Perfect or worst time to quit smoking? (during weight loss)

I've read/heard countless people saying that they started overeating when they tried to stop smoking, or at least they craved food badly!

I'm at that point of a 'life changing habits' where I'm extremely motivated due to the wonderful results! I went from 100% couch potato to walking 40 mins everyday, I cut off all sugar and processed food and I lost 11 lbs in 2 months (still 20lbs to go)

Since these changes I don't have snacking/candy cravings and I feel great so I thought 'hey, this might as well be time to quit smoking. But now I wonder: will this motivation I'm having help in the smoke quitting success or will it ruin the rest of my progress with huge cravings and thoughts? would it be better to do it only as next goal after I finish this one?
I smoke for 22 years, 2 packs per day and have lots of anxiety!

p.s I'm aware there aren't many smokers in here, mostly healthy or trying to be healthy people but I believe some might have smoked at some point in their lives and could share how quitting affected their eating habits
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  • kelleybean1
    kelleybean1 Posts: 312 Member
    Anytime to quit is the perfect time. Do it now--today!
  • liftingandlipstick
    liftingandlipstick Posts: 1,857 Member
    I started with MFP in February. I spent a few months getting the hang of the weight loss thing, developing those healthier eating habits, then decided to quit smoking June 1st. I used Nicoderm patches for about 6 weeks, but then started having a skin reaction, and from there I went cold turkey. I think that since I had already built the habit of logging and thinking about what I was eating every day, it was easier to me to not replace smoking with eating. I did stall on the weight loss for about 6 weeks after quitting, but I didn't gain any, and now I'm not only losing at a good clip again, but it's also way easier to work out harder and longer, because my lung capacity is better :)
  • EverSinging
    EverSinging Posts: 30 Member
    Anytime to quit is the perfect time. Do it now--today!

    That was my exact thought! There is no better time to quit smoking than immediately! Good luck!
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    Anytime to quit is the perfect time. Do it now--today!

    It's not that easy. See quitting will be very stressful, if you add diet to it then one of your plans will buckle and you may even burn out on both. What I suggest is to pick a quitting day and starting that day eat at maintenance for a couple of weeks. Working out can actually make the withdrawal go faster, so focus on that every time you feel the urge. Yoga and relaxation helps too. You will only be totally miserable the first week, after that the number of times you get the urge goes down considerably, so if at the beginning smoking is all you can think about all day every minute of the day by week 2 you barely feel the urge to smoke a couple of times a day and it goes away within a few minutes.

    It's very important to keep yourself extremely busy for the time to pass faster. Do whatever you want. Rent a whole bunch of movies and shows you like for example, bury yourself in easy but time consuming work, or do whatever you want to do but don't just sit there idling, and remember: "just one" is never "just one" even years after you've quit. Don't tempt yourself thinking you have it under control.
  • Icandoityayme
    Icandoityayme Posts: 312 Member
    I smoke as well but I also know that for me personally, I can't try to do too many things at once when it comes to life changes. I know that losing weight right now is my main focus and if I incorporate trying to stop smoking at the same time, I would just be setting myself up for failure on both accounts. I would be putting myself under too much stress. That's just me though. If you can do both I admire you for that. It's just not something I can do myself.
  • Mylolamia
    Mylolamia Posts: 88 Member
    It has been a long time since I have had a cigarette (46 years) when I smoked over a pack a day. The best way is quit "cold turkey". If you are smoking two packs a day, I can only imagine what your lungs must look like. Do it now...today...don't even think about another one. Chewing gum, eat veggie snacks will help but go into this with a positive attitude...no negativity here. This is important for your health and wellbeing.
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    I'm on day 2 of quitting. Tried to start Wednesday, failed Friday. Having some health issues because of it so I'm done. I usually smoked half a pack a day unless it was a night out then it ended up being a whole pack or a pack and a half on those nights. I started when I was 18 as soon as I went to college. Here I am 12 years later...I've read conflicting thoughts on here concerning gaining weight from smoking. From what I've gathered a) if you have a calorie defecit you shouldn't gain weight regardless BUT that b) it does slow down your metabolism anyway...I quit for a year in 2006 and I gained a lot of weight but it was also an extremely stressful time. So I plan to do it differently this time. Eat healthier, start a REGULAR exercise routine, do ANYTHING BUT EAT OR SMOKE when I get cravings such as jumping jacks or yoga or meditation or walking. Trying to replace a bad habit with healthy ones. I don't have a choice. I want to smoke all I want and it's actually making me depressed sometimes that I can't (how pathetic is that?) but I don't have a choice now. I HAVE TO QUIT.

    Congrats on the walking and losing 11lbs! As far as whether or not you should wait to quit until you've reached your weight loss goal, I think you should quit as soon as possible. It will help you reach your goal if you can exercise more and breathe easier. I think that's one reason I gained so much weight. I told myself I couldn't work out because I couldn't breathe well enough. I told myself "I can do light exercise like walking, but that doesn't burn enough calories". So I just didn't exercise. At least try to quit. Give it a really good, serious try.
  • anacepeda
    anacepeda Posts: 15 Member
    but it's also way easier to work out harder and longer, because my lung capacity is better :)

    Ah! exactly! I would love, for example, to sometimes substitute my brisk walking with running but no way my lungs permit that.

    thanks for sharing your example, I loved to hear that after the 6 week stall it went back on track and you didn't gain any!
    and congratulations, 50 lb lost is great! :)
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
    Actually this is a trick that may help you. It may be silly and you may feel silly, but it helped me A LOT. When you feel the urge you can actually "smoke" a pencil. Just mimic the action of smoking with a pencil, a pen or your empty hand. The deep breathing will help calm you down and the hand to lip movement will help you tackle the oral fixation. Within a few minutes the urge will be gone, it's actually like magic!
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    Quit 4 weeks ago on Tuesday, 3 months into my calorie counting, 3.5 months into my exercise program. Smoked for 30 years.
    I'd say now is a good time!
    P.S. did the patch for the first 4 days of that then said why replace it so cold turkey! Feel great!
  • anacepeda
    anacepeda Posts: 15 Member
    thanks for all the feedback, I loved reading your stories and tips and feel really motivated!

    I don't think i'm capable of full cold turkey experience, I tried 10 years ago and I kept crying (yes, real tears), I only made it for 3 days, I was at a point that someone saying something to me, it would sound like an insult or a negative comment. I felt like the saddest person on earth and wasnt able to control my emotions

    This time I was planning on gum/patches... anything that could provide some help!

    I absolutely admire everyone capable of cold turkey, I can't even imagine how hard it must have been!
  • foor78
    foor78 Posts: 1
    I'm also wanting to quit, everyone around me is quitting!! I've been smoking for 20 years and I was happy to see your post this morning so I could get read the feedbacks as I too was thinking this morning, is now a good time to quit being this is also my first day with MFP and changing my life around for the better.
  • trinatrina1984
    trinatrina1984 Posts: 1,018 Member
    Well done on what you have achieved so far, I gave up cold turkey a couple of years ago and didn't really find it too bad because the time was right.When I gave up I found I had heaps more energy which made me more active - and doing something active kept my mind off smoking, At this point I didn't really lose any weight because I was still eating rubbish all the time but I think if you are in the right frame of mind (sounds like you are) it can be done. It will be tough but you can do it, giving up was the best decision I ever made.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    Anytime to quit is the perfect time. Do it now--today!

    Agree 100%! In terms of damage to your health smoking is far worse than being overweight.......good luck!
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    Also, there is a Quitting Smoking group on MFP. It's been pretty dead over there so to have some new members for feedback and support would be great!
  • hekate89
    hekate89 Posts: 28 Member
    I started MFP in february (or thats when I really started doing it seriously), and went on with that for a few months. In these months I started getting a pretty good work out routine as well. I had many of the same thoughts as you did on quitting smoking, and worried a lot if it just would make things worse again food-wise. I decided to quit cold turkey at the end of April. And for me it has been surprisingly easy! i just took one day at a time and was really determined. And I am still smoke-free=) Sure I miss it now and again, but the rewards I have gotten from it outweighs that by far. I say go for it. I don't think you have anything to loose!

    =)
  • nosebag1212
    nosebag1212 Posts: 621 Member
    quit smoking but buy nicotine gum/spray, once you've finished dieting then quit the nicotine altogether, its really good at killing appetite too even better than smoking imo
  • anacepeda
    anacepeda Posts: 15 Member
    What about the 'ritual smokes'? (not sure if this is the proper term, english is not my main language), those cigars that were some sort of mandatory ritual? did you change the whole situation or learned to live it without the cigars?

    for example, I love drinking an espresso and I always smoke 2 cigars (5 mins apart) after that, its like I can't do 1 without the other

    Or with alcohol, at home I never drink it but if there's a bday party or celebrations with drinks, every single time I drink wine, its yells for cigars

    did you just stopped doing the things that made you want to smoke?
  • pipertargaryen
    pipertargaryen Posts: 303 Member
    For me, it was perfect.

    I couldn't work out much because I couldn't breathe. I quit in March (I was down about 20lbs at that point), and although I was dreading the weight gain everyone has warned about for years, I figured I would have to do it anyway, weight be damned. For my health. I was on the patch for 1 week, didn't like how it made my arm feel, then went cold-turkey.

    Well, I've lost another 46lbs since then. It can absolutely be done. I didn't allow myself to gain weight, basically. Just like I don't allow myself to binge, etc. Discipline. I'm not saying that it's easy. I miss smoking more than I miss eating like a beast. But it can totally be done.
  • caliv0608
    caliv0608 Posts: 18 Member
    I'm sure it's different for everyone, but for me, if I were to make too many changes at once I would get overwhelmed. You seem pretty well established in your new routine of healthy eating and exercise, though so this would probably be a good time.

    My doctor said that how much you smoked determines what type of tobacco cessation tools you should use. For example, I only smoke 2-3 cigs per day. When I asked about Chantix, he was like "Yeah, no". From their viewpoint, 2 cigs a day is in "just go cold turkey" range. But to me, the last couple are the hardest to give up. Cutting back was no problem. Losing the last one is harder.

    What helped me quit for long periods of time in the past was using situations to my advantage. Once I got a really bad cold and didn't smoke (never smoke when I don't feel good). Since I hadn't smoked for two weeks, just kept on not smoking once I felt better. Also, you'll need to replace the activity with something else, and if you're like me, may have to give up coffee until you're well quit. LOL. After a couple weeks, you'll find you get more out of your walks and have so much more energy and that great feeling helps motivate to stay quit. I've heard it takes 21 days to form or remove a habit. Good luck!
  • suelegal
    suelegal Posts: 1,282 Member
    So as a person who had quit a bazillion times, and who is now 18 years smoke-free, what I did was prepare myself for a couple of weeks. I focused on a specific date and said, I will stop then. I joined an online group of about 15 people who also wanted to quit smoking. I smoked right up until midnight the night before! Then, everytime I wanted a cigarette after that I spoke outloud - yes I do want a cigarette but I am smoke-free now so I won't. I messaged the group everytime I wanted to smoke instead. The cravings diminished over time, the first 2 weeks were VERY difficult for me, the next month less so. My friends tell me I was bezerk for a month. I don't remember feeling bezerk or acting so, but apparently I was "intense" during that period. Oh well, so far, I've been successful! Truthfully, these days, I don't like the smell of smoke at all - and hate stale smoke smell - in rooms on clothes etc.

    If you want, friend me and everytime you want to smoke, message me instead of picking up the cigarette! It helps to have a partner in that journey
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    did you just stopped doing the things that made you want to smoke?

    I'm seriously contemplating this actually. For a while I was also drinking a lot up until 2 months ago or so (which also caused tremendous weight gain). Last night I went on a dinner cruise for work which of course involved alcohol. The craving was so bad I could barely stand it and I was getting upset (mind you I was on a boat with no escape lol but seriously) One of my guy friends offered me a cigarette. He didn't know I'm trying to quit. My friend grabbed his arm and said "NO. She's trying to quit." Although I'm so thankful for her consideration, which I told her, I wanted to take one of his cigarettes SO BAD and I would have. I wasn't having that great of a time because all I kept thinking about was how I wanted a cigarette but my friends were there and wouldn't let me smoke. I wanted to walk across the street to the drug store afterwards and buy a pack before I left to go home, but my friend dropped me off at my car and she would be wondering why I didn't get in the car and leave, so I didn't buy that pack. I feel imprisoned if I smoke or if I don't smoke. I love going to a bar, having drinks with friends and chain smoking....but the bar near me allows smoking inside and lots of people smoke there. The temptation would be too strong, so I'm going to try to stay away from there.

    The time I want to smoke is after work. I don't get a lunch break or to go outside after work, so I have no choice but to not smoke for 8 hours. When I would get in my car after work and light a cigarette, it was such a relief. Now I just have to tell myself "You CAN drive home (or to work) without smoking. You don't HAVE to smoke." I'm going to replace that with other activities such as "You CAN drink coffee without smoking cigarettes." Repeat.
  • marciebrian
    marciebrian Posts: 853 Member
    Anytime to quit is the perfect time. Do it now--today!

    Completely agree. I quit 6 years ago and its the best gift I ever gave myself... Good luck!
  • lisamechellehess
    lisamechellehess Posts: 3 Member
    I quit smoking about 8 years ago and did so without craving a lot of food. My big problem was nicotine addiction so I decided when I quit, I wasn't going to push myself to get off nicotine super fast as I had terrible withdrawal symptoms (one of which was craving fats and carbs) but that was the least of them. Over a period of 3 years, I started with the gum (which alleviated the oral cravings) then when I put enough time between me and cigarettes, I started on the patch and stayed on it for 2 years until I could wean myself down (each step was difficult for me)

    Everyone is different but I hope the advice you get out of this is that if you should use the tools you have for as long as you need to get off cigarettes. There will come a day when you never want another one but you need to be patient and kind to yourself throughout this process and don't rush getting off nicotine too fast. Good luck to you, rooting for you!
  • anacepeda
    anacepeda Posts: 15 Member
    Thanks for all the feedback :)

    I noticed caliv0608 brought up the Chantix (Champix here in Europe), well you have no idea how much I googled, asked, read, exhausted the whole internet about it.
    It was even a bigger dilemma, I heard wonders from someone I know irl and as usual i googled it, there were horror stories of suicide, depression, joint pain, vivid dreams.. you name it..
    And there was feedback from hundreds of people who never were able to quit it until they used chantix

    Then I decided to ask at the pharmacy, they said all people that is buying there, which are dozens, only a man failed to quit.
    At last I asked a doctor, he explained me that the depression and suicide were not induced by the chantix itself but because of the nicotine deprivation and those were people already with a depression history etc. He highly recommended it due to the amount I smoke.

    I was short on cash on long term to buy the entire treatment (400 euros) so I just put that on my 'maybe' imaginary box and its still there

    I know not everything on the internet is truth but its just so weird some doctors assuring its fine and then some people saying, 'omg, I stopped taking chantix and still have health issues because of that, stay away, ruunnn'.. its would be nice having that big help on my side but those people testimonials rly scare me!
  • Good luck with it. My neighbor hasn't smoked in something like 3 years. She did put on something like 20lbs, but she's happy with it. I would just give myself incentives, like trying out new activities and saving up for stuff that I really, really want.
  • rayonrainbows
    rayonrainbows Posts: 423 Member
    when i quit, i went cold turkey (no patches or gum available where i live), and the only thing that could regulate/mediate my urges was SUGAR and tons of it (and i'm not even a sugar-lover person)!

    i think i did gain 5-10 pounds, but i stupidly wasn't using MFP to count calories.

    just think of how much it would suck to start gaining the weight back AFTER you finally get to your fitness goal, if you wait to quit until after you've lost the weight. :(

    i'd say do it now! and like a couple others have mentioned, maybe try to eat at maintenance for a couple of weeks, to help with the stress on your body.

    it's going to suck and you're going to be an evil b*ch for about a week and you're going to be angry and sad and moody and stressed and high-strung, but after a week or two it starts going away. and just remember every single time you have a drag, you're restarting all of your progress up to that point, making the suffering for nothing. but it's going to be SO WORTH IT! :)

    either way, congrats on the positive changes, and good luck!! ~*~*~
  • laurenz2501
    laurenz2501 Posts: 839 Member
    just think of how much it would suck to start gaining the weight back AFTER you finally get to your fitness goal, if you wait to quit until after you've lost the weight. :(
    and just remember every single time you have a drag, you're restarting all of your progress up to that point, making the suffering for nothing. but it's going to be SO WORTH IT! :)

    SO TRUE!!!

    rayonrainbows: Where do you live that they don't have gum or patches available??
  • Janette3x4
    Janette3x4 Posts: 135
    Hi! Congrats on your weight loss! I haven't smoked a cigarette in 7 months (today! Yay) and I smoked for 30 years. I tried to quit many, many times. For me what worked was harm reduction. I switched to an ecig. Not the kind you buy over the counter but one you can fill yourself with whatever level of nicotine you want. And you can buy organic, so that the juice only has 3 ingredients. I am not saying it is as healthy as quitting cold turkey, but it does reduce your harm. You can start on high or medium nicotine and work your way down to low or none! As soon as I switched, I felt better. No more coughing or wheezing, and my lung capacity went up. It's not for everyone and if you are successful any other way I applaud you! But for me this is the longest I have gone without lighting up. Oh, and I had no weight gain. I did it for health reasons and since then, everything health wise has improved. Good luck!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,972 Member
    Quitting smoking should be FIRST on any list of self improvement.

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