Gary Taubes and his flawed logic

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This Gary Taubes guy is really making me mad with his flawed logic which, I think, steps over the border into dishonesty.

Gary Taubes, the science writer for the New York Times, is supposedly well-regarded and not a crackpot. But he out-and-out claims that the single nutrient, carbohydrates, is the cause of obesity and severely limiting carbs is the way to lose weight. He can make your eyes glaze over with hours of slides showing this and that research over history and discussing some poor culture where people are overweight subsisting on carbs and some other richer culture where people are thinner with less carbs. But he makes what I consider a fatal flaw for an educated person of science. He simply ignores data which doesn't fit his thesis. Here is a fact: the obesity rate in Japan is about 3%. The obesity rate in the U.S. is over 30% (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity). Yet the basic Japanese diet is very very high carbohydrate, with multiple servings of white rice per day. Plus Japanese have about the highest lifespans in the world. Until Taubes and the low-carbers fit this into their overall diet theory I can't ignore the contradiction.

Taubes was asked about this and you can see the transcript of the interview here: http://www.kpbs.org/news/2011/jan/04/what-does-food-have-do-being-fat/. Click on "read transcript" and do a search for "Japan."

Reading the transcript there, where he talks about the Japanese, I have to point out these statements of his which are plain incorrect:

1. Taubes: "So the more refined a carbohydrate is, like white rice, we digest quicker than brown rice because brown rice still has the fiber and the shell, the carbs are bound up in such a way that they take longer to digest. So far the first thing is the Asians didn't eat in Asian they didn't eat refined, you know the ones who are eating really high carb diets weren't eating white rice, they weren't eating highly refined wheat. So they're -- you know the way the nutritionists would say, the carbs they were eating had a lower glycemic index, it wasn't digested as quickly, and that resulted in a more measured insulin response."

That is so far off the mark as to make me wonder if Taubes is deliberately twisting reality to fit his theories. What he says there is just ridiculous. By FAR the most common rice eaten in Japan, where the obesity rate is 3.2% (compared to over 30% in the U.S.) is refined white rice. He is 100% mistaken on that. Typical Japanese will eat multiple portions of rice a day and it is almost universally white rice. White rice is what is served in restaurants, in box lunches and at home. Brown rice (gen'mai) is available if you look for it, but is not common at all. And when Japanese eat bread it is also almost always white bread. Taubes is definitely wrong about that point. Completely off-base. This fallacy alone makes me skeptical about his entire train of logic.

2. Taubes: "The other key factor is they eat virtually no sugar. So the Japanese, the Chinese, the Koreans, the Vietnamese, the way it's talked about often is these people don't have a sweet tooth."

Has Taubes even seen traditional Japanese sweets?! Some of them are 100% sugar! Sweet foods are extremely popular in Japan. To say Japanese eat virtually no sugar is just false. Japanese traditional snacks often have lots of sugar in them. And the ones that don't, like rice crackers and mochi, are made from white rice. Japanese sweet bean paste is a very popular snack. Japanese eat ice cream too. And Japanese chocolates are world-renowned. There are more varieties of chocolate in a typical Japanese supermarket than in most U.S. supermarkets. What is he talking about?

What Taubes is saying is blatantly false.

If he is a man of science, how can he make such statements and ignore the reality that the traditional carbs in Japanese diets are (1) high glycemic refined carbs and (2) the Japanese obesity rate is 1/10th of what it is in the U.S.

If he looked at the facts objectively he should honestly reject his own thesis.

doug

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  • YourFriendBecky
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    I can understand your frustration. There is so much speculation going on in the name of science.

    This is slightly off topic, but I just finished reading a book called The Blue Zones. The author is a National Geographic researcher who traveled to the pockets of the world that have been shown to have centenarian populations much larger than "normal": Okinawa, Sardinia, Costa Rica, Loma Linda. They did extensive study on the foods eaten. Except for the fact that foods were mostly unprocessed and predominantly plant-based, there was very little overlap in what different cultures ate. I was left with the distinct impression that the food didn't have nearly as much impact as 1) physical exercise and fresh air in the form of one's daily work, and 2) families and communities that did not set their elderly to the side, but rather encouraged and even expected them to continue to contribute something.

    I've read a lot of books that try to make a leap between food and good health/healthy weight/longevity. I've studied the glycemic index, glycemic load, insulin resistance, pH balancing, food combining, the benefits of fiber, the benefits of a high protein diet, the benefits of a high-fat diet... and ended up with a bad case of immobilization because they all contradicted one another. The only thing I definitely believe at this point is that it's probably better to eat foods that are less processed and contain more natural nutrients, but as you say, even the "avoid processed food" argument is put to the lie with the Japanese diet.

    So now... I just keep things simple. I don't count anything but calories, because I've seen calorie counting work over and over and over for people. I eat whatever I want, including sweets every day. I'm losing weight just fine.

    I mean, who knows, maybe the stress of worrying about food increases cortisol and contributes to weight gain. Maybe feelings of deprivation send a signal to the brain to hold onto fat. Trying to stay happy and relaxed is as important as anything, I think.

    And the people who try to make a living out of claiming there is One Right Way (without being able to back that up, since any study can be flawed)... well, it seems like a lot of, excuse the term, mental *kitten* to me.

    (Edited to add: Have you thought about writing a letter to the paper?)

    Becky
  • YourFriendBecky
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    A second comment... aside from just parroting speculative information, Gary Taube's actual writing style is really awful.

    <<"So the more refined a carbohydrate is, like white rice, we digest quicker than brown rice because brown rice still has the fiber and the shell, the carbs are bound up in such a way that they take longer to digest. So far the first thing is the Asians didn't eat in Asian they didn't eat refined, you know the ones who are eating really high carb diets weren't eating white rice, they weren't eating highly refined wheat. So they're -- you know the way the nutritionists would say, the carbs they were eating had a lower glycemic index, it wasn't digested as quickly, and that resulted in a more measured insulin response.">>

    WTF? This guy gets paid to write?
  • douglernerold
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    Well, to be fair there, it was a live interview, not a quote he wrote and edited. That was a live transcript.

    But he seems like a bad student of science to me because instead of incorporating new data and modifying his theory to take facts into account, he makes up things that aren't true at all to support his hypothesis.

    doug
  • LauraMcGanity
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    Articles like this make me cross - some people (my mother for example) believe the printed word to be true, regardless of what it actually says.
    This is a crackpot theory and he has tailored the facts to fit this.
  • johnthefatman
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    Journalists are the last person I would trust about anything especially anything scientific. I have yet to see one that understands statistics and how to interpret them.