Myth About Carbs....Help!
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So iv added lifting to my boot camp training and heard I need to eat a good amount of carbs for my lifting..But before iv always been told that carbs are the enemy....what's the truth on carbs...and why should I be eating well over 100 carbs a day when iv always tried to keep them down??
Any insight on this would be so helpful!!!
PS....iv heard the term CARB LOADING used for my weight training...what are some good carbs for doing that & why is that necessary.
Any insight on this would be so helpful!!!
PS....iv heard the term CARB LOADING used for my weight training...what are some good carbs for doing that & why is that necessary.
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Carbs = energy. I use MFP's protein & fiber goals as minimums and ignore carbs & fat. It will take trial & error to find what works for you.0
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Never heard of added carbs needed for weightlifting and DEFINITELY have not heard of carb loading for weight lifting. Carb Loading is intended for endurance athletes to help them increase their glycogen stores so that they don't run out of glycogen during long endurance sessions.
If you are doing a lot of cardio, you might need to up your carbs. I normally associate boot camp with high intensity work, so it's possible you would benefit. But I'm confused by the references to "lifting."0 -
What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.0 -
Carbs are yummy... That's not a myth, and all I need to know!0
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So iv added lifting to my boot camp training and heard I need to eat a good amount of carbs for my lifting..But before iv always been told that carbs are the enemy....what's the truth on carbs...and why should I be eating well over 100 carbs a day when iv always tried to keep them down??
Any insight on this would be so helpful!!!
PS....iv heard the term CARB LOADING used for my weight training...what are some good carbs for doing that & why is that necessary.
Its all a load of bull****. The USA is in an anti carb mindset at this moment. When i was younger it was all about Susan powder and stop the insanity witch was eat as many carbs as you want just avoid all fats. I have seen many things come and go in the diet world but in the end the only thing that matters is calories in and calories out0 -
I have my boot camp and then i will do lifting weights after..hence the term LIFTING ;-). Each day is a different zone of body parts (leg day, chest & triceps etc)...but i heard the carb loading is good for high intensity excercise like my boot camp.
i just am having a hard time getting out of the mindset of eating 100+ carbs a day. if i do have alot of carbs im trying to have them come from more COMPLEX carb foods like whole grains and stuff but i just wanted to see if eating 100+ carbs a day will hinder my weight loss.
my macors are 1800 calories per day (which took me awhileee to get over the fact its ok to eat that much lol)
with 50% protein
30% carbs
20% fat0 -
For exercise, quality carbs beforehand then protein afterward.
Pick complex carbs high in fiber and the energy from said carbs will last longer. Protein helps afterwards for when your muscles are recovering. Put fat into the mix and you'll feel fuller longer.
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What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.
No no arguments needed lol we are all here for the same thing and should be gathering around singing koombayah hahaha jk jk...no but seriously im just trying to gain information in a world where health knowledge is always seeming to contradict itself. i definitely eat almost 200g of protein a day..i keep my protein high and attempt to have a 3500 calorie/week deficit to try for loosing a pound a week. i havent seen the scale move in a few weeks so i thought maybe i wasnt eating enough..so i upped my calories to 1800...then i started seeing i was intaking quite a few carbs and just wanted to see if maybe that was what was keeping my scale stagnant.
PS....i appreciate all your guys input (^_^)0 -
^ This. Give it another 10 years or so, and some crackpot will come up with a low-protein diet. (And all the fad dieters will be buying "low-protein bread" and other such nonsense).Its all a load of bull****. The USA is in an anti carb mindset at this moment. When i was younger it was all about Susan powder and stop the insanity witch was eat as many carbs as you want just avoid all fats. I have seen many things come and go in the diet world but in the end the only thing that matters is calories in and calories out0 -
What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.
No no arguments needed lol we are all here for the same thing and should be gathering around singing koombayah hahaha jk jk...no but seriously im just trying to gain information in a world where health knowledge is always seeming to contradict itself. i definitely eat almost 200g of protein a day..i keep my protein high and attempt to have a 3500 calorie/week deficit to try for loosing a pound a week. i havent seen the scale move in a few weeks so i thought maybe i wasnt eating enough..so i upped my calories to 1800...then i started seeing i was intaking quite a few carbs and just wanted to see if maybe that was what was keeping my scale stagnant.
PS....i appreciate all your guys input (^_^)
200g of protein is almost certainly overkill for you. It probably won't hurt, but it's also not needed. You could also go for a higher weekly deficit and be just fine - 1 lb/week seems pretty conservative to me. As for your carb macro, I would set it based on how you like to eat and how you feel. I don't see any harm in doing some self-experimentation with your macros.0 -
^ This. Give it another 10 years or so, and some crackpot will come up with a low-protein diet. (And all the fad dieters will be buying "low-protein bread" and other such nonsense).Its all a load of bull****. The USA is in an anti carb mindset at this moment. When i was younger it was all about Susan powder and stop the insanity witch was eat as many carbs as you want just avoid all fats. I have seen many things come and go in the diet world but in the end the only thing that matters is calories in and calories out
hahahhaaha i know!!! thats why its so hard to get valid info cuz its always changing with whoever wants to come up with a new fad or "truth" about things. too hard to keep up with all this crap floating around lol0 -
If you were doing a planned bulking, where you were trying to build muscle, I can see increasing your carb intake intentionally.
That said, there's no reason to avoid them apart from a medical condition and/or personal preferences. I find I have more energy when I don't limit my carbs too much, which helps me during my lifting routines.0 -
^ This. Give it another 10 years or so, and some crackpot will come up with a low-protein diet. (And all the fad dieters will be buying "low-protein bread" and other such nonsense).Its all a load of bull****. The USA is in an anti carb mindset at this moment. When i was younger it was all about Susan powder and stop the insanity witch was eat as many carbs as you want just avoid all fats. I have seen many things come and go in the diet world but in the end the only thing that matters is calories in and calories out
hahahhaaha i know!!! thats why its so hard to get valid info cuz its always changing with whoever wants to come up with a new fad or "truth" about things. too hard to keep up with all this crap floating around lol
Valid info is common sense. Calories in calories out. A runner will burn a lot more calories than an average person. The longest I have run is 13 miles but I ate what ever the hell I wanted to.0 -
With "fad" diets come the franken-food that comes with it. The trick is to lose weight with food is to eat mostly foods that you can read and understand the ingredients of. Some know more than others, but the idea is the same. Outside aisles are your best friends.
But I agree with 200g of protein being high. Protein intake normally should be about 0.5-0.8 out of 1 per pound of body weight.
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Most people here will tell you that you can eat the way you want and still lose weight as long as you stay under your calorie goal. I'm sure that is entirely true for the majority of people. For ME, PERSONALLY, I try to keep my carbs under 90g per day and most days are lower. This is for two reasons: one, I've just found that it's easier for me to lose weight when I stay under 90g. Two, the more carbs I eat the more I want and most of the stuff I might end up overindulging on is high carb sweet or salty snacks. If I just avoid them it's a lot easier for me to stay under my calorie goals on a regular basis. Again, this is just me and YMMV. I do think that 200g of protein is quite a lot but I'm short and don't have much more to lose so I probably don't eat nearly as many calories as you do, either.What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.
No no arguments needed lol we are all here for the same thing and should be gathering around singing koombayah hahaha jk jk...no but seriously im just trying to gain information in a world where health knowledge is always seeming to contradict itself. i definitely eat almost 200g of protein a day..i keep my protein high and attempt to have a 3500 calorie/week deficit to try for loosing a pound a week. i havent seen the scale move in a few weeks so i thought maybe i wasnt eating enough..so i upped my calories to 1800...then i started seeing i was intaking quite a few carbs and just wanted to see if maybe that was what was keeping my scale stagnant.
PS....i appreciate all your guys input (^_^)
I'd say to just go ahead and play around with your macros and see what works for you. If you increase your carbs and find that your weight loss stalls then lower them.0 -
Read the Sexypants post: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypantsthats why its so hard to get valid info cuz its always changing with whoever wants to come up with a new fad or "truth" about things. too hard to keep up with all this crap floating around.0 -
What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.
No no arguments needed lol we are all here for the same thing and should be gathering around singing koombayah hahaha jk jk...no but seriously im just trying to gain information in a world where health knowledge is always seeming to contradict itself. i definitely eat almost 200g of protein a day..i keep my protein high and attempt to have a 3500 calorie/week deficit to try for loosing a pound a week. i havent seen the scale move in a few weeks so i thought maybe i wasnt eating enough..so i upped my calories to 1800...then i started seeing i was intaking quite a few carbs and just wanted to see if maybe that was what was keeping my scale stagnant.
PS....i appreciate all your guys input (^_^)
You have 158 lbs to lose but aren't losing weight eating less than 1800 calories a day? That's very strange.
Do you use a food scale? If not, you are overestimating how many calories you are consuming which is why you aren't losing weight.
Also, 200 g of protein a day is a bit excessive. There's no need to be consuming that much protein. Aim for 130-160 g instead.0 -
i just am having a hard time getting out of the mindset of eating 100+ carbs a day. if i do have alot of carbs im trying to have them come from more COMPLEX carb foods like whole grains and stuff but i just wanted to see if eating 100+ carbs a day will hinder my weight loss.
My two cents:
I lost all my weight eating 200+ grams of carbs a day (55% of my total). For most people, macro distribution is a matter of personal preferece and will not impact weight loss. For most people calories in/out is all that matters.0 -
^ This. Give it another 10 years or so, and some crackpot will come up with a low-protein diet. (And all the fad dieters will be buying "low-protein bread" and other such nonsense).Its all a load of bull****. The USA is in an anti carb mindset at this moment. When i was younger it was all about Susan powder and stop the insanity witch was eat as many carbs as you want just avoid all fats. I have seen many things come and go in the diet world but in the end the only thing that matters is calories in and calories out
The low protein trend has already begun with this whole 80/10/10 thing. Soon industries will be catching on and creating the carbiest products they can0 -
^ This. Give it another 10 years or so, and some crackpot will come up with a low-protein diet. (And all the fad dieters will be buying "low-protein bread" and other such nonsense).Its all a load of bull****. The USA is in an anti carb mindset at this moment. When i was younger it was all about Susan powder and stop the insanity witch was eat as many carbs as you want just avoid all fats. I have seen many things come and go in the diet world but in the end the only thing that matters is calories in and calories out
The low protein trend has already begun with this whole 80/10/10 thing. Soon industries will be catching on and creating the carbiest products they can
Who knows in another 10 years wonder-bread and Margarine will be back in style. I still wont eat it Butter tastes better
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What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.
No no arguments needed lol we are all here for the same thing and should be gathering around singing koombayah hahaha jk jk...no but seriously im just trying to gain information in a world where health knowledge is always seeming to contradict itself. i definitely eat almost 200g of protein a day..i keep my protein high and attempt to have a 3500 calorie/week deficit to try for loosing a pound a week. i havent seen the scale move in a few weeks so i thought maybe i wasnt eating enough..so i upped my calories to 1800...then i started seeing i was intaking quite a few carbs and just wanted to see if maybe that was what was keeping my scale stagnant.
PS....i appreciate all your guys input (^_^)
You have 158 lbs to lose but aren't losing weight eating less than 1800 calories a day? That's very strange.
Do you use a food scale? If not, you are overestimating how many calories you are consuming which is why you aren't losing weight.
Also, 200 g of protein a day is a bit excessive. There's no need to be consuming that much protein. Aim for 130-160 g instead.
Yah..i use a food scale and watch my portions..i just started on the 1800 calorie this week. i was only eating like 1200 or less and working out and i think thats why i didnt loose any weight??? idk thats why im really trying more calories to keep my body out of starvation mode i guess because its pretty discouraging. my body wasnt getting ENOUGH...even tho MFP told me i should be eating 1500 calories...i wouldnt be too too hungry and was on the wayyy too low end of the calorie scale. so i think THAT was my problem. but check out my diary and let me know if you see any things that stand out that could be a culprit of my stagnant scale :-)
I used scoobys calculator to determine my metobolic rate:
Currently my BMR is 2000 cal/day= 14,000 calories/week
I work out 5 times a week @ 400 cal per day= 2,000 calories burned/week
Calories In: 12,600 calories/week
Calories Out: 16,000 Calories/week
A Deficit of 3,400 Calories which is almost 1lb
...Did i do all that right??? lol if i double my calorie OUT would that mean i would loose 2lb/week??
Did i do all this right??0 -
What the actual eff...??
^ This. Give it another 10 years or so, and some crackpot will come up with a low-protein diet. (And all the fad dieters will be buying "low-protein bread" and other such nonsense).Its all a load of bull****. The USA is in an anti carb mindset at this moment. When i was younger it was all about Susan powder and stop the insanity witch was eat as many carbs as you want just avoid all fats. I have seen many things come and go in the diet world but in the end the only thing that matters is calories in and calories out
The low protein trend has already begun with this whole 80/10/10 thing. Soon industries will be catching on and creating the carbiest products they can
I'd never heard of that before. I wish there were a way to un-Google that. People are dumb.0 -
So iv added lifting to my boot camp training and heard I need to eat a good amount of carbs for my lifting..But before iv always been told that carbs are the enemy....what's the truth on carbs...and why should I be eating well over 100 carbs a day when iv always tried to keep them down??
Any insight on this would be so helpful!!!
PS....iv heard the term CARB LOADING used for my weight training...what are some good carbs for doing that & why is that necessary.
I find your lack of faith in carbs disturbing.
You must unlearn what you have learned.0 -
What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.
No no arguments needed lol we are all here for the same thing and should be gathering around singing koombayah hahaha jk jk...no but seriously im just trying to gain information in a world where health knowledge is always seeming to contradict itself. i definitely eat almost 200g of protein a day..i keep my protein high and attempt to have a 3500 calorie/week deficit to try for loosing a pound a week. i havent seen the scale move in a few weeks so i thought maybe i wasnt eating enough..so i upped my calories to 1800...then i started seeing i was intaking quite a few carbs and just wanted to see if maybe that was what was keeping my scale stagnant.
PS....i appreciate all your guys input (^_^)
You have 158 lbs to lose but aren't losing weight eating less than 1800 calories a day? That's very strange.
Do you use a food scale? If not, you are overestimating how many calories you are consuming which is why you aren't losing weight.
Also, 200 g of protein a day is a bit excessive. There's no need to be consuming that much protein. Aim for 130-160 g instead.
Yah..i use a food scale and watch my portions..i just started on the 1800 calorie this week. i was only eating like 1200 or less and working out and i think thats why i didnt loose any weight??? idk thats why im really trying more calories to keep my body out of starvation mode i guess because its pretty discouraging. my body wasnt getting ENOUGH...even tho MFP told me i should be eating 1500 calories...i wouldnt be too too hungry and was on the wayyy too low end of the calorie scale. so i think THAT was my problem. but check out my diary and let me know if you see any things that stand out that could be a culprit of my stagnant scale :-)
I used scoobys calculator to determine my metobolic rate:
Currently my BMR is 2000 cal/day= 14,000 calories/week
I work out 5 times a week @ 400 cal per day= 2,000 calories burned/week
Calories In: 12,600 calories/week
Calories Out: 16,000 Calories/week
A Deficit of 3,400 Calories which is almost 1lb
...Did i do all that right??? lol if i double my calorie OUT would that mean i would loose 2lb/week??
Did i do all this right??
Starvation mode does not exist. Unless you are talking about when I wait to long to eat and I am starving and I want to eat everything in site0 -
What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.
No no arguments needed lol we are all here for the same thing and should be gathering around singing koombayah hahaha jk jk...no but seriously im just trying to gain information in a world where health knowledge is always seeming to contradict itself. i definitely eat almost 200g of protein a day..i keep my protein high and attempt to have a 3500 calorie/week deficit to try for loosing a pound a week. i havent seen the scale move in a few weeks so i thought maybe i wasnt eating enough..so i upped my calories to 1800...then i started seeing i was intaking quite a few carbs and just wanted to see if maybe that was what was keeping my scale stagnant.
PS....i appreciate all your guys input (^_^)
You have 158 lbs to lose but aren't losing weight eating less than 1800 calories a day? That's very strange.
Do you use a food scale? If not, you are overestimating how many calories you are consuming which is why you aren't losing weight.
Also, 200 g of protein a day is a bit excessive. There's no need to be consuming that much protein. Aim for 130-160 g instead.
Yah..i use a food scale and watch my portions..i just started on the 1800 calorie this week. i was only eating like 1200 or less and working out and i think thats why i didnt loose any weight??? idk thats why im really trying more calories to keep my body out of starvation mode i guess because its pretty discouraging. my body wasnt getting ENOUGH...even tho MFP told me i should be eating 1500 calories...i wouldnt be too too hungry and was on the wayyy too low end of the calorie scale. so i think THAT was my problem. but check out my diary and let me know if you see any things that stand out that could be a culprit of my stagnant scale :-)
I used scoobys calculator to determine my metobolic rate:
Currently my BMR is 2000 cal/day= 14,000 calories/week
I work out 5 times a week @ 400 cal per day= 2,000 calories burned/week
Calories In: 12,600 calories/week
Calories Out: 16,000 Calories/week
A Deficit of 3,400 Calories which is almost 1lb
...Did i do all that right??? lol if i double my calorie OUT would that mean i would loose 2lb/week??
Did i do all this right??
Perfect, glad you are using a food scale! I didn't know you were eating so few calories! Definitely hit at least 1200 a day. Have you lost any weight this week eating 1800? If not, maybe drop down to 1600. It takes some time to figure out what works for your body. I've had to play around with my caloric intake and macros a lot.
I'm honestly not 100% sure that is correct (as I've never done the math myself) but to me, it sounds like it is!!
One more question… are you using a heart rate monitor to determine calories burned during your workouts? Or are you going off what MFP or the machine tells you? I ask because both MFP and the machines significantly overestimate calories burned which plays a big role in peoples lack of weight loss.0 -
What you're saying is a little backward. If you're lifting to build muscle you'd want to eat more protein. Carb loading is for marathon runners, triathletes and those who participate in endurance sports, not for weight lifters. Really, if you're not intending to be a body builder, I wouldn't worry too much about eating a special way just because you're doing a little weight lifting.
I'm not even going to get into the "carbs are the enemy" thing as it'll just turn this thread into another argument.
No no arguments needed lol we are all here for the same thing and should be gathering around singing koombayah hahaha jk jk...no but seriously im just trying to gain information in a world where health knowledge is always seeming to contradict itself. i definitely eat almost 200g of protein a day..i keep my protein high and attempt to have a 3500 calorie/week deficit to try for loosing a pound a week. i havent seen the scale move in a few weeks so i thought maybe i wasnt eating enough..so i upped my calories to 1800...then i started seeing i was intaking quite a few carbs and just wanted to see if maybe that was what was keeping my scale stagnant.
PS....i appreciate all your guys input (^_^)
You have 158 lbs to lose but aren't losing weight eating less than 1800 calories a day? That's very strange.
Do you use a food scale? If not, you are overestimating how many calories you are consuming which is why you aren't losing weight.
Also, 200 g of protein a day is a bit excessive. There's no need to be consuming that much protein. Aim for 130-160 g instead.
Yah..i use a food scale and watch my portions..i just started on the 1800 calorie this week. i was only eating like 1200 or less and working out and i think thats why i didnt loose any weight??? idk thats why im really trying more calories to keep my body out of starvation mode i guess because its pretty discouraging. my body wasnt getting ENOUGH...even tho MFP told me i should be eating 1500 calories...i wouldnt be too too hungry and was on the wayyy too low end of the calorie scale. so i think THAT was my problem. but check out my diary and let me know if you see any things that stand out that could be a culprit of my stagnant scale :-)
I used scoobys calculator to determine my metobolic rate:
Currently my BMR is 2000 cal/day= 14,000 calories/week
I work out 5 times a week @ 400 cal per day= 2,000 calories burned/week
Calories In: 12,600 calories/week
Calories Out: 16,000 Calories/week
A Deficit of 3,400 Calories which is almost 1lb
...Did i do all that right??? lol if i double my calorie OUT would that mean i would loose 2lb/week??
Did i do all this right??
Perfect, glad you are using a food scale! I didn't know you were eating so few calories! Definitely hit at least 1200 a day. Have you lost any weight this week eating 1800? If not, maybe drop down to 1600. It takes some time to figure out what works for your body. I've had to play around with my caloric intake and macros a lot.
I'm honestly not 100% sure that is correct (as I've never done the math myself) but to me, it sounds like it is!!
One more question… are you using a heart rate monitor to determine calories burned during your workouts? Or are you going off what MFP or the machine tells you? I ask because both MFP and the machines significantly overestimate calories burned which plays a big role in peoples lack of weight loss.
I actually have my weekly weigh in tonight at boot camp so im hoping the scale moved a bit and my change in calories helped :-) ill keep you posted on that..to be honest i feel good this week so im not gonna let the number on the scale discourage me! but im definitely going to see how that number works out for me..if not ill try going down to 1600, but you are totally right i just need to try different numbers and see how i react.
but yupppp i have my polar HRM. i love it cuz you are spot on with that one...MFP tried to say one time 30 mins of something i did burned 700+ calories and my HRM only said like 500..so i go by my Polar, more accurate. but thanks girl for your positive words of wisdom...greatly appreciate the help!!
To everyone else who lended an ear to listen to my noob ask probably redundant questions haha & your time to give me some tips as well...much thanks & love to all yall too..and good luck to everyone on their fit body journey!0
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