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I pretty much knew you would not open your diary. If what you wrote is your calories for the day, you are in great denial regarding nutrition and proper fueling of your body.
No, none of our feelings about our body are facts when it comes to food. Most of us got fat by listening to our body tell us we need more food, all the while thinking we were eating just the right amount. Just because you feel you are getting proper nutrition on 800 calories a day does not make it factual.
You also said you are not trying to lose more weight, but that's not what your ticker indicates. It says you have 20 pounds to go.
You sound very protective of that 800 calories you eat each day, and you are quite defensive, and you certainly don't eat enough. This sounds like eating disordered behavior to me. Please seek help.
Take care.
My ticker says 10 pounds, actually. Perhaps I should point out I've never been overweight in my life. Nor have I been underweight. Nor do I intend to be. My last 10 pounds are what I would like to tone up, ad I've already said. Also, heck yeah I am defensive. There are multiple people harassing me about my feelings. Screw that. And screw your views, if you think I have a disorder for naturally eating between 800-1,200 calories a day.That's nothing but ignorance plain and simple. You've asked for answers and I've given them. You still deny me. Ignorant, just ignorant.0 -
Personally I don't think MFP's warning is going to stop ED people from eating VLCDs0
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Also just so you are aware:
254g carbs = 1,106 calories
36g fat = 324 calories
That's 1,430 calories. Without even adding in protein. So I'm not sure how you even math to come up with 1,290 calories.
And believing you are getting proper nutrition with almost no protein in your diet clearly shows you don't understand proper nutrition.
1,290 is my NET. I didn't include exercise. Also I never said I eat 800 STRICTLY a day. I said I USUALLY eat 800-1,200.
Believing I never get enough protein shows that you are oblivious to what I'm saying. I don't eat the same things everyday, I don't get the same nutrition everyday. Who the heck does?0 -
My ticker says 10 pounds, actually. Perhaps I should point out I've never been overweight in my life. Nor have I been underweight. Nor do I intend to be. My last 10 pounds are what I would like to tone up, ad I've already said. Also, heck yeah I am defensive. There are multiple people harassing me about my feelings. Screw that. And screw your views, if you think I have a disorder for naturally eating between 800-1,200 calories a day.That's nothing but ignorance plain and simple. You've asked for answers and I've given them. You still deny me. Ignorant, just ignorant.
You're not overweight, underweight, but you're losing 10 pounds to tone up? Do you mean gain some muscle? Get firm and fit? 800 calories is not going to do it.
No, the wording in your posts clearly indicate disordered thinking around food and nutrition You are inconsistent. Nobody is harassing you, we are simply calling you on the fact that you are in deep denial about nutrition and this fantasy of 800 calories being enough food.
I deny you what? So, many of us who have been down the same road as you and are being truthful with you are ignorant?
Yeah. So not true.
You indeed did make this thread about you by saying you feel betrayed by MFP.0 -
1,290 is my NET. I didn't include exercise. Also I never said I eat 800 STRICTLY a day. I said I USUALLY eat 800-1,200.
Believing I never get enough protein shows that you are oblivious to what I'm saying. I don't eat the same things everyday, I don't get the same nutrition everyday. Who the heck does?0 -
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So if that's true, how did you get into the position to need to lose weight?
I've never needed to lose weight. I'm 5'9, my highest weight was 150. That's not a whole lot for 5'9. Just a bit flabby. I'm 130 now, and toning up. I don't want to get to 120. I don't care if I get back to 140. I've learned to be happy with my body, no matter what. But that doesn't mean I'm going to continue to be a couch potato (hence flabby.)0 -
Personally I don't think MFP's warning is going to stop ED people from eating VLCDs
You're right, but what it CAN do is help someone without an ED from under-eating for a "quick fix" or something.
I've been wrist slapped a few times a long time ago but I KNEW I was low. I didn't get the new message even though my net when I clicked the button for my experiment was way, way low (calories in was high enough but exercise on top of it put my net at around 900 cals before my evening snack -- back up with around 1350 net, 1700 eaten which is my TDEE-20% number anyway) so I assume this for those who's caloric intake is below 1000. I dunno how low it'd have to be NET for it to kick off if you've actually eaten enough based on the MFP guidelines, though.0 -
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I mean I def think it's good to have the warning there, because I'm sure theres some people who might not even realized that they ate under and it wasn't a good idea. I just don't think it'll stop the real defensive people.0
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You are right, it says 10 pounds. My bad.
You're not overweight, underweight, but you're losing 10 pounds to tone up? Do you mean gain some muscle? Get firm and fit? 800 calories is not going to do it.
No, the wording in your posts clearly indicate disordered thinking around food and nutrition You are inconsistent. Nobody is harassing you, we are simply calling you on the fact that you are in deep denial about nutrition and this fantasy of 800 calories being enough food.
I deny you what? So, many of us who have been down the same road as you and are being truthful with you are ignorant?
Yeah. So not true.
You indeed did make this thread about you by saying you feel betrayed by MFP.
My story doesn't keep changing. It's the fact that you are so quick to judge, and never had the full story to begin with. I'm only giving you a little more information through every post. Facts. My story does not keep changing. My story has always been the same, you've just lacked it's entirety. Also, why do you keep implying I only get 800 calories a day? I never once said that. See, there you go, judging. That is also ignorance. And I'd wouldn't call this calling me out. I have nothing to prove. You're calling me wrong for having an opinion different from yours. For being happy with who I am.
Also, I am gaining muscle. I can visibly see myself toning up. Not that you have to believe me. Your thoughts don't affect me. Don't care. I know what I know, I see what I see. It's a personal matter, that wont ever concern you.0 -
I mean I def think it's good to have the warning there, because I'm sure theres some people who might not even realized that they ate under and it wasn't a good idea. I just don't think it'll stop the real defensive people.
Yeah, I agree.
Wanna share my bag of cracked black pepper popcorn I popped for this thread?0 -
Yes at the end of the day that was my net. I know I ate more, but my (keyword:point) is that I netted 1,290. Do you still have a point? Doesn't look like it.0 -
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Yeah, I agree.
Wanna share my bag of cracked black pepper popcorn I popped for this thread?
Seriously. This whole thread is turning into one giant *facepalm* But yes, pass the snacks over buddy. I wouldn't want to get the under eating message0 -
800-1,200, yes. That is how much I usually consume in a day. Your point?0 -
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Because.... I never once said that? I said I get 800-1,200 calories, then later clarified that as *usually*. That's all there is to it. I never said only 800. Never once.0 -
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*snicker* So true.0 -
In, to find out how I can gain muscle on 800-1200 calories a day, since I currently need to eat triple that amount in order to gain any muscle.0
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Feelings are facts when it comes to your own body. How silly does this sound "Your feelings are wrong!" Pretty darn silly I'd day. Gee, should I apologize for felling full after my lunch? Because I'm wrong if three bananas makes me feel full? I think that sound wrong. I know it sounds wrong.
Today I ate 1,290 calories. I consumed 254 carbs, 36 grams of fat, 31 grams of fiber. Protein was lacking a bit today but that's expected with a mostly raw diet. Everyday I circle my 3 meals around a grain and protein. I eat on average two snacks, usually fruit.
Example log:
Breakfast: Creamy rice w/ 2tbsp chia seeds and 1 tbsp butter
Snack: Banana
Lunch 1/2 cup greek yogurt w/ 1/2 cup frozen blueberries, 2 tbsp chia seeds, a sprinkle of granola
Snack: Apple
Supper: 1 cup Rice w/ chickpeas, celery, tomatoes, onions (I'm not even sure how to log that. )
898 calories (minus the rice additives) but hey I got the nutrients I need and I am full. So don't tell me I'm not healthy. Nobody is a 100% health superstar. My point is that I feel extremely fulfilled on my diet-- and I'm not even dieting! Some days I don't get many iron, others I get an overabundance. It's all about balance.
I'm not going to open my diary. I've been gone for a long time, it wouldn't make sense.
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I read the entire last 2 pages of this thread
I'm also super lol @ someone claiming to be gaining muscle on 800 (i'm sorry, 1200!) calories a day when a) this is not enough for anyone to gain weight on and b) eating like 10g of protein a day (just guessing based on the sample menu provided).
In all seriousness though, to Yume, since you're an angry student apparently:
http://www.something-fishy.org/isf/signssymptoms.php
http://www.helpguide.org/mental/eating_disorder_treatment.htm0 -
Eat.0
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I rarely click the complete entry button since in the past I really havent found it to be accurate or useful. I take things as more of a one day at a time approach.0
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