Are Quest Bars magic?

You guys inspired me to try them. Pretty good! I think they will work best for me when i am stuck without plan friendly food (like keeping one in my purse) or when i have the desire to "indulge" in something i dont eat everyday. I got 4 for $8.49 including tax....doesnt seem worse to me then atkins stuff or other diet brands at the grocery store. Thanks guys!

They lie about how many carbs are in there. I'm diabetic, so I know these things.

Considering it spikes blood sugar like a candy bar, you have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here. My blood sugar was very high (like 300's) so I went on a low calorie diet that involved eating a quest bar every day (some days 2). My blood sugar went to normal levels within a week.

And I'm going to have to argue that your blood sugar likely didn't go from being in the 300s down to normal range within a week just by eating a low calorie diet. Lowering your blood sugar when you are diabetic requires more than lowering caloric intake (i.e. Metformin, insulin, exercise, and a healthy diet).

Insulin can lower your blood sugar in a matter of 20 minutes from extremely high to extremely low....I'm assuming oral medications have a similar result. As well, some type 2 diabetics can control their blood sugars through diet and exercise alone, so that is very possible.

It's possible to lower BG's from the 300's to 'normal' without medication, but not common, I would call it an anomaly. I suppose the subjective here is 'normal levels'. I've seen newly diagnosed T2D target <180 mg/dl and this, I wouldn't call normal. However, it's a start but a far cry from <100 mg/dl for fasting & < 120 mg/dl 2 hr PP.

I realize you're T1 and there are differences because T2 generally comes about not due to lack of insulin production, rather an inability to use the insulin that's available, often in abundance. Provided of course you still have good beta cell function. If I recall correctly, they can die off if too & weeble around ineffectively in a glucose rich environment, exacerbating the problem. However, that may also be more the case with LADA 1, 1.5.

In any case, no, not all oral meds will lower BG the way Insulin does, Sulfonylureass might I imagine because they work by forcing your pancreas to put get your beta cells to put out more insulin. They can also produce lows in people. I really can't comment on that because I don't take those meds.

I'm T2D. If I eat something stupid that jacks me up, I can usually walk for about 30 minutes & get my PP BG down to normal levels. However, these super powers only work occasionally. I can't eat stupid stuff multiple times a day as then the trend will be high more often than not & my averages trend upwards. Not something I want.

Everyone responds to T2D differently because there are a number of different scenarios that produce the same result; high BG. Depending on what's broken in the system, different tactics can be used to control it.

edited for clarification

They're not magic, they're just candy I have 31 of them at home right now

Microwave the brownie one for 30 seconds before eating.

I microwave all of them, but 30 seconds seems like too long.

As far as protein & meal replacement bars go there are definitely worse options out there, but they are still highly processed & made with some questionable ingredients. It's always better to get your protein from whole food sources

http://blog.fooducate.com/2013/12/30/are-quest-bars-really-as-nutritious-as-claimed/

*sigh* :grumble:

Pure Magic. I will eat them all. Nom nom nom.

I eat one just about every day as an afternoon snack. They help me hit my protein and fat goals (I'm pretty bad about eating fat and I know it's necessary). I hate three flavors I love that I rotate - I literally ordered 24 bars, one in each flavor I thought sounded OK, and tried them all.

I also keep them in my bag as emergency so-I-don't-go-homicidal food.

They're pretty disgusting in my opinion.

I totally agree. Taste and consistency are gross!

At 2 bucks a pop, they're too pricey for me. At one a day that's $700 bucks a year I'd rather spend somewhere else :ohwell:

to each their own, most people have other expensive habits they have then to spend 2$ on a bar that goes toward their overall health.

The macros it provides is hard to beat for 2$ a day...

They lie about how many carbs are in there. I'm diabetic, so I know these things.

No they don't. You're probably looking at the net carbs.

The calories are usually wrong on them, so just add up the fat, carbs, protein to get the correct amount. It's usually not off that much.
Carbs - 4 calories/gram
Protein - 4 calories/gram
Fat - 9 calories/gram

Considering it spikes blood sugar like a candy bar, you have no idea what you are talking about.
http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/2011/11/03/net-carb-vs-blood-sugars-the-quest-protein-bar-test/
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/quest-bars-actual-nutritional-information-differs-from-label-lawsuit/
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/031117536688.pdf
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/031117850411.pdf

The first link doesn't prove anything.
The second link only brings me to a class action complaint for Quest which is just a lawsuit. Still doesn't prove anything.
Third link is the actual lawsuit. Still not proven because these are just allegations against Quest.
The fourth is the response to the claim. Still nothing proven.

Nothing has come of this complaint that you sent me so far. That I can find at least.

If they cause your blood sugar to spike like a candy bar would cause, then simply do not eat another. No one is forcing you to.

Do yourself a favor and stop responding to me. Stick to the main thread and eat your Quest bars if you like them so much. No one wants to debate you. You haven't made any attempt to disprove anything and only set out to bait someone in an internet quarrel over who is right. Your opinion doesn't matter at all.

You link to opinion blogs and unresolved court cases (primarily the accusations), then complain when somebody highlights the contents of your post and then attack them for having a different opinion than yours? That is quite hypocritical of you.

He deactivated soon after this so it's all good :flowerforyou:

They lie about how many carbs are in there. I'm diabetic, so I know these things.

No they don't. You're probably looking at the net carbs.

The calories are usually wrong on them, so just add up the fat, carbs, protein to get the correct amount. It's usually not off that much.
Carbs - 4 calories/gram
Protein - 4 calories/gram
Fat - 9 calories/gram

Considering it spikes blood sugar like a candy bar, you have no idea what you are talking about.
http://www.meandmydiabetes.com/2011/11/03/net-carb-vs-blood-sugars-the-quest-protein-bar-test/
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/quest-bars-actual-nutritional-information-differs-from-label-lawsuit/
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/031117536688.pdf
http://romanoroberts.com.mx/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/031117850411.pdf

Speak for yourself. They do not spike my blood sugar. I have tested them by eating one and then testing my blood sugar every half hour after eating and my BG went up a maximum of 12 points 2.5 hours after eating it. The high fiber helps prevent glucose spikes.

ETA: one glucose tablet with 4 grams of carbs spikes my BG an average of 15 points.

I eat them almost every day. They are chewy and seem satisfying. The stats are great, especially if you net your carbs against the fiber, then they seem too good to be true.... and it is. For a while I was eating 2 or 3 a day and stopped losing weight. I'm limiting myself to one a day and sometimes add a pure protein bar or a bariwse bar and have had better results.

To be honest they don't taste that great to me. And for the calories I'd rather have 2 hard boiled eggs or some yogurt with a tablespoon of peanut butter or something. I'm not like OMG REAL FOOD but not a fan of those quest bars. Plus I have doubts that they actually contain as much fiber and protein as they say. But everyone has their likes and dislikes. I eat my fair share of crappy foods

I felt the need to activate an old account just to comment here

Quest bars legitimately helped me kick a serious sugar problem. I'm not someone who needs to watch what I eat in terms of weight gain, so it's easy to see how my sugar consumption got very out of hand. Due to a ton of stress and subsequent fatigue, I found myself binging on candy a couple times a day - by the time I actually thought about what I was doing, I realized about a quarter of the calories I was eating every day was candy. I have ALWAYS had a major sweet tooth, and when I start I can't stop.

I decided to go on a two-week sugar cleanse just to see if I could do it, and it was hell. I honestly had a hard time concentrating at work because all I could think about was candy or cookies or cupcakes. I realized what a problem I had, and decided to continue the candy ban until my cravings subsided. In my hunt for sweet-treat alternatives, I found the Quest channel on YouTube and decided to give them a try. I think most of them are delicious, and they were a perfect thing to turn to when I wanted something sweet. I incorporated them into my meal plan, and eating one a day seriously enabled me to kick sugar. (I know there are a couple grams of sugar in them, but considering I was eating over 50g a day, its a major improvement) It's now been a little over 2 months since I decided to kick sugar and I don't crave candy or sweets at all. Say what you will about processed foods, but these bars changed my life. The macros are great and they help me stick to an entire day of healthy eating (and are the only processed foods I eat).

What an ignorant thing to say :huh:
Congratulations, you know it all.
I'll be sure to let all the T2D I know what pigs they are for having to take meds due to ALL that eating they do.
eyeroll.

Whatever. My doctor is rather blunt. This is what she said:

"Most people eat too much. I tell them to eat less. They ignore the advice. Then they get diabetes. And they still eat too much, so I prescribe them medicine to keep their limbs from falling off."

My dad's doctor also said that almost all cases of Type II diabetes stem from being overweight. So he told my dad to stop consuming so many calories.

What, pray tell, do you think causes Type II diabetes?

Diabetes is a symptom of a number of genetic and environmental problems, not just obesity. Why do you think that the rate of diabetes has not gone up at the same rate as obesity? Why isn't every obese person diabetic if it is caused by obesity? Or why it is more prevalent in people of African descent? It can be caused by you being exposed to gestational diabetes when in the womb. It can be caused by SSRI's and other antidepressants. It can be caused by some cancer treatments, especially in childhood. There are other genetic predispositions handed down in the family gene pool.

The incidence of Type II diabetes has been increasing in children and young adults due to the fact that more of them are overweight than ever before. Same with high blood pressure.

But not at the same rate. Correlation is not causation.