Avacado, Beans and Nuts....told to stay away

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  • _Resolve_
    _Resolve_ Posts: 735 Member
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    Nope
  • RabbitLost
    RabbitLost Posts: 333 Member
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    I see that folks are replying that this is rubbish. It is. But I'm not sure why folks are acting like it's a bizarre notion (particularly the nuts and avocado). This was the prevailing logic of many mainstream diets (and what I was taught in nutrition) for many years. For years folks believed that "fat" made you fat. The beans part is probably a weird carb thing. Hell, my sister was told by JENNY CRAIG to avoid avocado and nuts just a couple of years ago. Trail mix? I can see adding a bit of warning. It's very easy to eat 500 calories or more of trail mix in a sitting. It's not a "bad" food at all, just pretty calorically dense.
    Avocados and nuts are great fats. Beans are a great energy source. Trail mix is a nice snack, when carefully measured out.

    A lot of damage was done with the USDA's original food pyramid. Views on fat in particular. Still, anyone claiming to be a nutritionist should know these are all good foods, in moderation.
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
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    Absolute quackery!
  • KameHameHaaaa
    KameHameHaaaa Posts: 837 Member
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    Get a second opinion from another professional.
  • eric5577
    eric5577 Posts: 65 Member
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    I agree, I told her not to go back. I did not agree with what she was saying.
  • benchsquad65
    benchsquad65 Posts: 147 Member
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    Nutritionist don't always know what they're talking about.

    Those foods can definitely be easily incorporated into a healthy diet, as long as they're eaten in moderation, like anything in life.
  • DellaWiedel
    DellaWiedel Posts: 125 Member
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    Get a new nutritionist.

    ^^^This. Why would anyone tell you NOT to eat those specific foods, unless you were allergic or something?
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
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    Don't waste any more time or money on that quack.
    In fact, find out what group s/he is certified by (if any) & report the dangerous info being given out.
    Nuts and avocados are healthy. They are high in calories, so don't go overboard.

    Here's information from reliable, science-backed sources to show your wife, so she won't want to go back there & get more bad advice.

    http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/fat/unsaturatedfat.html
    This article has a table showing nuts & avocados as monounsaturated fats, the healthiest kind.
    "Most of the fat that you eat should come from unsaturated sources: polyunsaturated fats and monounsaturated fats. In general, nuts, vegetable oils, and fish are sources of unsaturated fats."

    http://win.niddk.nih.gov/
    Avocados are high in potassium, just like bananas, so people with kidney disease are advised to avoid them.

    http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/protein.html
    Beans are a healthy (though inefficient) way to get protein.

    http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/healthy_eating/meals.html
    Beans are recommended to add to dishes (such as soup) to improve nutritional value.

    Also:
    "Research shows that people get full by the amount of food they eat, not the number of calories they take in. You can cut calories in your favorite foods by lowering the amount of fat and or increasing the amount of fiber-rich ingredients"

    http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/fruitsvegetables/nutrient-info.html
    Beans have healthy dietary fiber.
    "Diets rich in dietary fiber have been shown to have a number of beneficial effects including decreased risk of coronary artery disease."
    "Excellent vegetable sources:
    navy beans, kidney beans, black beans, pinto beans, lima beans, white beans, soybeans, split peas, chick peas, black eyed peas, lentils, artichokes"
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
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    I see that folks are replying that this is rubbish. It is. But I'm not sure why folks are acting like it's a bizarre notion (particularly the nuts and avocado). This was the prevailing logic of many mainstream diets (and what I was taught in nutrition) for many years. For years folks believed that "fat" made you fat. The beans part is probably a weird carb thing. Hell, my sister was told by JENNY CRAIG to avoid avocado and nuts just a couple of years ago. Trail mix? I can see adding a bit of warning. It's very easy to eat 500 calories or more of trail mix in a sitting. It's not a "bad" food at all, just pretty calorically dense.
    Avocados and nuts are great fats. Beans are a great energy source. Trail mix is a nice snack, when carefully measured out.

    A lot of damage was done with the USDA's original food pyramid. Views on fat in particular. Still, anyone claiming to be a nutritionist should know these are all good foods, in moderation.
    *should* know. I'd bet we have 5+ more years before those folks have retired. The ones who don't update their info.
  • MKEgal
    MKEgal Posts: 3,250 Member
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    Get a second opinion from a professional.
    FTFY
    The "nutritionist" is obviously not a professional, giving out such bad information.
  • RosanaRosanaDana
    RosanaRosanaDana Posts: 93 Member
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    She is obviously a general practitioner and not a nutritionist. The only reason I could see her saying this is if your wife was having digestive issues like IBS or Diverticulosis. Did she see the doctor for a specific reason or just a general visit?
  • babyphat2012
    babyphat2012 Posts: 36 Member
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    Fire that nutrionist!! Yes avocados and nuts are high in fat but they are high in good fats. It is true that if you eat that in excess that you will gain weight. Fit it in with your other calories then you should be good
  • bethira
    bethira Posts: 132 Member
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    Isn't it true that anything eaten to excess can cause you to gain weight? Perhaps with the exception of lettuce. The point at which lettuce would exceed your total calorie deficit would have to be hundreds of pounds.

    Agree with the others. I believe that nutritionist should be fired, reported to her licensing agency and perhaps she should consider an alternate career (and train properly for this one).
  • eric5577
    eric5577 Posts: 65 Member
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    She is obviously a general practitioner and not a nutritionist. The only reason I could see her saying this is if your wife was having digestive issues like IBS or Diverticulosis. Did she see the doctor for a specific reason or just a general visit?

    She was refered by her PCP. My wife tends to not know what to eat, she struggles with finding good food she likes. SO she thought this lady would help her out..not so much I guess.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
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    My wife was told by a nutrionist to not eat avacados (she pretty much told her to never eat this), beans (black, kidney, chic peas), and nuts (almonds, walnuts)....and esp trail mix. Now, I love avacado, and thought it was a supper food, same with beans.....why would she say this? She claims the "fat" out weighs any benefits of the food....

    That's total BS. Get a new DIETICIAN. Basically anyone can call themselves a nutritionist.

    I've been to 3 dietitians who all suggest that individuals should eat healthy fats like avocados and nuts. They also suggest adding more legumes into one's diet. I eat a Mediterranean style diet which calls for at least 1 serving of legumes (black beans, chick peas, etc) a day.
  • sddiemart
    sddiemart Posts: 1 Member
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    As a certified and licensed nutrition professional with 20 years of experience I would agree with the comments stating to find a new 'nutritionist'. Find a Registered Dietitian (RD) if you want to get reliable information. Anyone can claim to be a nutritionist but it doesn't mean anything if they don't have the schooling/degree to back it up.....and even then make sure its a legit degree/profession. Those of us who are licensed/cerified have years of schooling and then maintain our licenses by taking ongoing classes/training throughout our career to keep up with the latest info.

    Now as for being told to avoid these items- avacado and nuts ARE high in fat and calories. However it is a 'healthy' fat. While you don't want to consume them in large quantities they are a good source of fat (and protein - in nuts). Despite what some 'diets' claim you DO need some fats in your diet. Not only does it help with feeling sated after a meal but your body also needs some fat to properly function.. Better to get it from a healthy source than from high fat meats, candy bars, protein bars (while there are a few that are good, most of them are high sugar calorie bombs - better to eat natural sources of protein), etc.

    As for the beans...well she is full of beans herself! These are one of the best sources of fiber and protein you can consume. In addition they are a low cost way to fill out your diet. At one time it was thought they were an 'incomplete' protein, however the latest studies find that you can get the protein you need by eating a variety of beans and other vegetables. You can research this more on reputable websites or set up a consult with a LICENSED nutritional specialist.

    Good luck with the weight loss!
  • RunnerStephe
    RunnerStephe Posts: 2,195
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    I would be farting all night long.

    You don't eat them enough.
  • suzybee30
    suzybee30 Posts: 30 Member
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    I can understand why to stay away from trail mix as often times it has extra things like chocolate chips and dried fruit which can add extra calories, sugar, and fat, but I don't understand the rest. In fact, my doctor suggested that one snack a day be 1/4 cup of nuts and at least 2 days a week I should go meatless. For the meatless meals he suggested vegetarian chili, lentil soup, or a mock taco salad topped with black beans, tomatoes, avocado, and fresh corn with a spritz of lime juice.
  • sarmination
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    Change your "nutritionist". Start googling your nutrition information and learn on your own. Avocados are an excellent source of good fat. But if you eat too much of anything, it can turn into a nightmare.:glasses:
  • eric5577
    eric5577 Posts: 65 Member
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    I do a lot or research on things we eat, she just does not believe me all the time.