He didnt gain the weight back after crash diet

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  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    Not all methods result in returning to starting weight with less lean mass and more fat then before the diet though. Someone who loses 50 lbs while eating adequate protein and engaging in resistance training will likely retain more mass than someone who loses 50 lbs having poor protein intake and no resistance training. If both parties then regain the 50 lbs, the person who lost more lean mass will ultimately have gained more fat than the person who retained more mass.

    It doesn't work that way. The person who lost more LBM on the way down will gain more LBM on the way up, as it takes more LBM to move the excess fat around. End results are all about the same.

    There are endless studies on this - no method of dieting or "liftestyle change" has better long term outcome than any other. That doesn't mean that some methods aren't better than others - there are clear differences for those who succeed - it means that people fail to stick with any and all methods at roughly the same rate.
    LOL if only it was that easy to gain lean tissue.... You don't gain lean mass at the rate which it is lost by simply getting fat again. On that absurd claim, I'm done here!
  • sharonKay65
    sharonKay65 Posts: 93 Member
    About 10 years ago, I lost a good amount of weight in a relatively short amount of time. I lost 70 pounds in 4 months, but it had to be from the stress of my Divorce. There was way too much stress and I started losing weight, but I was working 2 full time jobs that were each very demanding physically so I was able to keep the weight off for a few years, then l I started to slowly gain in back after I quit my job and was working a desk job during the day, but still working Retail at night and on the weekends. My point is, sure I lost the weight, but I didn't necessarily always make the best choices and so here I am trying again to lose it but go about it at a much slower, healthier and sustainable rate.
  • 1princesswarrior
    1princesswarrior Posts: 1,242 Member
    Not all methods result in returning to starting weight with less lean mass and more fat then before the diet though. Someone who loses 50 lbs while eating adequate protein and engaging in resistance training will likely retain more mass than someone who loses 50 lbs having poor protein intake and no resistance training. If both parties then regain the 50 lbs, the person who lost more lean mass will ultimately have gained more fat than the person who retained more mass.

    It doesn't work that way. The person who lost more LBM on the way down will gain more LBM on the way up, as it takes more LBM to move the excess fat around. End results are all about the same.

    There are endless studies on this - no method of dieting or "liftestyle change" has better long term outcome than any other. That doesn't mean that some methods aren't better than others - there are clear differences for those who succeed - it means that people fail to stick with any and all methods at roughly the same rate.

    I'd really like to see this for a typical person who gains less than 30lbs (just pulled that number from my head) or 50lbs, what is the threshold where that becomes true?

    Maybe my circumstances are different but when I gained my weight I was extremely inactive, didn't even leave the house actually so I hardly used my muscles, let alone do any kind of training to gain any healthy LBM.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
    In...

    ...to see if MFP is changing its stance on crash diets.

    Looks like it.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    Weight is regained.

    That is true.

    But it isn't a reason to avoid this approach, because EVERY approach results in similarly depressing rates of failure and weight regain.

    ^this

    You would think people would want to take the approach that minimized LBM loss while still making reasonable progress towards their goal of fat loss. That would certainly seem ideal to me.
  • Amitysk
    Amitysk Posts: 705 Member
    Well, since we have nothing to go on but your completely unscientific and information starved story, this question cannot be intelligently answered.

    /end thread

    true.

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    Awww baby!!

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