Quest candy bars.

Some information from the Quest Bar Lawsuit:
http://www.strengthsociety.com/quest-bar-nutrition-lawsuit/

Merely a civil lawsuit by one man accusing of false labeling its fiber content. Anyone for that matter can open a civil lawsuit against a company and make a claim as such. Isomaltooligosaccharide or IMO (for short) is a multifunctional health molecule which exerts positive effects on human digestive health. There are numerous scientific papers available about the role of IMO as prebiotic, least flatulence (i.e., generating least gas), low Glycemic index, and Anti-caries Activities. In the state of California you can count this as the total dietary fiber content of a product. In general this "civil lawsuit" is merely an accusation by one man. Nothing more, nothing less.

Quote by QuestNutrition:
“Quest has been named in a lawsuit regarding our fiber count. It is our belief and conviction that this lawsuit is without merit. The things a plaintiff states in a lawsuit are just that — – his statements. He doesn’t have to prove them to put them in the lawsuit. He just needs to write them down. Proof is another matter. We believe that what is written in this lawsuit results from not understanding the current state of fiber science. We are fighting this case to make it clear to our customers and partners that our label information is 100% accurate.
Make no mistake, Quest Nutrition will not back down in the face of what we believe are attacks based on lack of good information. The outpouring of support from our customers and supporters on this issue has been overwhelming. We’re very grateful for the support, and we want to assure everyone that we are committed to bringing the highest quality products to our loyal fan base. We have nothing to hide and we look forward to a very visible public refutation of these unfounded claims.”

Some information from the Quest Bar Lawsuit:
http://www.strengthsociety.com/quest-bar-nutrition-lawsuit/

Merely a civil lawsuit by one man accusing of false labeling its fiber content. Anyone for that matter can open a civil lawsuit against a company and make a claim as such. Isomaltooligosaccharide or IMO (for short) is a multifunctional health molecule which exerts positive effects on human digestive health. There are numerous scientific papers available about the role of IMO as prebiotic, least flatulence (i.e., generating least gas), low Glycemic index, and Anti-caries Activities. In the state of California you can count this as the total dietary fiber content of a product. In general this "civil lawsuit" is merely an accusation by one man. Nothing more, nothing less.

Quote by QuestNutrition:
“Quest has been named in a lawsuit regarding our fiber count. It is our belief and conviction that this lawsuit is without merit. The things a plaintiff states in a lawsuit are just that — – his statements. He doesn’t have to prove them to put them in the lawsuit. He just needs to write them down. Proof is another matter. We believe that what is written in this lawsuit results from not understanding the current state of fiber science. We are fighting this case to make it clear to our customers and partners that our label information is 100% accurate.
Make no mistake, Quest Nutrition will not back down in the face of what we believe are attacks based on lack of good information. The outpouring of support from our customers and supporters on this issue has been overwhelming. We’re very grateful for the support, and we want to assure everyone that we are committed to bringing the highest quality products to our loyal fan base. We have nothing to hide and we look forward to a very visible public refutation of these unfounded claims.”

http://www.strengthsociety.com/quest-bar-lab-results/

Um, yeah. Check out the lab’s website and scroll down to their available dietary fiber assays. http://www.medallionlabs.com/TestOfferings/Fiber.aspx

You’ll notice that they have a separate assay for products with significant oligosaccharide content–Quest Bars are over 30%. The test used here is, perhaps purposefully and maliciously, entirely the wrong test to use. The reason this is important is that the standard dietary fiber assays use old AOAC practices that don’t mimic at all how oligosaccharides get digested in humans. The old standards involve letting the samples sit in amylase for 16 hours, which is *way* longer than the bolus is going sit in your small intestine. Wrong methodology, bad results, probable fearmongering.

Quest bars are really good! The best one is the cookies and cream because unlike the previous products you really cannot taste the "weird" taste. It's good when you're craving something sweet or pre or post workout snack!

Arguments can be made for both sides. All I know is that every time I introduce those bars into my diet I don't lose and often times even gain. I have also seen the massive blood sugar spike and the calorie differential is just way to large. If they work in your diet more power to you I actually really enjoy them. However, if you aren’t getting results I would take them out of your diet and stop paying a premium price for a product that is not helping you reach your goals.

I have eat 1-2 questbars daily for over a year and have had no issue losing weight. This is along with bacon, peanut butter and pop tarts daily. Its not WHAT you eat that makes you gain weight, it's the quantity of said food that matters. I personally feel that issue(s) you are having with weight loss is not Questbars. You cannot single out one food source for your "weight gain" or lack of "weight loss." The bigger issue is you are consuming more calories then you are burning on an average day.

No its actually directly from them as its the only variable I changed

I vote for double chocolate chunk, chocolate peanut butter, white chocolate raspberry, and apple pie. They are fantastic.

Arguments can be made for both sides. All I know is that every time I introduce those bars into my diet I don't lose and often times even gain. I have also seen the massive blood sugar spike and the calorie differential is just way to large. If they work in your diet more power to you I actually really enjoy them. However, if you aren’t getting results I would take them out of your diet and stop paying a premium price for a product that is not helping you reach your goals.

I have eat 1-2 questbars daily for over a year and have had no issue losing weight. This is along with bacon, peanut butter and pop tarts daily. Its not WHAT you eat that makes you gain weight, it's the quantity of said food that matters. I personally feel that issue(s) you are having with weight loss is not Questbars. You cannot single out one food source for your "weight gain" or lack of "weight loss." The bigger issue is you are consuming more calories then you are burning on an average day.

No its actually directly from them as its the only variable I changed

So correct me if I'm wrong please as I'm trying to understand where you're coming from. Lets say the Cookie Dough questbar was making you gain weight so you stopped eating them. Did you continue to eat calories +/- = equal to said cookie dough questbar or did you stop eating those calories as a whole?

Arguments can be made for both sides. All I know is that every time I introduce those bars into my diet I don't lose and often times even gain. I have also seen the massive blood sugar spike and the calorie differential is just way to large. If they work in your diet more power to you I actually really enjoy them. However, if you aren’t getting results I would take them out of your diet and stop paying a premium price for a product that is not helping you reach your goals.

I have eat 1-2 questbars daily for over a year and have had no issue losing weight. This is along with bacon, peanut butter and pop tarts daily. Its not WHAT you eat that makes you gain weight, it's the quantity of said food that matters. I personally feel that issue(s) you are having with weight loss is not Questbars. You cannot single out one food source for your "weight gain" or lack of "weight loss." The bigger issue is you are consuming more calories then you are burning on an average day.

No its actually directly from them as its the only variable I changed

So correct me if I'm wrong please as I'm trying to understand where you're coming from. Lets say the Cookie Dough questbar was making you gain weight so you stopped eating them. Did you continue to eat calories +/- = equal to said cookie dough questbar or did you stop eating those calories as a whole?

Yes I replaced that snack with an alternative protein snack with similar calories and macros (well calories as according to the innaccurate Quest Bar label)

Arguments can be made for both sides. All I know is that every time I introduce those bars into my diet I don't lose and often times even gain. I have also seen the massive blood sugar spike and the calorie differential is just way to large. If they work in your diet more power to you I actually really enjoy them. However, if you aren’t getting results I would take them out of your diet and stop paying a premium price for a product that is not helping you reach your goals.

I have eat 1-2 questbars daily for over a year and have had no issue losing weight. This is along with bacon, peanut butter and pop tarts daily. Its not WHAT you eat that makes you gain weight, it's the quantity of said food that matters. I personally feel that issue(s) you are having with weight loss is not Questbars. You cannot single out one food source for your "weight gain" or lack of "weight loss." The bigger issue is you are consuming more calories then you are burning on an average day.

No its actually directly from them as its the only variable I changed

So correct me if I'm wrong please as I'm trying to understand where you're coming from. Lets say the Cookie Dough questbar was making you gain weight so you stopped eating them. Did you continue to eat calories +/- = equal to said cookie dough questbar or did you stop eating those calories as a whole?

Yes I replaced that snack with an alternative protein snack with similar calories and macros (well calories as according to the innaccurate Quest Bar label)

oh ok, I see what you did there. Let me guess, after you did this the weight just melted off with ease? :huh:

and the some 80-100 calorie potential difference caused you a weight increase, with ALL ELSE being unchanged?

that's exactly why i'm questioning her. In order to gain say a 1lb per week, you need to consume a 500cal/per day surplus. Now I don't know how many she ate a given week, but something doesn't add up.

I was a bigger fan of them until I actually calculated the macros on them and the calories listed on the label are way off. Most bars average around 240 calories, so not really the great calorie saver "treat" I once thought they were.

Take cookies and cream just as an example since its the new craze:
Labeled Calories: 180

Macro Breakdown--> protein: 21g (21 X 4 = 84), Fat: 7g (7 X 9 =63), Carbs: 22 (22 X 4 =88)

84 + 63 + 88 = 235 Calories, not 180 that’s a discrepancy of 55 calories, yes this occurs will a lot of our American food products because technically fiber calories are subtractable but this has turned me off from the brand completely. I guess I'm just glad I always count macros and not calories.

I can not thank you enough for this. I have found that pretty much every label is incorrect and NOT in my favor! Huff!!

The labeling is not incorrect at all. In the US, companies subtract a portion of the carbohydrates that come from fiber from the calorie count. It's not intended to be misleading and it is not the fault of the brand; EVERY label is calculated this way. Fiber is good for you, and is only partially digested. Hence, you really do not absorb 4 cal/g from fiber as you do from other carbs. The fiber used in Quest bars is used to bulk and bind the bar and really doesn't make them "high in carbs" like a traditional protein bar that is full of sugar.

I don't know, there's something off about them. The numbers look good on paper, but I tried 3, on 3 separate days and each time they spiked my blood sugar by 50 points. Eating pancakes and syrup doesn't spike my blood sugar that high.

Did you eat the bar within an our of taking your insulin/medication? I find that the high fibre actually slows down my insulin release when I take my insulin close to eating the bar. So my blood sugars will be really high because my insulin hasn't been absorbed, then shoot down really low after a few hours. That's mainly why I'm careful around the timing of quest bars. They're good for an afternoon snack, when it doesn't interfere with my insulin shots.

This thread inspired me to finally try the apple pie one... OMG.

SO. GOOD.

Once I finish my pure protein bars, I might switch to these for a while for variability. I'm glad the question was asked! Everyone has great input!

I was a bigger fan of them until I actually calculated the macros on them and the calories listed on the label are way off. Most bars average around 240 calories, so not really the great calorie saver "treat" I once thought they were.

Take cookies and cream just as an example since its the new craze:
Labeled Calories: 180

Macro Breakdown--> protein: 21g (21 X 4 = 84), Fat: 7g (7 X 9 =63), Carbs: 22 (22 X 4 =88)

84 + 63 + 88 = 235 Calories, not 180 that’s a discrepancy of 55 calories, yes this occurs will a lot of our American food products because technically fiber calories are subtractable but this has turned me off from the brand completely. I guess I'm just glad I always count macros and not calories.

Fiber does not have calories, so you have to subtract it from the total amount of calories from carbs. The right calculation is:
Protein: 21g (21 X 4 = 84), Fat: 7g (7 X 9 =63), Carbs: 22g (22 X 4 =88), Fiber: 17g (17 X 4 = 68).

Then: 84 + 63 + 88 - 68 = 167

I was a bigger fan of them until I actually calculated the macros on them and the calories listed on the label are way off. Most bars average around 240 calories, so not really the great calorie saver "treat" I once thought they were.

Take cookies and cream just as an example since its the new craze:
Labeled Calories: 180

Macro Breakdown--> protein: 21g (21 X 4 = 84), Fat: 7g (7 X 9 =63), Carbs: 22 (22 X 4 =88)

84 + 63 + 88 = 235 Calories, not 180 that’s a discrepancy of 55 calories, yes this occurs will a lot of our American food products because technically fiber calories are subtractable but this has turned me off from the brand completely. I guess I'm just glad I always count macros and not calories.

Fiber does not have calories, so you have to subtract it from the total amount of calories from carbs. The right calculation is:
Protein: 21g (21 X 4 = 84), Fat: 7g (7 X 9 =63), Carbs: 22g (22 X 4 =88), Fiber: 17g (17 X 4 = 68).

Then: 84 + 63 + 88 - 68 = 167

Incorrect:

What many people don't realize is that bacteria in your gut feed on some types of fiber. They chow down on your dietary bulk and it results in the production of short-chain fatty acids, which your body can use. So from that point of view, fiber would count as calories.

However, not all the fiber that you eat meets this fate, and there's no clear consensus on fiber's caloric contribution. On one hand, the FDA estimates the amount of caloric contribution due to bacterial degradation at about 1.5 calories per gram of fiber. However, different countries and institutions have divergent ideas of what fiber is, let alone how to calculate it in any given meal. The FDA's estimate is just that, an estimate.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-macro-manager-does-fiber-count-in-calories.html

I was a bigger fan of them until I actually calculated the macros on them and the calories listed on the label are way off. Most bars average around 240 calories, so not really the great calorie saver "treat" I once thought they were.

Take cookies and cream just as an example since its the new craze:
Labeled Calories: 180

Macro Breakdown--> protein: 21g (21 X 4 = 84), Fat: 7g (7 X 9 =63), Carbs: 22 (22 X 4 =88)

84 + 63 + 88 = 235 Calories, not 180 that’s a discrepancy of 55 calories, yes this occurs will a lot of our American food products because technically fiber calories are subtractable but this has turned me off from the brand completely. I guess I'm just glad I always count macros and not calories.

Fiber does not have calories, so you have to subtract it from the total amount of calories from carbs. The right calculation is:
Protein: 21g (21 X 4 = 84), Fat: 7g (7 X 9 =63), Carbs: 22g (22 X 4 =88), Fiber: 17g (17 X 4 = 68).

Then: 84 + 63 + 88 - 68 = 167

Incorrect:

What many people don't realize is that bacteria in your gut feed on some types of fiber. They chow down on your dietary bulk and it results in the production of short-chain fatty acids, which your body can use. So from that point of view, fiber would count as calories.

However, not all the fiber that you eat meets this fate, and there's no clear consensus on fiber's caloric contribution. On one hand, the FDA estimates the amount of caloric contribution due to bacterial degradation at about 1.5 calories per gram of fiber. However, different countries and institutions have divergent ideas of what fiber is, let alone how to calculate it in any given meal. The FDA's estimate is just that, an estimate.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ask-the-macro-manager-does-fiber-count-in-calories.html

I'm glad it encouraged you to look up how fiber actually works. Still, my comment is by far more accurate than your first claim about the faulty calculations of the Quest bar caloric value.

I love this thread because I work in a grocery store, and we just started carrying the Quest Bars this week. I have 6 varieties available, but only four shelf spaces for them. I tried to guess which four to carry and the cookie dough one wasn't one of them. I guess I'll have to reconsider since so many people seem to like that one best. I can't try them myself because of the Stevia, so I'm glad I just read this to help me.

Only about half of them have stevia in them (the "all natural" flavors); the rest are sweetened w sucralose and sometimes erythritol. Just so you know they vary by flavor.