a pop tart or some ice cream. Going from fat to not fat is very likely to significantly improve your health. "

    There's more of course. But up to you to decide to actually put in a little effort.
  • willrun4bagels
    willrun4bagels Posts: 838 Member
    Methinks OP is just really hangry...

    Here's some advice. Stop skimming over the useful links posted by others that have given their time to answer your question, and put what you've read into practice and see how it works for yourself. No one called you any names. "Ungrateful" is an adjective...
  • emtjmac
    emtjmac Posts: 1,320 Member
    If you burn more calories than you consume, you will lose weight. Speaking strictly about weight loss, it doesn't matter where those calories come from. If all you eat is junk food however, you may find that you feel like crap most of the time. Most people have found success by striking a balance between nutrient dense foods and treats. Stay within your calories, exercise, and experiment with different foods. Keep an eye on the scale and adjust accordingly.

    Helpful and appreciated. Thanks.

    I do care about people finding success.
  • Angelica0530
    Angelica0530 Posts: 43
    Words matter. Given your assertion that you have suffered from name-calling, I would have expected to have seen several nouns used in lieu of your name or the term OP. However, as mentioned before, the one word you could cite, ungrateful, is indeed an adjective. It is a descriptor, not a substitute for a person, place or thing.

    Also, from your profile, I see you mention you are going to follow Weight Watchers and not log on here. If this is the case, then what is the purpose of your post in the first place? If it is idle curiosity, fine. But remember (and this is really important, so you might want to read this an least twice) - you posted in a public forum. Which means we can respond however we want as long as we comply with the terms of service of MFP.

    I have seen no violation of the terms of service. I think it might well be time for you to get over yourself and move along.

    I would point out that being called ungrateful and saying my actions are ungrateful are two different things. Just like being called stupid and being told your actions are stupid. I was being called ungrateful, although the poster may have intended to characterize my actions as such instead.

    The purpose of my post is I want to know if I use up a lot of WW points on sweets will it affect my weight loss rate even if I don't use up all my allotted points. You can respond however you want, but that doesn't mean you need to be rude. I guess you can be rude, it would just be the decent thing to do to not be is all.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
    Another OP who has instantly destroyed her reputation. Best of luck.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    Very great post.

    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Actually, that link is very valuable. The information it provides is how I've lost all of my weight so far.

    It also contains the answer to your question: "Eat the appropriate caloric (and macronutrient) intake for your goals and track intake accurately. I think eating mostly nutrient dense and whole foods while still allowing some "treats" is a reasonable starting point/guideline."

    In other words, to lose weight, you need to eat at the appropriate calorie deficit. To meet your body's nutritional requirements, aim for a balanced diet, and don't be afraid to leave some room for treats. That link will also tell you exactly how to determine what your body's caloric and nutritional requirements are for your goals.

    Actually, that doesn't answer my question of whether certain foods will slow down weight loss despite still having a calorie deficit. Also it's just one person's opinion, as he admits, and I'm interested in getting multiple opinions and perhaps even personal experience hence why I posted on this FORUM.

    If this thread annoys you so much because part of the questions raised here were very summarily answered in that one post, you don't have to open it.

    You'll find the link to be one of the most suggested to read amongst the community because it contains the info you were looking for and more. The ETP group (which Sidesteel is part of) has actually been recognized and recommended by MFP themselves. It's actually stickied on the Getting Started forum as well.

    But for more info/links:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1214490-the-wisdom-of-trogalicious?page=1#posts-19000763

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/05/24/undiet-your-diet/

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1122891-9-reasons-fat-loss-is-always-slower-than-you-d-like

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1105036-article-on-flexible-dieting-by-armi-legge?page=1#posts-17068746

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/the-myth-of-good-and-bad-foods-by-eric-helms-588801
  • Angelica0530
    Angelica0530 Posts: 43
    If you're not eating healthy and following the guidelines/instructions given you, you will NOT lose any significant weight. You can eat junk foods all day and expect a miracle. It's impossible, to say nothing about having to start and continue an exercise routine at least 5 days a week.

    It just sounds to me like you want everyone to agree with your choices and those who are seriously committed to losing weight will not agree.

    . . . . and why you feel the need to argue and denigrate others online shows a total lack of commitment/dedication to change your eating habits as instructed, while some us have that motivation.

    Goodness. I'm not looking for everyone to agree with my choices. I was merely asking a hypothetical and looking for personal experience. It's a little presumptuous of you to characterize my commitment when you don't really know anything about what I've been doing or eating. I didn't say anywhere that all I do is eat junkfood all day and I want someone to tell me that it's OK.
  • Ksh1055
    Ksh1055 Posts: 248 Member
    The bottom line is YES eating junk food will slow down your weight loss or even cause a gain. Eating the low carb/high protein foods using portion control and drinking at least 64 ounces of water a day is the only way you'll lose any weight. Along with that you must also start an exercise regime at least 5 days a week.

    Those that say they eat cake, cookies, donuts, chocolate every day haven't seemed to have lost any significant weight - so why listen to them.

    Contact a nutritionist and ask a professional what you should and should not be eating.:smile:
  • George_Baileys_Ghost
    George_Baileys_Ghost Posts: 1,524 Member
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  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    If none of us are telling you what you want to hear you can visit a nutritionist. Instead of telling each individual that responds that we failed to answer your question, the polite thing to do would be to scroll past it and ignore it.

    QFT

    WTF

    :angry:
  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    Read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    Very great post.

    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Actually, that link is very valuable. The information it provides is how I've lost all of my weight so far.

    It also contains the answer to your question: "Eat the appropriate caloric (and macronutrient) intake for your goals and track intake accurately. I think eating mostly nutrient dense and whole foods while still allowing some "treats" is a reasonable starting point/guideline."

    In other words, to lose weight, you need to eat at the appropriate calorie deficit. To meet your body's nutritional requirements, aim for a balanced diet, and don't be afraid to leave some room for treats. That link will also tell you exactly how to determine what your body's caloric and nutritional requirements are for your goals.

    Actually, that doesn't answer my question of whether certain foods will slow down weight loss despite still having a calorie deficit. Also it's just one person's opinion, as he admits, and I'm interested in getting multiple opinions and perhaps even personal experience hence why I posted on this FORUM.

    If this thread annoys you so much because part of the questions raised here were very summarily answered in that one post, you don't have to open it.

    You'll find the link to be one of the most suggested to read amongst the community because it contains the info you were looking for and more. The ETP group (which Sidesteel is part of) has actually been recognized and recommended by MFP themselves. It's actually stickied on the Getting Started forum as well.

    But for more info/links:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1214490-the-wisdom-of-trogalicious?page=1#posts-19000763

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/05/24/undiet-your-diet/

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1122891-9-reasons-fat-loss-is-always-slower-than-you-d-like

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1105036-article-on-flexible-dieting-by-armi-legge?page=1#posts-17068746

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/the-myth-of-good-and-bad-foods-by-eric-helms-588801

    According to OP, why would you post links instead of just taking the time to answer the question? Seriously, the not-rude thing to do would've been to paraphrase each one of the links in your own words, albeit giving the exact same advice, and then bow several times as you walk backwards out of the room.
  • Angelica0530
    Angelica0530 Posts: 43
    Well I've had enough for tonight so thank you to those who were helpful.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Words matter. Given your assertion that you have suffered from name-calling, I would have expected to have seen several nouns used in lieu of your name or the term OP. However, as mentioned before, the one word you could cite, ungrateful, is indeed an adjective. It is a descriptor, not a substitute for a person, place or thing.

    Also, from your profile, I see you mention you are going to follow Weight Watchers and not log on here. If this is the case, then what is the purpose of your post in the first place? If it is idle curiosity, fine. But remember (and this is really important, so you might want to read this an least twice) - you posted in a public forum. Which means we can respond however we want as long as we comply with the terms of service of MFP.

    I have seen no violation of the terms of service. I think it might well be time for you to get over yourself and move along.

    I would point out that being called ungrateful and saying my actions are ungrateful are two different things. Just like being called stupid and being told your actions are stupid. I was being called ungrateful, although the poster may have intended to characterize my actions as such instead.

    The purpose of my post is I want to know if I use up a lot of WW points on sweets will it affect my weight loss rate even if I don't use up all my allotted points. You can respond however you want, but that doesn't mean you need to be rude. I guess you can be rude, it would just be the decent thing to do to not be is all.

    Umm...You want to know about WW points you should probably ask people on the WW site. It doesn't make sense to try to figure out one method of weight loss to another when they don't use the same set up, tools, etc.
  • RabbitLost
    RabbitLost Posts: 333 Member
    Well I've had enough for tonight so thank you to those who were helpful.

    You are quite welcome. Anytime now.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    The bottom line is YES eating junk food will slow down your weight loss or even cause a gain. Eating the low carb/high protein foods using portion control and drinking at least 64 ounces of water a day is the only way you'll lose any weight. Along with that you must also start an exercise regime at least 5 days a week.

    Those that say they eat cake, cookies, donuts, chocolate every day haven't seemed to have lost any significant weight - so why listen to them.

    Contact a nutritionist and ask a professional what you should and should not be eating.:smile:
    There are people who've lost over 100 pounds who say that. I say it and I'm losing 3.5 pounds a week.

    A deficit is a deficit.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Read this: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants

    Very great post.

    I skimmed it. Didn't see anything that answered my specific questions. Besides, if you or someone else will take the time to post this link, just take the time to answer my specific question, huh?

    Actually, that link is very valuable. The information it provides is how I've lost all of my weight so far.

    It also contains the answer to your question: "Eat the appropriate caloric (and macronutrient) intake for your goals and track intake accurately. I think eating mostly nutrient dense and whole foods while still allowing some "treats" is a reasonable starting point/guideline."

    In other words, to lose weight, you need to eat at the appropriate calorie deficit. To meet your body's nutritional requirements, aim for a balanced diet, and don't be afraid to leave some room for treats. That link will also tell you exactly how to determine what your body's caloric and nutritional requirements are for your goals.

    Actually, that doesn't answer my question of whether certain foods will slow down weight loss despite still having a calorie deficit. Also it's just one person's opinion, as he admits, and I'm interested in getting multiple opinions and perhaps even personal experience hence why I posted on this FORUM.

    If this thread annoys you so much because part of the questions raised here were very summarily answered in that one post, you don't have to open it.

    You'll find the link to be one of the most suggested to read amongst the community because it contains the info you were looking for and more. The ETP group (which Sidesteel is part of) has actually been recognized and recommended by MFP themselves. It's actually stickied on the Getting Started forum as well.

    But for more info/links:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1214490-the-wisdom-of-trogalicious?page=1#posts-19000763

    http://body-improvements.com/2013/05/24/undiet-your-diet/

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1122891-9-reasons-fat-loss-is-always-slower-than-you-d-like

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/why-big-caloric-deficits-and-lots-of-activity-can-hurt-fat-loss.html

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1105036-article-on-flexible-dieting-by-armi-legge?page=1#posts-17068746

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/ihad/view/the-myth-of-good-and-bad-foods-by-eric-helms-588801

    According to OP, why would you post links instead of just taking the time to answer the question? Seriously, the not-rude thing to do would've been to paraphrase each one of the links in your own words, albeit giving the exact same advice, and then bow several times as you walk backwards out of the room.

    In all honesty, it's more for the lurkers.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    The bottom line is YES eating junk food will slow down your weight loss or even cause a gain. Eating the low carb/high protein foods using portion control and drinking at least 64 ounces of water a day is the only way you'll lose any weight. Along with that you must also start an exercise regime at least 5 days a week.

    Those that say they eat cake, cookies, donuts, chocolate every day haven't seemed to have lost any significant weight - so why listen to them.

    Contact a nutritionist and ask a professional what you should and should not be eating.:smile:
    There are people who've lost over 100 pounds who say that. I say it and I'm losing 3.5 pounds a week.

    A deficit is a deficit.

    Magerum and Trogalicious lost 100+lbs while eating sweets. Ed (an MFP mod) lost over 300lbs and still eats sweets and such. But I guess they were doing it wrong? I'm down 55lbs myself but I guess that doesn't count, right? *eats some chocolate*

    :huh:

    :laugh:

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