Sleep Aids- Need more ideas...
iifym_girl
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Hey! So I've been having trouble with sleep. Not being able to fall asleep, waking up through out the night, and not feeling rested the next morning. I purchased Alteril Natural Sleep Aid Fast Acting Liquid Gelcaps from Target and have used them for 4 nights in a row. I experienced side effects of very vivid dreams/nightmares and still wake up throughout the night. I would wake up feeling foggy in the head and with a headache that would take a while to get rid of. I stopped taking it after the 4th night.
Last night was the first night I didn't take any and I still had vivid dreams and kept waking up. *siiighhh* I'm at the point where I don't even look forward to going to sleep. Does anyone have any tips or sleep aids that they have a good experience with? Melatonin alone doesn't help me either. I prefer something natural but at this point, I think I'm pretty open to anything.
Thanks ladies and gents
Last night was the first night I didn't take any and I still had vivid dreams and kept waking up. *siiighhh* I'm at the point where I don't even look forward to going to sleep. Does anyone have any tips or sleep aids that they have a good experience with? Melatonin alone doesn't help me either. I prefer something natural but at this point, I think I'm pretty open to anything.
Thanks ladies and gents
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sleep is more about a routine then anything. watch caffeine intake (how much and how late in the day), your sleep environment, time to unwind, finding time to exercise during the day, getting some fresh air, clean sheets, etc... all those hints that seem too simple are it.
if you have done all of this, then please see a doctor to ask about meds.
sleep is also not a 1-to-1 thing. if your sleep is messed up one night, it will take many more than one to make up for it.0 -
Chamomile tea, with honey and milk. Works like a charm for me.0
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Melatonin can be helpful if you have trouble falling asleep early enough, but fall asleep fairly easily later. Take the melatonin 3 hours before you want to be sleeping.
The main things for insomnia are to stick to a regular time to get up and get out of bed, do a regular night time routine each night when getting ready to go to sleep, but wait until you are actually sleepy to go to bed, remind yourself to trust your body to get enough sleep if you give it the opportunity through routines.
Sleep medicines can be helpful for a short course to get on track, but are a bad idea for long-term. The best thing especially if you want to go the all-natural route would probably be to find a therapist who does CBT-I (cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia).0 -
I am a chronic insomniac. I've tried nearly everything from teas to melatonin to actual sleeping pills. The only thing I've found to help manage the issue effectively is glycine. It's a simple sugar that you can buy at any health food or supplement shop. I just take one teaspoon directly about an hour before I want to go to bed. It doesn't make you sleepy so it won't help you fall asleep. It will, however, make your sleep more productive and prevent you from waking up a lot during the night. It works be sort of short-circuiting the alerting mechanism that keeps waking you up, which is why in much higher doses it's used to treat people with severe bipolar disorder. It basically makes 4 hours of sleep feel like 7 for me. And I'm never drowsy when I wake up. The one drawback, and this keeps me from using it more often than I do, is that you need to have had no food or water for at least an hour before taking it in order for it to work. I'm usually quite thirsty at night so that works against me.0
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How much melatonin do you take? I need to take 9mg in order for it to work for me (and I'm a diagnosed insomniac).
Routine is everything. You MUST go to sleep and wake up at the same time every day.0 -
Awesome. Thank you all for the feedback. I do need to make it a routine to have set time to go to bed, more now that school has started back up.0
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I really struggle with this, and have a few tried and true tricks. First, I use a program called flux for my computer to adjust the light in my computer to more yellow tones, and less blue tones. Blue light tells your brain that the sun is still up, so if you can't just put the computer away (like I cannot seem to do), this helps. Then I take a supplement called naturecalm that is basically just magnesium, which works! It's for stress, too, but I can't take it any other time of day because I'll conk out. I got that at whole foods and I think you can buy smaller packets to try before you get the bigger container. Lastly, I listen to meditation tapes or apps. Not being able to relax is my biggest obstacle, I find it hard to get my brain to stop reeling at the end of the day. As an above poster mentioned, repetition is key, so try to find what works and make it a habit. Good luck!0
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One problem I was having was there were too many lights in my room (from computer monitor, cable box, TV, phone charging stand, etc.). So I put some blackout tape over the lights and it made a world of difference. Also, I started meditating (or at least my version of meditation) before bed. Deep breathing in and out through the nose for several minutes, and just let the thoughts float way. I was surprised at how much that helped. I've tried melatonin, but it never worked well for me, but I know others swear by it.0
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I take two Benadryl every night for a goods night sleep. I also removed the tv from the bedroom.0
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Soothing music.
I have a playlist that I listen to each night and I find that everytime I hear a song from there I now get sleepy and am typically asleep by song 3.0 -
I take Melatonin almost every night now that I'm a grad student. I'm a night person by nature & could easily stay up all night & sleep all day, but I have to force myself to have a more normal sleep pattern during the school year. Fairly low doses work for me. I used to take the Midnite chewable pills & I think they're only like 1.5mg, but nowadays I take 3mg pills. I like Melatonin because it's natural. Normal sleeping pills scare me a little bit. I'm sure you could take larger amounts without it being harmful, but I would do some research on it first.
I second the advice to take it a few hours before bed and to get on a good schedule. Melatonin works pretty fast for me, but my mom has to take it like 3 hours before she goes to bed or it doesn't work at all.
I also really like ambient noise. I downloaded the SimplyNoise app and my favorite is the brown noise. I think the app was $.99, but I thought it was worth buying because it has a sleep timer, so you can set it to play for an hour or so instead of all night. I don't use it as much anymore, but it really helped when I was living in an apartment that had annoyingly loud exposed pipes & was located in a noisy part of town.0 -
Relaxation music for me and the Grand Daughter (6 yrs) as well. I like the Flutes and drum beats but no singing.
One suggestion, If you are taking prescribed medication be sure to check with your Doctor or the Pharmacy before taking any additional supplements to make sure they won't cause issues being taken together.0 -
sleep is more about a routine then anything. watch caffeine intake (how much and how late in the day), your sleep environment, time to unwind, finding time to exercise during the day, getting some fresh air, clean sheets, etc... all those hints that seem too simple are it.
if you have done all of this, then please see a doctor to ask about meds.
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I see others have mentioned this...but removing the TV and computer from your bedroom is very important (in my opinion) as well. If you use a smartphone (and I think everyone but me does lol) try to //seriously// limit the time spent on it in bed or even in your bedroom. If your bed is a place where you hang out, read, etc...try to change that habit...maybe make a new spot outside the bedroom your go to for those activities.0 -
Google "sleep hygiene". Behavioral changes can make a big difference in your sleep, I promise!
That being said, I do use Tylenol PM for times of high stress, or when I need a really good night's sleep after a few nights of not sleeping well for whatever reason. Do not use it regularly though! I take a half dose or else I get vivid dreams/nightmares, 30 min before I want to go to bed. Generally helps me get deep sleep when I wouldn't otherwise. But 95% of the time, good sleep hygiene will make all the difference in the world.0 -
I've had good results with a Magnesium supplement called Natural Calm and I also do low dose (1.5mg) melatonin if I need it, even in the middle of the night. It's the only thing I have found that cuts through the repetitive thoughts that keep me up. Melatonin is well known for causing vivid dreams though.
Doxylamine is an OTC sleep aid (Unisom in the orange box) that is incredibly sedating, though you will eventually develop a tolerance to it. It's basically Benadryl's big brother.0 -
I use Melatonin on occasion, often when I had a stressful day at work and full of anxiety. I take 1 3mg pill 1 hour before bed and it knocks me right out.
You can become dependant on this supplement and your tolerance could increase if you take it long-term.0 -
Mid Nite tablets helped me, but i believe they are melatonin..0
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Yup, routine is the key.
Set the alarm on your phone for the same time every day.
Not for waking up... but for going to bed.0 -
I agree with Melatonin, good sleep habits, limit caffiene intake, turn off the tv and make your bedroom a peaceful place.0
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Yup, routine is the key.
Set the alarm on your phone for the same time every day.
Not for waking up... but for going to bed.
Alarm for waking up You can also set an alarm for your nighttime routine. Different things will work for different people, but genera advice for actual insomnia would be to wait to go to bed until you are sleepy.0 -
Try Magnesium Citrate powder (its called "calm") It sounds like a scary weird supplement but its literally just magnesium, a mineral we all need. Look at the amazon reviews it has helped a lot of people with sleep, anxiety, headaches, leg cramps, etc. It could simply be a magnesium deficiency.0
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Thanks for all of your input and ideas! I don't have a TV in my room and don't get to bed until I go to sleep.. I took some Benadryl and hoping it kicks in, in a bit. I'm going to look into changing the lighting on my laptop. I'll also look into magnesium.
Goodnight ya'll & sweet dreams! Hope tonight will be smooth sailing.
P.S. I also changed my sheets and washed my comforter today. Fresh sheets is always a plus.0 -
I have suffered with sleeping problems for the past 17 years, with it getting progressively worse over the last 3 or 4 years to the point where I was barely getting 2 or 3 hours sleep a night. I tried absolutely everything suggested in this thread, and more, and nothing worked for me.
After gaining some extra weight on holiday I cut back on eating sugary foods (cake, sweets, chocolate, biscuits, etc) to lose the pounds, and after a week or so I started to sleep much better. I didn't really take much notice, because in the past I would have the odd week of really good sleep and then end up back to 2 or 3 hours a night the next week. But after a few weeks of consistantly sleeping well I began to wonder if it was the reduction in my sugar intake that had helped. I've now been sleeping like a 'normal' person (with the exception of a couple of bad nights due to drinking too much caffeine!) for 14 weeks, and literally the only thing that I have changed is the sugar intake. Whether its just coincidence I honestly have no idea, but I just thought I'd mention it incase it helps! Good luck!0 -
Melatonin & ZMA0
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My sleep issues involve me waking every few hours. I've tried various things - doesn't help that I work 7P-7A three nights a week - and have had some luck with lemon balm aka Melissa. I take it in capsule form, it's also able to be a tea, which I don't drink. It's helpful for stress and anxiety so I take it at bedtime. I also sometimes take it before work, it doesn't make you sleepy so you can function.
There's also Somnapure, a combo of several sleep aids rolled into one. That works well too0
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