Stop counting cleaning, walking to the mail box, etc.

I don't care if people want to log cleaning or whatever else they want to log. I don't log that stuff, but it is their right to log it if they want to. Although knowing it bothers the OP and quite possibly others, I might just start to log that stuff now.

You still have time to edit out the personal insult since there really is not reason for making it so personal...

Personal insults are one thing, not agreeing with the OP's view is something else entirely!

I don't know what personal insult you're talking about or what edit you're talking about, considering I never edited or deleted anything I said, but thanks for the tip. All I'm saying is that this guy doesn't look like the professional/expert he's acting like he is to be dictating other people's actions on here. Rollin my eyes. :noway:

maybe take your own advice and get over it?

Because OP crying about someone he chose to friend is the same as me having to look at OPs ****post on the forum & forum recent activity. How2logic?

Is this really the biggest problem in your life that you have the time to make a post crying about this instead of addressing another issue in your life? Seriously ?

If you don't like what someone posts, then ignore them.

Why do people complain about not losing as fast as they'd like and then count cleaning (vigorous effort) as exercise? Unless cleaning is dragging a 300 lb porcelain tub out of a two story building, you did not burn 300 calories.

Seriously, stop.

This is the point lots have missed.

For those who are losing like they want to it really doesn't apply.

For those on my FL who complain they "can't seem to lose" and want advice I look and if I see cleaning, mowing etc I tell them...if you did all that stuff before you started losing then don't count it....it's not helping.

I mean really I know mowing the lawn adds steps and if it's push mowing a gas powered mower it's can burn calories...but what if it's self propelled???? eh not so much.

Or cleaning...do I break a sweat cleaning my house...not normally...it's not that dirty...now if I am spring cleaning where I am washing walls moving furniture yah it's a workout...but I still wouldn't count it...why because I did all that stuff when I was fat and it didn't help me one bit...for weight loss...I stayed fat...until I got serious about a calorie deficit...

Oh and btw..MFP gives the description "walking the dog" for a walk that is 3mph...

ETA: but in all reality...if people want to log cleaning etc...log it...but if you ask for advice and that is given take it seriously otherwise I will do me you do you.

It is a mile round-trip to my mail box and depending on traffic I do it in 15-20 min. You better believe I count it.

That's about 60 net calories for a 200 pound human.

Nah, more like 80 cal for an average height male or female.

Why do people complain about not losing as fast as they'd like and then count cleaning (vigorous effort) as exercise? Unless cleaning is dragging a 300 lb porcelain tub out of a two story building, you did not burn 300 calories.

Seriously, stop.

This is the point lots have missed.

For those who are losing like they want to it really doesn't apply.

For those on my FL who complain they "can't seem to lose" and want advice I look and if I see cleaning, mowing etc I tell them...if you did all that stuff before you started losing then don't count it....it's not helping.

So, a chubby person who was an avid cyclist - say, 100 miles a week for the round number - whose base activity level (which doesn't account for the cycling hobby, just their job) is 'lightly active' and consistently ate over their maintenance calories shouldn't count the 100 miles of cycling once they start eating at or below maintenance?

maybe take your own advice and get over it?

Because OP crying about someone he chose to friend is the same as me having to look at OPs ****post on the forum & forum recent activity. How2logic?

Is this really the biggest problem in your life that you have the time to make a post crying about this instead of addressing another issue in your life? Seriously ?

If you don't like what someone posts, then ignore them.

I like irony.

I just reposted what she posted above because I liked the irony.

The OP was obviously directing this post towards those who inflate normal daily activity that is more than likely already calculated by whatever you used to calculate your macros, unless you chose sedentary couch potato as daily activity. Also more specifically those who do this, and then eat back their spent calories and continue to not see results. Chances are someone read this and stopped doing and might actually make some progress because of it, if you are butt hurt over the OP's post then take a walk to your mail box and burn off 6000 calories, make sure you log it.

Why do people complain about not losing as fast as they'd like and then count cleaning (vigorous effort) as exercise? Unless cleaning is dragging a 300 lb porcelain tub out of a two story building, you did not burn 300 calories.

Seriously, stop.

This is the point lots have missed.

For those who are losing like they want to it really doesn't apply.

For those on my FL who complain they "can't seem to lose" and want advice I look and if I see cleaning, mowing etc I tell them...if you did all that stuff before you started losing then don't count it....it's not helping.

I mean really I know mowing the lawn adds steps and if it's push mowing a gas powered mower it's can burn calories...but what if it's self propelled???? eh not so much.

Or cleaning...do I break a sweat cleaning my house...not normally...it's not that dirty...now if I am spring cleaning where I am washing walls moving furniture yah it's a workout...but I still wouldn't count it...why because I did all that stuff when I was fat and it didn't help me one bit...for weight loss...I stayed fat...until I got serious about a calorie deficit...

Oh and btw..MFP gives the description "walking the dog" for a walk that is 3mph...

ETA: but in all reality...if people want to log cleaning etc...log it...but if you ask for advice and that is given take it seriously otherwise I will do me you do you.

I've been losing so it doesn't really apply to me. But when I do deep cleaning at my house I do log it because I am dripping in sweat. It's not a huge amount of calories and I'm not eating them back. Scrubbing walls, bathrooms and my kitchen floor. I did it before I started MFP but I try and work harder at it and sweat more. I like to see all the activity I do but of course I don't record regular daily cooking and cleaning up. I'm sure it's burn something and better than just sitting around but I'm not sweating, out of breath, or anything.

For food preparation - I only logged this a couple times when I had family over and I was cooking/in the kitchen for hours. It's not like it was a huge calorie burner anyway.

But.. but.. my mailbox is on the other side of my neighborhood. A 10 minute walk there, and a 10 minute walk back. 20 minutes.

I just count it as 'walking'.

I don't get it when people log stuff like, washing the dishes. But some people really are sedentary and therefore, have MFP set to something like 1200 calories. So, I'd actually prefer people who have it set so low to log everything. As setting it to not sedentary would take all those minimal tasks into count.

Why do people complain about not losing as fast as they'd like and then count cleaning (vigorous effort) as exercise? Unless cleaning is dragging a 300 lb porcelain tub out of a two story building, you did not burn 300 calories.

Seriously, stop.

Why are you so worried about what other people do?