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I pretty much knew you would not open your diary. If what you wrote is your calories for the day, you are in great denial regarding nutrition and proper fueling of your body.
Feelings are not right or wrong, but they aren't facts either. Just because you feel properly fueled doesn't mean you are There is no way in heck a person can meet all their macro and micro nutrients on 800 calories a day. However, if your diary is not open, please do open it up and prove us wrong.
You feel betrayed because MFP does not support VLCDs? Interesting.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
Getting enough calories to properly fuel your body is common sense. 800 calories is not proper fueling.
The best of luck to you.
Then explain how I feel properly fueled. How I continuously feel better than I ever have.
Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
No, none of our feelings about our body are facts when it comes to food. Most of us got fat by listening to our body tell us we need more food, all the while thinking we were eating just the right amount. Just because you feel you are getting proper nutrition on 800 calories a day does not make it factual.
You also said you are not trying to lose more weight, but that's not what your ticker indicates. It says you have 20 pounds to go.
You sound very protective of that 800 calories you eat each day, and you are quite defensive, and you certainly don't eat enough. This sounds like eating disordered behavior to me. Please seek help.
Take care.
My ticker says 10 pounds, actually. Perhaps I should point out I've never been overweight in my life. Nor have I been underweight. Nor do I intend to be. My last 10 pounds are what I would like to tone up, ad I've already said. Also, heck yeah I am defensive. There are multiple people harassing me about my feelings. Screw that. And screw your views, if you think I have a disorder for naturally eating between 800-1,200 calories a day.That's nothing but ignorance plain and simple. You've asked for answers and I've given them. You still deny me. Ignorant, just ignorant.0 -
Personally I don't think MFP's warning is going to stop ED people from eating VLCDs0
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So if you think what you are doing is fine then go do it. You're your own person. But remember, you are the one who turned this thread into something about you.
Feelings are not right or wrong, but they aren't facts either. Just because you feel properly fueled doesn't mean you are There is no way in heck a person can meet all their macro and micro nutrients on 800 calories a day. However, if your diary is not open, please do open it up and prove us wrong.
You feel betrayed because MFP does not support VLCDs? Interesting.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
Getting enough calories to properly fuel your body is common sense. 800 calories is not proper fueling.
The best of luck to you.
Then explain how I feel properly fueled. How I continuously feel better than I ever have.
Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
Have fun depriving yourself on 800 calories a day.
I already am doing it. Also I did not turn this thread into anything. I posted my honest opinion and views, and others decided it's the perfect night to throw a hissy fit over matters that don't concern them.
Also just so you are aware:
254g carbs = 1,106 calories
36g fat = 324 calories
That's 1,430 calories. Without even adding in protein. So I'm not sure how you even math to come up with 1,290 calories.
And believing you are getting proper nutrition with almost no protein in your diet clearly shows you don't understand proper nutrition.
1,290 is my NET. I didn't include exercise. Also I never said I eat 800 STRICTLY a day. I said I USUALLY eat 800-1,200.
Believing I never get enough protein shows that you are oblivious to what I'm saying. I don't eat the same things everyday, I don't get the same nutrition everyday. Who the heck does?0 -
You are right, it says 10 pounds. My bad.
I pretty much knew you would not open your diary. If what you wrote is your calories for the day, you are in great denial regarding nutrition and proper fueling of your body.
Feelings are not right or wrong, but they aren't facts either. Just because you feel properly fueled doesn't mean you are There is no way in heck a person can meet all their macro and micro nutrients on 800 calories a day. However, if your diary is not open, please do open it up and prove us wrong.
You feel betrayed because MFP does not support VLCDs? Interesting.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
Getting enough calories to properly fuel your body is common sense. 800 calories is not proper fueling.
The best of luck to you.
Then explain how I feel properly fueled. How I continuously feel better than I ever have.
Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
No, none of our feelings about our body are facts when it comes to food. Most of us got fat by listening to our body tell us we need more food, all the while thinking we were eating just the right amount. Just because you feel you are getting proper nutrition on 800 calories a day does not make it factual.
You also said you are not trying to lose more weight, but that's not what your ticker indicates. It says you have 20 pounds to go.
You sound very protective of that 800 calories you eat each day, and you are quite defensive, and you certainly don't eat enough. This sounds like eating disordered behavior to me. Please seek help.
Take care.
My ticker says 10 pounds, actually. Perhaps I should point out I've never been overweight in my life. Nor have I been underweight. Nor do I intend to be. My last 10 pounds are what I would like to tone up, ad I've already said. Also, heck yeah I am defensive. There are multiple people harassing me about my feelings. Screw that. And screw your views, if you think I have a disorder for naturally eating between 800-1,200 calories a day.That's nothing but ignorance plain and simple. You've asked for answers and I've given them. You still deny me. Ignorant, just ignorant.
You're not overweight, underweight, but you're losing 10 pounds to tone up? Do you mean gain some muscle? Get firm and fit? 800 calories is not going to do it.
No, the wording in your posts clearly indicate disordered thinking around food and nutrition You are inconsistent. Nobody is harassing you, we are simply calling you on the fact that you are in deep denial about nutrition and this fantasy of 800 calories being enough food.
I deny you what? So, many of us who have been down the same road as you and are being truthful with you are ignorant?
Yeah. So not true.
You indeed did make this thread about you by saying you feel betrayed by MFP.
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See, your story keeps changing.
So if you think what you are doing is fine then go do it. You're your own person. But remember, you are the one who turned this thread into something about you.
Feelings are not right or wrong, but they aren't facts either. Just because you feel properly fueled doesn't mean you are There is no way in heck a person can meet all their macro and micro nutrients on 800 calories a day. However, if your diary is not open, please do open it up and prove us wrong.
You feel betrayed because MFP does not support VLCDs? Interesting.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
Getting enough calories to properly fuel your body is common sense. 800 calories is not proper fueling.
The best of luck to you.
Then explain how I feel properly fueled. How I continuously feel better than I ever have.
Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
Have fun depriving yourself on 800 calories a day.
I already am doing it. Also I did not turn this thread into anything. I posted my honest opinion and views, and others decided it's the perfect night to throw a hissy fit over matters that don't concern them.
Also just so you are aware:
254g carbs = 1,106 calories
36g fat = 324 calories
That's 1,430 calories. Without even adding in protein. So I'm not sure how you even math to come up with 1,290 calories.
And believing you are getting proper nutrition with almost no protein in your diet clearly shows you don't understand proper nutrition.
1,290 is my NET. I didn't include exercise. Also I never said I eat 800 STRICTLY a day. I said I USUALLY eat 800-1,200.
Believing I never get enough protein shows that you are oblivious to what I'm saying. I don't eat the same things everyday, I don't get the same nutrition everyday. Who the heck does?0 -
So if that's true, how did you get into the position to need to lose weight?
My way of thinking is most certainly not distorted in any way. Yours, however, is very ignorant. That is honestly an egregiously rude and disrespectful thing to assume. The word 'disorder' is *not* a word to throw around-- especially towards people whom you do not meet eye-to eye with. That's only, like I said, ignorance.
Disordered thinking is disarray and compulsive. I've already been gone from this site for a long while, and don't you worry I made my way through the door just fine. I left because I was done counting calories, I was blissfully happy and didn't care how much I got. That's when I truly learned how to eat properly. You can't target everyone in the same calorie range. Some people have the appetite for 3,500 plus calories a day, others for 1,200 and below. Why is there only a stigma with the later? As I already said, I am not depriving or starving myself. I get more than enough nutrients a day. Speaking of which, if you wonder, that is why I came back, I wanted to make sure I was, just in case. I know I don't eat the recommended amount every day. I've tried eating more, and it's not that I wouldn't want to. It's that I don't care to-- not because I'm afraid or compulsive, but because I am satisfied. I eat hearty bowls of oats, berry-filled parfaits. I eat up to an entire bundle of bananas a day. The only thing stopping me from eating more is my stomach telling me it is full and satisfied. Today I ate 1,290. Tomorrow I might eat 800, and the next 1,150. Who knows? I don't. I'll eat when my body tells me to, and I'll stop when I'm full.
Normal people don't count calories. They do what I'm describing. They just live. They eat when they eat, they don't when they don't. They also don't go out of their way to eat as little as possible or as much as possible. Neither do I. I just am. I just do what I feel my body desires. And my body respects me back.
Hello
Respectfully, when you say "normal people don't count calories, they do what I am doing and just live". Does this mean that you do not count calories? If you do not count calories, then how do you know that you are consistently below 800-1200. The reason I ask is that, you say you eat an entire bundle of bananas a day, if your bundle has 5 - 8 Banana's that already close to 700 calories.
Counting calories does not lead to starvation, neither does "Not counting" calories. Every system is open to abuse, it all depends on how each individual chooses to use it. There is no right or wrong, normal or abnormal, good or bad.
I understand and respect that you are not happy if MFP does not want to estimate progression if you are below the recommended. I am not exactly sure why you would need to publicise your departure as a result. Please understand, this is not an "in your face" comment. I am generally baffled when people write "I am leaving" rather than just leave without saying anything.
That said. Yes it's entirely possible to be full on less than 600 calories a day. I had spinach, strawberry, light dressing, and blueberries for lunch. It was a huge bowl and came in at 130 Calories. 50 for spinach, 25 for strawberry, 25 for blueberry, 30 for Bolthouse Raspberry Merlot dressing. I was very full and could have variations of this all day and would not get to 800 at the end of the day. But its not sustainable for life for me. I don't think 800 everyday for years is sufficient to provide all the required nutrients we need.
Personally I cannot keep to 800 consistently. I like my meat, sweets and carbs too much...So counting is good for me or at the minimum having an idea of the calories in the food I am eating.....True story...I always had this Whole Wheat spelt cake, organic, very healthy...I would have 2 slice everyday, in the euphoria that I was eating healthy...One day I calculated the calories in the cake...just for fun.....wait for it....1200/slice...I had been stuffing my face with 2400 per day and this did not include the lunch or dinner. I have not had a slice since that day.....So counting works for some...definitely for me
Full disclosure ... I had burgers, chocolate cake, ice cream planned for dinner...hence my need to limit lunch calorie. Good luck in whatever you decide
I never said I was leaving. I said I may, but maybe not.
Also I've said I am here to count nutrition. All these people are hounding me for eating 800 calories a day. Never have I said I eat 800 calories every single day. Jokes on them. I said I eat BETWEEN 800 and 1,200. That is how much I naturally eat, I don't try to be in that range.
But thank you for seeing my view on how low calories can be very filling. I come on here mostly to see how well I am faring in other nutritional departments. I am well.
Cheers
I've never needed to lose weight. I'm 5'9, my highest weight was 150. That's not a whole lot for 5'9. Just a bit flabby. I'm 130 now, and toning up. I don't want to get to 120. I don't care if I get back to 140. I've learned to be happy with my body, no matter what. But that doesn't mean I'm going to continue to be a couch potato (hence flabby.)0 -
Personally I don't think MFP's warning is going to stop ED people from eating VLCDs
You're right, but what it CAN do is help someone without an ED from under-eating for a "quick fix" or something.
I've been wrist slapped a few times a long time ago but I KNEW I was low. I didn't get the new message even though my net when I clicked the button for my experiment was way, way low (calories in was high enough but exercise on top of it put my net at around 900 cals before my evening snack -- back up with around 1350 net, 1700 eaten which is my TDEE-20% number anyway) so I assume this for those who's caloric intake is below 1000. I dunno how low it'd have to be NET for it to kick off if you've actually eaten enough based on the MFP guidelines, though.0 -
So if you think what you are doing is fine then go do it. You're your own person. But remember, you are the one who turned this thread into something about you.
Feelings are not right or wrong, but they aren't facts either. Just because you feel properly fueled doesn't mean you are There is no way in heck a person can meet all their macro and micro nutrients on 800 calories a day. However, if your diary is not open, please do open it up and prove us wrong.
You feel betrayed because MFP does not support VLCDs? Interesting.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
Getting enough calories to properly fuel your body is common sense. 800 calories is not proper fueling.
The best of luck to you.
Then explain how I feel properly fueled. How I continuously feel better than I ever have.
Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
Have fun depriving yourself on 800 calories a day.
I already am doing it. Also I did not turn this thread into anything. I posted my honest opinion and views, and others decided it's the perfect night to throw a hissy fit over matters that don't concern them.
Also just so you are aware:
254g carbs = 1,106 calories
36g fat = 324 calories
That's 1,430 calories. Without even adding in protein. So I'm not sure how you even math to come up with 1,290 calories.
And believing you are getting proper nutrition with almost no protein in your diet clearly shows you don't understand proper nutrition.
1,290 is my NET. I didn't include exercise. Also I never said I eat 800 STRICTLY a day. I said I USUALLY eat 800-1,200.
Believing I never get enough protein shows that you are oblivious to what I'm saying. I don't eat the same things everyday, I don't get the same nutrition everyday. Who the heck does?Today I ate 1,290 calories
Keyword: Usually0 -
I mean I def think it's good to have the warning there, because I'm sure theres some people who might not even realized that they ate under and it wasn't a good idea. I just don't think it'll stop the real defensive people.0
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You are right, it says 10 pounds. My bad.
I pretty much knew you would not open your diary. If what you wrote is your calories for the day, you are in great denial regarding nutrition and proper fueling of your body.
Feelings are not right or wrong, but they aren't facts either. Just because you feel properly fueled doesn't mean you are There is no way in heck a person can meet all their macro and micro nutrients on 800 calories a day. However, if your diary is not open, please do open it up and prove us wrong.
You feel betrayed because MFP does not support VLCDs? Interesting.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
Getting enough calories to properly fuel your body is common sense. 800 calories is not proper fueling.
The best of luck to you.
Then explain how I feel properly fueled. How I continuously feel better than I ever have.
Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
No, none of our feelings about our body are facts when it comes to food. Most of us got fat by listening to our body tell us we need more food, all the while thinking we were eating just the right amount. Just because you feel you are getting proper nutrition on 800 calories a day does not make it factual.
You also said you are not trying to lose more weight, but that's not what your ticker indicates. It says you have 20 pounds to go.
You sound very protective of that 800 calories you eat each day, and you are quite defensive, and you certainly don't eat enough. This sounds like eating disordered behavior to me. Please seek help.
Take care.
My ticker says 10 pounds, actually. Perhaps I should point out I've never been overweight in my life. Nor have I been underweight. Nor do I intend to be. My last 10 pounds are what I would like to tone up, ad I've already said. Also, heck yeah I am defensive. There are multiple people harassing me about my feelings. Screw that. And screw your views, if you think I have a disorder for naturally eating between 800-1,200 calories a day.That's nothing but ignorance plain and simple. You've asked for answers and I've given them. You still deny me. Ignorant, just ignorant.
You're not overweight, underweight, but you're losing 10 pounds to tone up? Do you mean gain some muscle? Get firm and fit? 800 calories is not going to do it.
No, the wording in your posts clearly indicate disordered thinking around food and nutrition You are inconsistent. Nobody is harassing you, we are simply calling you on the fact that you are in deep denial about nutrition and this fantasy of 800 calories being enough food.
I deny you what? So, many of us who have been down the same road as you and are being truthful with you are ignorant?
Yeah. So not true.
You indeed did make this thread about you by saying you feel betrayed by MFP.
My story doesn't keep changing. It's the fact that you are so quick to judge, and never had the full story to begin with. I'm only giving you a little more information through every post. Facts. My story does not keep changing. My story has always been the same, you've just lacked it's entirety. Also, why do you keep implying I only get 800 calories a day? I never once said that. See, there you go, judging. That is also ignorance. And I'd wouldn't call this calling me out. I have nothing to prove. You're calling me wrong for having an opinion different from yours. For being happy with who I am.
Also, I am gaining muscle. I can visibly see myself toning up. Not that you have to believe me. Your thoughts don't affect me. Don't care. I know what I know, I see what I see. It's a personal matter, that wont ever concern you.0 -
I mean I def think it's good to have the warning there, because I'm sure theres some people who might not even realized that they ate under and it wasn't a good idea. I just don't think it'll stop the real defensive people.
Yeah, I agree.
Wanna share my bag of cracked black pepper popcorn I popped for this thread?0 -
Keywords: Today, ate.
So if you think what you are doing is fine then go do it. You're your own person. But remember, you are the one who turned this thread into something about you.
Feelings are not right or wrong, but they aren't facts either. Just because you feel properly fueled doesn't mean you are There is no way in heck a person can meet all their macro and micro nutrients on 800 calories a day. However, if your diary is not open, please do open it up and prove us wrong.
You feel betrayed because MFP does not support VLCDs? Interesting.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
Getting enough calories to properly fuel your body is common sense. 800 calories is not proper fueling.
The best of luck to you.
Then explain how I feel properly fueled. How I continuously feel better than I ever have.
Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
Have fun depriving yourself on 800 calories a day.
I already am doing it. Also I did not turn this thread into anything. I posted my honest opinion and views, and others decided it's the perfect night to throw a hissy fit over matters that don't concern them.
Also just so you are aware:
254g carbs = 1,106 calories
36g fat = 324 calories
That's 1,430 calories. Without even adding in protein. So I'm not sure how you even math to come up with 1,290 calories.
And believing you are getting proper nutrition with almost no protein in your diet clearly shows you don't understand proper nutrition.
1,290 is my NET. I didn't include exercise. Also I never said I eat 800 STRICTLY a day. I said I USUALLY eat 800-1,200.
Believing I never get enough protein shows that you are oblivious to what I'm saying. I don't eat the same things everyday, I don't get the same nutrition everyday. Who the heck does?Today I ate 1,290 calories
Keyword: UsuallyToday I ate 1,290 calories
Yes at the end of the day that was my net. I know I ate more, but my (keyword:point) is that I netted 1,290. Do you still have a point? Doesn't look like it.0 -
I mean I def think it's good to have the warning there, because I'm sure theres some people who might not even realized that they ate under and it wasn't a good idea. I just don't think it'll stop the real defensive people.
Yeah, I agree.
Wanna share my bag of cracked black pepper popcorn I popped for this thread?
Seriously. This whole thread is turning into one giant *facepalm* But yes, pass the snacks over buddy. I wouldn't want to get the under eating message 0 -
You are right, it says 10 pounds. My bad.
I pretty much knew you would not open your diary. If what you wrote is your calories for the day, you are in great denial regarding nutrition and proper fueling of your body.
Feelings are not right or wrong, but they aren't facts either. Just because you feel properly fueled doesn't mean you are There is no way in heck a person can meet all their macro and micro nutrients on 800 calories a day. However, if your diary is not open, please do open it up and prove us wrong.
You feel betrayed because MFP does not support VLCDs? Interesting.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
Getting enough calories to properly fuel your body is common sense. 800 calories is not proper fueling.
The best of luck to you.
Then explain how I feel properly fueled. How I continuously feel better than I ever have.
Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
No, none of our feelings about our body are facts when it comes to food. Most of us got fat by listening to our body tell us we need more food, all the while thinking we were eating just the right amount. Just because you feel you are getting proper nutrition on 800 calories a day does not make it factual.
You also said you are not trying to lose more weight, but that's not what your ticker indicates. It says you have 20 pounds to go.
You sound very protective of that 800 calories you eat each day, and you are quite defensive, and you certainly don't eat enough. This sounds like eating disordered behavior to me. Please seek help.
Take care.
My ticker says 10 pounds, actually. Perhaps I should point out I've never been overweight in my life. Nor have I been underweight. Nor do I intend to be. My last 10 pounds are what I would like to tone up, ad I've already said. Also, heck yeah I am defensive. There are multiple people harassing me about my feelings. Screw that. And screw your views, if you think I have a disorder for naturally eating between 800-1,200 calories a day.That's nothing but ignorance plain and simple. You've asked for answers and I've given them. You still deny me. Ignorant, just ignorant.
You're not overweight, underweight, but you're losing 10 pounds to tone up? Do you mean gain some muscle? Get firm and fit? 800 calories is not going to do it.
No, the wording in your posts clearly indicate disordered thinking around food and nutrition You are inconsistent. Nobody is harassing you, we are simply calling you on the fact that you are in deep denial about nutrition and this fantasy of 800 calories being enough food.
I deny you what? So, many of us who have been down the same road as you and are being truthful with you are ignorant?
Yeah. So not true.
You indeed did make this thread about you by saying you feel betrayed by MFP.
My story doesn't keep changing. It's the fact that you are so quick to judge, and never had the full story to begin with. I'm only giving you a little more information through every post. Facts. My story does not keep changing. My story has always been the same, you've just lacked it's entirety. Also, why do you keep implying I only get 800 calories a day? I never once said that. See, there you go, judging. That is also ignorance. And I'd wouldn't call this calling me out. I have nothing to prove. You're calling me wrong for having an opinion different from yours. For being happy with who I am.
Also, I am gaining muscle. I can visibly see myself toning up. Not that you have to believe me. Your thoughts don't affect me. Don't care. I know what I know, I see what I see. It's a personal matter, that wont ever concern you.
Your own words.WOW. I just checked that out-- it's true! I am so disappointed.. I am very healthy despite only eat 800-1200 a day, so this is going to be a huge problem for me. Actually, if that's the case, I'll probably be taking my leave from this site. I feel betrayed.
(Read: I eat a mostly raw 'diet'. I am not starving. I have energy. I eat til I'm full. Fruit/veggies are VERY filling. Once again, I am NOT being unhealthy. I am NOT in 'starvation mode'. I feel better than I ever have, I am more energetic than I've ever been. No bodies are alike. I am not depriving myself. I get more than enough nutrients. Not all bodies need 2000+ calories a day to flourish. That is an old and implemented way of thinking.)
800-1,200, yes. That is how much I usually consume in a day. Your point?0
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