Physically Unable to Perform: Which exercises, why?
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Cannot do any type of side lunge. Yikes! My knees revolt instantly.
Also, v-raise type sit-ups. I can do a v-sit, but cannot start from lying down and raise my straight legs up into a v -- completely strains my lower back.
I don't like this aging thing, but that's a big part of the reason I'm working out more. I don't want to be that frail little old lady!0 -
Squats or anything that puts pressure on the spine.0
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I'm not older but there are a lot of exercises I struggle with as a result of problems with basic motor control due to neurological problems. I used to try to modify them but now I substitute completely.0
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I used to love running. I was the best in my class among the girls, and loved long distance runs. Unfortunately when I was in university my knee suddenly twisted in a strange way and later it turned out the bones in my left knee are abnormally located since birth and I'm not allowed to run anymore. I don't know why it all seemed normal until I was like 23. But I do miss running.0
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Running.....osteoarthritis in both of my knees.0
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It was during one of my breaks from the gym (not this last one, the one prior) that I went in reckless and tried the pull-down and bam! pain in the upper right part of the shoulder around the suprapinatus area. It's never been the same since then and if I sit wrong at my desk (office drone 50 hours a week or more) I will aggravate it.
this is really more because of the injury itself then your age, although the two are intertwined, and operationally there isn't much difference between one and the other anyway.
it may take physical therapy but its not something you simply have to except IMO.
other limitations that you might ascribe to age my really just be weak muscles that need to be strengthed. That is very related to age also, but doesn't mean you can't over come it.
If its a joint problem (like my tenis elbow) stopping altogether for a while might be the answer.
if its an osteo thing or arthritis then you have a right to ***** about your age lol.
i'm 35 and i suppose i have a lot to learn in this department, but its starting.0 -
I used to love running. I was the best in my class among the girls, and loved long distance runs. Unfortunately when I was in university my knee suddenly twisted in a strange way and later it turned out the bones in my left knee are abnormally located since birth and I'm not allowed to run anymore. I don't know why it all seemed normal until I was like 23. But I do miss running.
I have a birth defect on one of my vertebrae.. it never bothered me either until I was about 35.
I wonder this all the time. Why wasn't it bothering me all along?0 -
I'm 54 but able to do more than I could at 44 so I guess that's progress!
Don't squat or deadlift and limited to around bodyweight for OHP - anything that cause big vertical spinal compression hits my three badly degenerated lumbar discs and causes nerve impingement.
Limited to about 200kg on seated leg press or I get bone on bone grinding in my left knee (missing PCL and lost 90% of lateral meniscus). Leg extensions rarely a sensible option either, very sensitive to different angles and ROM. Lunges out of the question due to missing PCL (knee slops backwards and forwards!).
Very limited tolerance to distance running - above injuries plus old patella fracture and double ligament laxity in other knee. 5k on a treadmill is often more than enough. Outside much less, fast 3k perhaps.
Can't get handlebars low enough on my bicycle for a good aero position, neck has too much general wear and tear to be able to see where I'm going if I drop too low (bit of an issue out on the roads!).
Elbow tendon hurts on any pull exercises (I wear a under & over elbow brace which helps).
Used to suffer shoulder problems on bench press (old supraspinatus tendon injury from 1979 plus more recent AC joint injury). But I changed technique from flat back to tucked under shoulder blades and now close to lifetime best with no pain.
Think that's about it!!0 -
True. I agree it is more the former than the later, but I have a hard time discounting that my age is something of factor now - its why I rather avoid any problems by not doing pull-downs.this is really more because of the injury itself then your age, although the two are intertwined, and operationally there isn't much difference between one and the other anyway.
When I injured my shoulder (8+ years ago) it was undoubtedly weakness.other limitations that you might ascribe to age my really just be weak muscles that need to be strengthed. That is very related to age also, but doesn't mean you can't over come it.
But on that note, now that I've returned to training and I was finally able to deadlift and squat again I was plagued with weak muscles - even pulled my back. I ceased both and spent another month doing assistance exercises to strengthen those areas and now I am back and progressing on those power movements beyond my last ceiling.
I totally agree.If its a joint problem (like my tenis elbow) stopping altogether for a while might be the answer.
Let's hope not!if its an osteo thing or arthritis then you have a right to ***** about your age lol.0 -
jeebus Matt, you're a big guy.
Mine I think is something I can't yet do due to strength, or I just don't know how to control the movement.
Plank Pushups.
Essentially what is shown here, but omit the middle image. My trainer can do it, I just can't yet. I can do both planks and pushups, but something about the transition happening with both arms at the same time I just can't do yet.0 -
I'm 54 but able to do more than I could at 44 so I guess that's progress!
Yep!. I'm 40 and most things I can do better than when I was in my 20s & 30s. Definitely much stronger now than I ever have been.
The only lift I really struggle with is Overhead Squats. It's not a strength thing - I am just always VERY tight in my neck/rhomboids/traps so it makes it very difficult for me to have an "active" shoulder and keep my form. It's getting better, but it's a slow process. I am admittedly horrible about mobility work, but know I need to get on it NOW or I'm going to be very sorry down the road.0 -
jeebus Matt, you're a big guy.
Mine I think is something I can't yet do due to strength, or I just don't know how to control the movement.
Plank Pushups.
Essentially what is shown here, but omit the middle image. My trainer can do it, I just can't yet. I can do both planks and pushups, but something about the transition happening with both arms at the same time I just can't do yet.
that's an uncomfortable move- hard on elbows and shoulders- I don't see how that's any more advantageous to do vs going up one at a time.
I wouldn't sweat it- seriously.0 -
I can see some use in like a borked up situation where you have to mantel a ledge from an odd angle. It's just frustrating as hell to not be able to do.
but yeah, not going to sweat it too hard.0 -
Mine I think is something I can't yet do due to strength, or I just don't know how to control the movement.
Plank Pushups
.Essentially what is shown here, but omit the middle image. My trainer can do it, I just can't yet. I can do both planks and pushups, but something about the transition happening with both arms at the same time I just can't do yet.
I think its just practice - its one of those movements that you don't naturally do, so when you first try it, its a struggle, but with a bit of repetition you should get there relatively soon.0 -
I have degenerative disc disease and have had one surgery. I don't do so much walking/jogging anymore, at least not any great distances, because of the nerve damage. I have completed a couple 5k's in the last year but I felt completely destroyed afterward. =/ Everytime I take a walk I end up with spasms in my back, hips and legs. In the meantime while I lose weight (I have at least 260 lbs to lose) I use the elliptical because it's easier on my joints and back. I also have to be very careful when I lift weights, VEEERY careful... x__x
ETA: I'm only 29 and had my first surgery at 19.0 -
Well, recently, I was prevented from doing full below parallel squats after popping my left adductor! But after 5 weeks of deloaded baby steps, no RICE, emailing form videos, talking it out and a serendipitous trip on the stairs, I should be back at it tonight! LOL
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And thanks again for turning me on to what is wrong with RICE. Glad you're back in the game!Well, recently, I was prevented from doing full below parallel squats after popping my left adductor! But after 5 weeks of deloaded baby steps, no RICE, emailing form videos, talking it out and a serendipitous trip on the stairs, I should be back at it tonight! LOL
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But on that note, now that I've returned to training and I was finally able to deadlift and squat again I was plagued with weak muscles - even pulled my back. I ceased both and spent another month doing assistance exercises to strengthen those areas and now I am back and progressing on those power movements beyond my last ceiling.
then we are of the same mind. i'm glad you found a solution for your sqauting, hopefully you will find away out for your shoulders as well.
my biggest problem these days is telling the difference between more 'typical' aches/pains and a developing over use injury0 -
Conventional dead lifts are hard on my lower back so I do Jefferson dead lifts instead. I also have major shoulder/ t spine mobility issues so I can't do snatches.0
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And thanks again for turning me on to what is wrong with RICE. Glad you're back in the game!Well, recently, I was prevented from doing full below parallel squats after popping my left adductor! But after 5 weeks of deloaded baby steps, no RICE, emailing form videos, talking it out and a serendipitous trip on the stairs, I should be back at it tonight! LOL
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whats wrong with RICE? seems to help me but imagine it can be different from injury to injury. helps with tendonitis... and probably any kind of 'itis'.
think i'm going to go buy a tommy copper sleeve right now actually lol0 -
And thanks again for turning me on to what is wrong with RICE. Glad you're back in the game!Well, recently, I was prevented from doing full below parallel squats after popping my left adductor! But after 5 weeks of deloaded baby steps, no RICE, emailing form videos, talking it out and a serendipitous trip on the stairs, I should be back at it tonight! LOL
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whats wrong with RICE? seems to help me but imagine it can be different from injury to injury. helps with tendonitis... and probably any kind of 'itis'.
think i'm going to go buy a tommy copper sleeve right now actually lol
To each their own of course but based on my own personal experience after a squat injury (adductor popped) I found RICE to be a hindrance. I deloaded, stayed active in other ways and have slowly been making way back to a full squat after 5 weeks. This injury has been a real pain in the *kitten* and came across a good article about RICE during the process..
http://www.caringmedical.com/sports-injuries/rice-why-we-do-not-recommend-it/
http://www.caringmedical.com/sports-injuries/meat-why-we-recommend-it/0 -
A friend brought this to my attention:whats wrong with RICE? seems to help me but imagine it can be different from injury to injury. helps with tendonitis... and probably any kind of 'itis'.
think i'm going to go buy a tommy copper sleeve right now actually lol
"For many athletes a doctor’s recommendation of the RICE protocol for healing their sports related soft tissue issue injury was seen as the gold standard of care. However, this treatment is now under criticism from a surprising source, the doctor who created the RICE treatment guidelines, Gabe Mirkin, MD. In a recent article on his own website, Dr. Mirkin admits that both ice and rest (key components of RICE) may delay healing.[/b]" Source: http://www.caringmedical.com/sports-injuries/rice-why-we-do-not-recommend-it/
The article seems pretty solid... Oh *kitten* I just noticed the "prolotheraphy" on the side there. Damn.. these guys are quacks. (But that may not make the article necessarily wrong. I will need to do some more digging into Mirkin's actual research.)
"Prolotherapy" is described on SBM as:
"Prolotherapy is a treatment technique used for chronic myofascial pain, back pain, osteoarthritis, or sports injury. It involves repeated injections of dextrose solution or other irritating substances into the joint, tendon, or painful tissue in order to provoke a regenerative tissue response."
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/prolotherapy/
Furthermore, SBM goes on to state that:
"Therefore speculative explanations as to how prolotherapy might work are insufficient to recommend the treatment, but neither does low plausibility rule out an effect. In this case clinical evidence is critical.
It has been almost 60 years since Hackett’s first edition describing prolotherapy. In that time prolotherapy has remained on the fringe, without sufficient high-quality clinical research to clearly establish its effectiveness. This is always a red flag for me. Why is the clinical research lacking over such a long period of time? Either researchers have been unable to obtain positive results with rigorous trials, or those using prolotherapy are insufficiently interested in testing whether or not the treatment actually works."
Ugh. This will teach me to do a little further research.
This is a *huge* skeptic fail of mine.
Apologies.0 -
A friend brought this to my attention:whats wrong with RICE? seems to help me but imagine it can be different from injury to injury. helps with tendonitis... and probably any kind of 'itis'.
think i'm going to go buy a tommy copper sleeve right now actually lol
"For many athletes a doctor’s recommendation of the RICE protocol for healing their sports related soft tissue issue injury was seen as the gold standard of care. However, this treatment is now under criticism from a surprising source, the doctor who created the RICE treatment guidelines, Gabe Mirkin, MD. In a recent article on his own website, Dr. Mirkin admits that both ice and rest (key components of RICE) may delay healing.[/b]" Source: http://www.caringmedical.com/sports-injuries/rice-why-we-do-not-recommend-it/
The article seems pretty solid... Oh *kitten* I just noticed the "prolotheraphy" on the side there. Damn.. these guys are quacks. (But that may not make the article necessarily wrong. I will need to do some more digging into Mirkin's actual research.)
"Prolotherapy" is described on SBM as:
"Prolotherapy is a treatment technique used for chronic myofascial pain, back pain, osteoarthritis, or sports injury. It involves repeated injections of dextrose solution or other irritating substances into the joint, tendon, or painful tissue in order to provoke a regenerative tissue response."
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/prolotherapy/
Furthermore, SBM goes on to state that:
"Therefore speculative explanations as to how prolotherapy might work are insufficient to recommend the treatment, but neither does low plausibility rule out an effect. In this case clinical evidence is critical.
It has been almost 60 years since Hackett’s first edition describing prolotherapy. In that time prolotherapy has remained on the fringe, without sufficient high-quality clinical research to clearly establish its effectiveness. This is always a red flag for me. Why is the clinical research lacking over such a long period of time? Either researchers have been unable to obtain positive results with rigorous trials, or those using prolotherapy are insufficiently interested in testing whether or not the treatment actually works."
Ugh. This will teach me to do a little further research.
This is a *huge* skeptic fail of mine.
Apologies.
that does seem kind of crack potish. dextrose is chemically identicaly to glucose (blood sugar), not sure why it has a different name. but i imagine anything you inject into a joint could cause irritation.
When i had a lower back injury... if i rested long enough the pain would subside, but when i returned to exercise it always came back. had to intelligently strengthen my lower back to handle the exercise. So in that instance RICE definetly wasn't going to solve the problem.
things were getting so bad with my tenis elbow, i was about to go to the dr and demand some off the wall treatment like the above (have been through two rounds of PT).
its dramatically improved in the past few weeks... and the only thing i can think of that i did differently was get into a small motorcycle accident lol. i damaged the shoulder of the other arm pretty good. as the shoulder got better, my elbow/forearm greatly improved. could be just a coincidence (but i've been dealing with the elbow for almost a year now), but idk, maybe your body releases some kind of healing hormone if you have trama that it doesn't when you have an over use injury. lol total broscience i know.0 -
i have a left shoulder issue as well but totally fine for lat pulldowns. one exercise i will probably never be able to do again with any good amount of weight is the power snatch. i just dont think my shoulder would be able to stabilize itself in the joint quick enough.
i also have to pick and chose my battles in terms of flat bench press. once a week is good twice a week aint happening
do those copper sleeves actually work? i mean in general i LOVE compression but are the copper ones that much better?0 -
A friend brought this to my attention:whats wrong with RICE? seems to help me but imagine it can be different from injury to injury. helps with tendonitis... and probably any kind of 'itis'.
think i'm going to go buy a tommy copper sleeve right now actually lol
"For many athletes a doctor’s recommendation of the RICE protocol for healing their sports related soft tissue issue injury was seen as the gold standard of care. However, this treatment is now under criticism from a surprising source, the doctor who created the RICE treatment guidelines, Gabe Mirkin, MD. In a recent article on his own website, Dr. Mirkin admits that both ice and rest (key components of RICE) may delay healing.[/b]" Source: http://www.caringmedical.com/sports-injuries/rice-why-we-do-not-recommend-it/
The article seems pretty solid... Oh *kitten* I just noticed the "prolotheraphy" on the side there. Damn.. these guys are quacks. (But that may not make the article necessarily wrong. I will need to do some more digging into Mirkin's actual research.)
"Prolotherapy" is described on SBM as:
"Prolotherapy is a treatment technique used for chronic myofascial pain, back pain, osteoarthritis, or sports injury. It involves repeated injections of dextrose solution or other irritating substances into the joint, tendon, or painful tissue in order to provoke a regenerative tissue response."
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/prolotherapy/
Furthermore, SBM goes on to state that:
"Therefore speculative explanations as to how prolotherapy might work are insufficient to recommend the treatment, but neither does low plausibility rule out an effect. In this case clinical evidence is critical.
It has been almost 60 years since Hackett’s first edition describing prolotherapy. In that time prolotherapy has remained on the fringe, without sufficient high-quality clinical research to clearly establish its effectiveness. This is always a red flag for me. Why is the clinical research lacking over such a long period of time? Either researchers have been unable to obtain positive results with rigorous trials, or those using prolotherapy are insufficiently interested in testing whether or not the treatment actually works."
Ugh. This will teach me to do a little further research.
This is a *huge* skeptic fail of mine.
Apologies.
LOL, Never heard of prolotherapy before and won't be delving into it but in my case deloading and functional movement was way more effective at getting back into squats than using RICE and as you know, came across this particular article after the fact and tend to agree with it. Upon further of my own research, here is a more recent scientific based abstract that supports icing causing a delay in muscle injury recovery from the Journal of Strength & Conditioning, 2013. I would use ice initially for pain/ swelling but not for anything more than that.
http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Abstract/2013/05000/Topical_Cooling__Icing__Delays_Recovery_From.24.aspx0 -
Due to some horse-back riding injuries, I can't do anything that puts weight on my wrist joint if it's bent a certain way (the position you would normally be in for basic push-ups). It's a bit frustrating since I have to do any plank work or pushup etc on my fists with my wrists straight, not bent.0
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My lower back hurts from conventional dead lifts so i have switched over to Jefferson dead lifts and now have no pain an can go heavier. I also have bad shoulder mobility so overhead squats and snatches are a no go.0
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Barbell squats. No real Idea why, but the bar across my shoulders that way is just too much. The pad that that is supposed help with that only puts a funny torque on my shoulders, so dumbbell squats for me. I don't do squats as low as I'm *supposed* to, because my low back and knees ask me not to, but you can't let what you can't do interfere with what you can do, right?
When I do flat bench moves, I have to be the jerk who puts their feet on the bench, because I am short, and if I put me feet on the floor I have to arch my back too much.0 -
Right now, most of them. Thoracic disc bulge x 2 and a stress fracture of the left clavicle.
Hopefully back to full PL movements by the end of the year.0 -
Wow. Sorry to hear that. That's gotta be tough to deal with. I hope you recover soon.Right now, most of them. Thoracic disc bulge x 2 and a stress fracture of the left clavicle.
Hopefully back to full PL movements by the end of the year.0
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