Gained 4lbs over two days?

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  • 365andstillalive
    365andstillalive Posts: 663 Member
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    It sounds to me like you're putting your body in starvation mode. Even if you're fairly short (let's say 5ft even), eating 900 calories a day is pretty low.
    I'd really encourage you to do a little research and figure out your BMR (what your body burns through just to function) so that you can make sure you're at least meeting that number. 1200 is kind of that magical number that we all say people need to eat at minimum, but that isn't always true for women if they really are on the petite side.
    Eat more to lose more seems like a weird philosophy, but I've lost 60lbs doing it, and am now trying to lose the final 30. I'm 5'6ish and my BMR sits around 1650, but I'm moderately active so my TDEE is closer to 2200, which means that when I eat 1500 calories, I'm already creating a 700 calorie deficit. We get really focused on trying to keep our numbers low thinking that will help us lose, but more often than not, that's the problem.
    Sodium can cause water retention which ups weight, so that could be your problem short term, but long term eating too little can do a lot of damage to your body and completely inhibit you from losing the weight you want to.
  • lollyhackett
    lollyhackett Posts: 79 Member
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    It sounds like you are eating way below what your body requires, thus I can only assume your metabolism is slowing to a stop. Have you tried calculating your BMR?

    Your BMR is the amount of energy your body needs to function. We use about 60% of the calories we consume each day for basic bodily functions such as breathing. I won't go into the rest :-)

    But here's a quick guide to help you calculate what you truly need:

    Note: this is the formula for women.

    655 + (4.3 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)

    If you are trying to lose weight then apply the next formula:

    If you are sedentary : BMR x 20 percent
    If you are lightly active: BMR x 30 percent
    If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 40 percent
    If you are very active (You exercise intensely on a daily basis or for prolonged periods.): BMR x 50 percent
    If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 60 percent

    Add this number to your BMR. The result of this formula will be the number of calories you can eat every day and maintain your current weight. In order to lose weight, you'll need to take in fewer calories than this result. I suggest taking off 500 calories.

    It's worth working out!! I bet your body needs way more calories to be super efficient at burning off the fat.

    Take care! Lauren.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,658 Member
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    It sounds to me like you're putting your body in starvation mode.
    Of all the things it could possibly sound like, this isn't one of them.
  • paulzli
    paulzli Posts: 72 Member
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    my net calories for Monday and Tuesday were 167 and 590

    and stop starving yourself. This number needs to be at least 1200.

    Stop throwing around that 1200 number. More misinformation after misinformation.
  • AmyLRed
    AmyLRed Posts: 894 Member
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    even though its already been said 10 or 15 times, I will say it again, PLEASE eat more! I know it sounds like the opposite of what you should do, but you need more net calories. 1200 is low, even for myself at 5'1". Netting anything below 1200 will most certainly NOT help you lose weight.
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
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    my net calories for Monday and Tuesday were 167 and 590

    and stop starving yourself. This number needs to be at least 1200.

    Stop throwing around that 1200 number. More misinformation after misinformation.

    eating consistently below BMR is not smart.

    I am tiny, and my BMR is right at 1200. She has some weight to lose, which MOST LIKELY means her BMR is a bit MORE than 1200.

    Logic concludes that for her, 1200 is low, seeing as though she has less than 30 pounds to lose, is a teenager, and should not be in a huge deficit.

    I am not "throwing around" arbitrary numbers. I know that 1200 is not a magic number for everyone. But I am smart and know numbers, thank you. Not going below 1200 is the best advice I can give this person who won't say her height and won't open her diary.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,658 Member
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    even though its already been said 10 or 15 times, I will say it again, PLEASE eat more! I know it sounds like the opposite of what you should do, but you need more net calories. 1200 is low, even for myself at 5'1". Netting anything below 1200 will most certainly NOT help you lose weight.
    It most certainly has helped me lose weight.
    eating consistently below BMR is not smart.
    Why?
  • jasonmh630
    jasonmh630 Posts: 2,850 Member
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    It sounds to me like you're putting your body in starvation mode.

    Nope, it's not that. Why? Because starvation mode is a myth.

    No offense to you, though... I know you're just trying to help her out. :flowerforyou:
  • sculli123
    sculli123 Posts: 1,221 Member
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    If you gained that in 2 days it's water weight. You probably ate carbs and sodium that day which both retain water. Lower carbs and keep sodium low this week and I bet the weight will be gone. Oh and drink MORE water than you think you have to. You'll go to the bathroom a lot but this is how you get rid of excess water. Your body will say "hey we have too much water and keep getting more in, no reason to retain this stuff". wooosh!
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
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    even though its already been said 10 or 15 times, I will say it again, PLEASE eat more! I know it sounds like the opposite of what you should do, but you need more net calories. 1200 is low, even for myself at 5'1". Netting anything below 1200 will most certainly NOT help you lose weight.
    It most certainly has helped me lose weight.
    eating consistently below BMR is not smart.
    Why?
    Errrybody needs to EAT MOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAR!

    Eating that low is not sustainable, and why would you want to do that? Food is delicious.
  • Wuffles70
    Wuffles70 Posts: 21 Member
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    This is a really good point, especially as it sounds like OP has been craving a fair amount of salt lately...
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
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    eating consistently below BMR is not smart.
    Why?

    because it's extremely difficult to get the nutrients your body needs long term in that few calories unless your eating is spot on. Notice I said consistently. One or two days here and there of really low cals won't cause any problems.

    And I never said you can't lose weight, I just said it's not SMART. Nutritionally.

    and stop trying to start arguments. It's not working.
  • paulzli
    paulzli Posts: 72 Member
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    It sounds to me like you're putting your body in starvation mode.

    Nope, it's not that. Why? Because starvation mode is a myth.

    No offense to you, though... I know you're just trying to help her out. :flowerforyou:

    Muscle breakdown before fat breakdown is a myth (only happens unless you are 4% body fat already). But metabolism slowing (adaptive thermogenesis) is a completely different story.

    Long story short, your metabolism will never slow down to the point where a defecit wont cause you to lose weight, but it definitely can decrease the amount you can eat when you hit maintenance.
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
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    metabolism slowing (adaptive thermogenesis) is a completely different story.

    Long story short, your metabolism will never slow down to the point where a defecit wont cause you to lose weight, but it definitely can decrease the amount you can eat when you hit maintenance.

    this is true.

    you can eat less and less and keep losing weight. You will never hit a point where you will GAIN weight from eating too little. That is a complete misconception and bastardization of adaptive thermogenesis, which people have coined "starvation mode"

    But you won't be very healthy. Your body does need nutrients. The balance is finding the calories that will allow you to lose weight WHILE maintaining your energy, hair, nails, skin, etc.

    Which in MOST CASES, is 1200 or more. Rarely is it possible to meet all of a person's nutritional needs CONSISTENTLY on less than 1200. Yes there are exceptions. A 4'10" 96 lb woman could probably do it on 1000 just fine. But for the most part, MOST humans need at least 1200 calories to get in adequate nutrition.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,658 Member
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    eating consistently below BMR is not smart.
    Why?

    because it's extremely difficult to get the nutrients your body needs long term in that few calories unless your eating is spot on. Notice I said consistently. One or two days here and there of really low cals won't cause any problems.

    And I never said you can't lose weight, I just said it's not SMART. Nutritionally.

    and stop trying to start arguments. It's not working.
    How is asking a question trying to start an argument?

    Are you talking about macro or micro nutrients?

    If my body has 90 pounds of fat and my body can convert 31 calories of fat per pound per day into energy, that gives me 2700 calories which, by itself, is at least my BMR. If I eat ~ 200 grams of protein (~800 calories) what problems should I expect to see if I continually eat under my BMR at how long should those problems take to manifest themselves, as long as I have sufficient body fat to provide the additional energy?
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
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    If my body has 90 pounds of fat

    apples and oranges.

    we're talking about a 19 year old girl who wants to lose 25 more pounds. She is probably in a healthy weight range already, but we don't know her height so who knows.

    Morbidly obese people can have huge deficits for a while because they DO have all that fat. This girl doesn't.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,658 Member
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    If my body has 90 pounds of fat

    apples and oranges.

    we're talking about a 19 year old girl who wants to lose 25 more pounds. She is probably in a healthy weight range already, but we don't know her height so who knows.

    Morbidly obese people can have huge deficits for a while because they DO have all that fat. This girl doesn't.
    You wrote, "eating consistently below BMR is not smart." You didn't limit it to a 19 year old girl wanting to lose 25 pounds.

    If I understand you, you weren't intending to make a general statement about eating below BMR not being smart, you were talking specifically about the 19 year old but that there are scenarios in which eating below BMR might not be problematic at all. Is that a fair characterization?
  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
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    If my body has 90 pounds of fat

    apples and oranges.

    we're talking about a 19 year old girl who wants to lose 25 more pounds. She is probably in a healthy weight range already, but we don't know her height so who knows.

    Morbidly obese people can have huge deficits for a while because they DO have all that fat. This girl doesn't.
    You wrote, "eating consistently below BMR is not smart." You didn't limit it to a 19 year old girl wanting to lose 25 pounds.

    If I understand you, you weren't intending to make a general statement about eating below BMR not being smart, you were talking specifically about the 19 year old but that there are scenarios in which eating below BMR might not be problematic at all. Is that a fair characterization?

    I was speaking directly to the OP.

    I would never make a generalized statement referring to ALL humans. *kitten* varies based on age, weight, height, sex, and medical conditions.

    Yes, in the case of a morbidly obese individual, eating under BMR with medical supervision is sometimes even the best course of action for that person.
  • JenniferIsLosingIt
    JenniferIsLosingIt Posts: 595 Member
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    I was a little over on Sodium both days, but would that cause me to retain 4lbs of water weight?

    YES YES YES!!!!! Sodium is one of my worst enemies, on any given day it can cause up to a 9 pound difference for me! I am not even kidding!! I have to monitor mine very carefully or the bloat will kill my numbers! So in response to that drink water till your eyeballsfloat and throw in some high potassium containing foods to help wash it out of yourbody! :):)