Results from weight training

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  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    Hey guys sorry for butting in but I wanted to ask the question here as the responses were very good and well informed.

    First of id like to say congrats to jrline for getting down to your BMI and staying there. My problem is similar in that I want to do it by using a weight training routine, I am 6"4, 24 and weigh 200 pounds. For the last 4-5 weeks I have been going to the gym and lifting weights 4 times a week and have not budged 1 pound on the scales and have not lost any inches as my tight trousers are still tight :(.

    I started this as I had read a few things about how weight lifting keeps the metabolism burning much longer than running etc and is just as good for losing fat. Am I doing something wrong ? At first I thought It could be because I was not eating enough calories could this be the case ? for the majority of the 5 weeks had been coming in at about 1600-1800 calories per day and sometimes lower, but since the beginning of this week I have started getting as close to MFP recommended calories of 2100 that I can, maybe you could look at todays and yesterday diary and see if it is a good diet for fat loss ?

    Thanks
  • jquijas
    jquijas Posts: 222 Member
    Hey guys sorry for butting in but I wanted to ask the question here as the responses were very good and well informed.

    First of id like to say congrats to jrline for getting down to your BMI and staying there. My problem is similar in that I want to do it by using a weight training routine, I am 6"4, 24 and weigh 200 pounds. For the last 4-5 weeks I have been going to the gym and lifting weights 4 times a week and have not budged 1 pound on the scales and have not lost any inches as my tight trousers are still tight :(.

    I started this as I had read a few things about how weight lifting keeps the metabolism burning much longer than running etc and is just as good for losing fat. Am I doing something wrong ? At first I thought It could be because I was not eating enough calories could this be the case ? for the majority of the 5 weeks had been coming in at about 1600-1800 calories per day and sometimes lower, but since the beginning of this week I have started getting as close to MFP recommended calories of 2100 that I can, maybe you could look at todays and yesterday diary and see if it is a good diet for fat loss ?

    Thanks

    Not trying to be mean, but I have a feeling you are going to get told to read through the thread again. You are going to get told your TDEE, you are going to get told to start a good beginner program, and you are going to get told to eat at a deficit of your TDEE. All these things were covered at the beginning. Good luck!
  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    Hey guys sorry for butting in but I wanted to ask the question here as the responses were very good and well informed.

    First of id like to say congrats to jrline for getting down to your BMI and staying there. My problem is similar in that I want to do it by using a weight training routine, I am 6"4, 24 and weigh 200 pounds. For the last 4-5 weeks I have been going to the gym and lifting weights 4 times a week and have not budged 1 pound on the scales and have not lost any inches as my tight trousers are still tight :(.

    I started this as I had read a few things about how weight lifting keeps the metabolism burning much longer than running etc and is just as good for losing fat. Am I doing something wrong ? At first I thought It could be because I was not eating enough calories could this be the case ? for the majority of the 5 weeks had been coming in at about 1600-1800 calories per day and sometimes lower, but since the beginning of this week I have started getting as close to MFP recommended calories of 2100 that I can, maybe you could look at todays and yesterday diary and see if it is a good diet for fat loss ?

    Thanks

    Not trying to be mean, but I have a feeling you are going to get told to read through the thread again. You are going to get told your TDEE, you are going to get told to start a good beginner program, and you are going to get told to eat at a deficit of your TDEE. All these things were covered at the beginning. Good luck!

    Yeah that's a fair point but I am doing all these things and then some. I know my TDEE eating less than that -10% and im not on a beginners programme. With all of this information I was hoping I could get some advice on why my weight/size isn't going down ?
  • jquijas
    jquijas Posts: 222 Member
    Well then the next two questions you are going to get....Are you weighing what you eat? Most people that don't lose it is a result of not properly logging food. Next question will be...You say you are not on a beginners program, what program are you on? Also are you eating back exercise calories or just sticking to the -10%. Also are you accurately tracking your gym results? I.E. is the weight going up or down, are you doing enough?
  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    Yes too the majority of them although, no I don't eat back the calories used up in exercise what I eat each day tends to be fairly very similar each day regardless of whether I lifted that day or haven't at all. But yes weigh'd all food and track progress at the gym, feel stronger and lift more weight since started but not going down pound wise.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    MityMike is most def beefcake.

    But back to the original question Oh.. wait.. i seem to have forgotten. All i can see is the beefcake.. sighs

    :laugh: :laugh:
    Thanks
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Hey guys sorry for butting in but I wanted to ask the question here as the responses were very good and well informed.

    First of id like to say congrats to jrline for getting down to your BMI and staying there. My problem is similar in that I want to do it by using a weight training routine, I am 6"4, 24 and weigh 200 pounds. For the last 4-5 weeks I have been going to the gym and lifting weights 4 times a week and have not budged 1 pound on the scales and have not lost any inches as my tight trousers are still tight :(.

    I started this as I had read a few things about how weight lifting keeps the metabolism burning much longer than running etc and is just as good for losing fat. Am I doing something wrong ? At first I thought It could be because I was not eating enough calories could this be the case ? for the majority of the 5 weeks had been coming in at about 1600-1800 calories per day and sometimes lower, but since the beginning of this week I have started getting as close to MFP recommended calories of 2100 that I can, maybe you could look at todays and yesterday diary and see if it is a good diet for fat loss ?

    Thanks

    I would ask this then
    Are you weighing, logging, measuring all food u put in your mouth?
    using a scale?

    If you are then you are at maintenance most likely....

    How much time have you given it?
  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    Hey guys sorry for butting in but I wanted to ask the question here as the responses were very good and well informed.

    First of id like to say congrats to jrline for getting down to your BMI and staying there. My problem is similar in that I want to do it by using a weight training routine, I am 6"4, 24 and weigh 200 pounds. For the last 4-5 weeks I have been going to the gym and lifting weights 4 times a week and have not budged 1 pound on the scales and have not lost any inches as my tight trousers are still tight :(.

    I started this as I had read a few things about how weight lifting keeps the metabolism burning much longer than running etc and is just as good for losing fat. Am I doing something wrong ? At first I thought It could be because I was not eating enough calories could this be the case ? for the majority of the 5 weeks had been coming in at about 1600-1800 calories per day and sometimes lower, but since the beginning of this week I have started getting as close to MFP recommended calories of 2100 that I can, maybe you could look at todays and yesterday diary and see if it is a good diet for fat loss ?

    Thanks

    I would ask this then
    Are you weighing, logging, measuring all food u put in your mouth?
    using a scale?

    If you are then you are at maintenance most likely....

    How much time have you given it?

    Yeah I am weighing it all :( which is why it is frustrating. But TBFi haven't given it ages...5 weeks just a bit discouraged as thought this would have been plenty of time to at least see a bit of difference.

    What is maintenance please ? Like i can guess what it means but is there something technical about it or what should I do to get out of it
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    Yeah I am weighing it all :( which is why it is frustrating. But TBFi haven't given it ages...5 weeks just a bit discouraged as thought this would have been plenty of time to at least see a bit of difference.

    What is maintenance please ? Like i can guess what it means but is there something technical about it or what should I do to get out of it

    So you have not lost 1 pound in 5 weeks?
    And all your food measuring/weighing/logging is accurate?
    You don't skip things?
    Do you have a "Cheat day" or "Cheat meal"?

    Maintenance would be the calories you eat to stay where you are...neither gain nor lose weight.
  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    Havent lost 1 pound no, that being said I suppose my weighing could be better I had just been going on what pack says for weight etc and things like that however from the beginning of this week have started weighing things myself however didn't think this would cause a big difference ?

    I had not a cheat day as such but weekend just gone ate worse than I normally would and when weighed myself in the evening had put on weight (probably water) as when weighed myself in the morning straight back down to where I have been.

    Hmmm yeah I suppose this could be the case, however this is worrying as for the weeks past I have been eating around 1000 cals less than my TDDE and about 4-500 less than what MFP has said and so if getting out of the maintenance means I need to cut more im soon going to be eating at the 1000 calorie mark a day which I know I shouldn't do and will not be healthy.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    I looked over your diary.

    Can or do you cook any of your food?
    Or is it all prepackaged/precooked?
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Havent lost 1 pound no, that being said I suppose my weighing could be better I had just been going on what pack says for weight etc and things like that however from the beginning of this week have started weighing things myself however didn't think this would cause a big difference ?

    I had not a cheat day as such but weekend just gone ate worse than I normally would and when weighed myself in the evening had put on weight (probably water) as when weighed myself in the morning straight back down to where I have been.

    Hmmm yeah I suppose this could be the case, however this is worrying as for the weeks past I have been eating around 1000 cals less than my TDDE and about 4-500 less than what MFP has said and so if getting out of the maintenance means I need to cut more im soon going to be eating at the 1000 calorie mark a day which I know I shouldn't do and will not be healthy.

    I will tell you right now, a weekend of binging will erase a weeks worth of deficit.....
    So if you went out and ate over your needs....then any deficit you had during the week, can be wiped out....

    So if losing weight, or whatever you are wanting, is important to you....
    Then you have to stay on point.....no easy way around it brother.
  • TriLifter
    TriLifter Posts: 1,283 Member

    Yeah I am weighing it all :( which is why it is frustrating. But TBFi haven't given it ages...5 weeks just a bit discouraged as thought this would have been plenty of time to at least see a bit of difference.

    What is maintenance please ? Like i can guess what it means but is there something technical about it or what should I do to get out of it

    So you have not lost 1 pound in 5 weeks?
    And all your food measuring/weighing/logging is accurate?
    You don't skip things?
    Do you have a "Cheat day" or "Cheat meal"?

    Maintenance would be the calories you eat to stay where you are...neither gain nor lose weight.

    Exactly.

    Also, the OP of this said he was 24, 6'4" and 200 lbs....eating 1600-1800 calories as TDEE-10%

    I'm a 5'6", 124 lb female, 32 years old and my TDEE is 2200 (Lifting 4x/week and HIIT 1x/week). I think he needs to recalculate his numbers.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    And yes.
    Weigh all foods
    Even prepackaged...don't go by what the label says
    It can be very wrong.
  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    :/ so in theory during the week I could have done the work where in a few days I would have dropped a couple of pounds but before that happened my bad weekend counteracted it and put me back to where I was ?

    Just strange as it hasn't gone up at all just always straight back to where it has always been. In terms of a 'bad' weekend as long as I stay under my calories does it matter what I eat for example if I have a particularly carby or fatty meal ?
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    I ran his numbers.
    I come up w/ 2800 TDEE
    So around 2200 for a TDEE - 20%

    So if he really is staying where he says he is, as far as calories go....the weight will come off.

    But methinks inaccurate or non consistent logging.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    :/ so in theory during the week I could have done the work where in a few days I would have dropped a couple of pounds but before that happened my bad weekend counteracted it and put me back to where I was ?

    Just strange as it hasn't gone up at all just always straight back to where it has always been. In terms of a 'bad' weekend as long as I stay under my calories does it matter what I eat for example if I have a particularly carby or fatty meal ?

    Right, so your body is working to burn off the fat/weight.....
    and once you over eat at the weekend, then you erased it.....
    So you wound up back at maintenance for the week.

    And don't look at it like "Well I was good for a week, I can be bad for two days and I will still lose weight"

    Stay on point, no slacking for 4 weeks....see what happens.
    At or below 2200 calories.
  • TriLifter
    TriLifter Posts: 1,283 Member
    I ran his numbers.
    I come up w/ 2800 TDEE
    So around 2200 for a TDEE - 20%

    So if he really is staying where he says he is, as far as calories go....the weight will come off.

    But methinks inaccurate or non consistent logging.

    Great advice here and the numbers should work as long as he is consistent.
  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    Fingers crossed....nothing more to do than keep at it I suppose and be more precise than I was before with my logging.

    Just a bit disheartening to not see a movement but I guess it will come...will eating too little cause a negative impact on weight loss or is this just a myth ?
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member

    Just strange as it hasn't gone up at all just always straight back to where it has always been. In terms of a 'bad' weekend as long as I stay under my calories does it matter what I eat for example if I have a particularly carby or fatty meal ?

    You can eat whatever you like

    Priority is at caloric deficit
    2nd priority - macros
  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    Would you 2 say the weight will come off if I consistently eat the type of food that I have recorded in my diary today ?
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Fingers crossed....nothing more to do than keep at it I suppose and be more precise than I was before with my logging.

    Just a bit disheartening to not see a movement but I guess it will come...will eating too little cause a negative impact on weight loss or is this just a myth ?

    No, too little eating will not have a negative impact on weight loss....ask any kid in Ethiopia

    It can have a negative impact on overall health.

    Don't be disheartened.... :wink:

    Stay at or below 2200 calories/ day
    hit your macros
    Don't cheat yourself, if it is important to you to do this.
    Give it 4 weeks. See where you are then

    My only other recommendation would be,
    Cook more of your food yourself....
    up veggies a bit.....
    Eat more of your calories, don't drink them
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Would you 2 say the weight will come off if I consistently eat the type of food that I have recorded in my diary today ?

    What I will say is being accurate with what you log and staying in deficit will allow you to lose weight.

    see my other post regarding food
  • jjhall1990
    jjhall1990 Posts: 29 Member
    Fingers crossed....nothing more to do than keep at it I suppose and be more precise than I was before with my logging.

    Just a bit disheartening to not see a movement but I guess it will come...will eating too little cause a negative impact on weight loss or is this just a myth ?

    No, too little eating will not have a negative impact on weight loss....ask any kid in Ethiopia

    It can have a negative impact on overall health.

    Don't be disheartened.... :wink:

    Stay at or below 2200 calories/ day
    hit your macros
    Don't cheat yourself, if it is important to you to do this.
    Give it 4 weeks. See where you are then

    My only other recommendation would be,
    Cook more of your food yourself....
    up veggies a bit.....
    Eat more of your calories, don't drink them

    Alright fantastic :)....at least now I have goals to get too and the know how of how I will get too them.

    Will take everything you've said onboard and will consistently try to eat around 2100 calories a day and log everything even if I don't think its important.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Fingers crossed....nothing more to do than keep at it I suppose and be more precise than I was before with my logging.

    Just a bit disheartening to not see a movement but I guess it will come...will eating too little cause a negative impact on weight loss or is this just a myth ?

    No, too little eating will not have a negative impact on weight loss....ask any kid in Ethiopia

    It can have a negative impact on overall health.

    Don't be disheartened.... :wink:

    Stay at or below 2200 calories/ day
    hit your macros
    Don't cheat yourself, if it is important to you to do this.
    Give it 4 weeks. See where you are then

    My only other recommendation would be,
    Cook more of your food yourself....
    up veggies a bit.....
    Eat more of your calories, don't drink them

    Alright fantastic :)....at least now I have goals to get too and the know how of how I will get too them.

    Will take everything you've said onboard and will consistently try to eat around 2100 calories a day and log everything even if I don't think its important.

    If it goes into your mouth, and then to your stomach.
    LOG IT!!!
    drinks, food, candy.....all of it.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    If you are gonna go for 2100 calories
    then do this for macros:

    protein == 160 gr
    fats == ~70 gr
    carbs == 207 gr
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    keep up the 4 day lifting program..
    Progressive overload will benefit you.
    Full body routines
  • SingingSingleTracker
    SingingSingleTracker Posts: 1,866 Member
    My problem is similar in that I want to do it by using a weight training routine, I am 6"4, 24 and weigh 200 pounds. For the last 4-5 weeks I have been going to the gym and lifting weights 4 times a week and have not budged 1 pound on the scales and have not lost any inches as my tight trousers are still tight :(.

    I started this as I had read a few things about how weight lifting keeps the metabolism burning much longer than running etc and is just as good for losing fat. Am I doing something wrong ? At first I thought It could be because I was not eating enough calories could this be the case ? for the majority of the 5 weeks had been coming in at about 1600-1800 calories per day and sometimes lower, but since the beginning of this week I have started getting as close to MFP recommended calories of 2100 that I can, maybe you could look at todays and yesterday diary and see if it is a good diet for fat loss?

    I've probably pretty much got your same body - 6'4" as in tall, and slim ectomorph. Although I've got 28 years on you and have been through the gamut of life in terms of keeping in shape. At your age, your metabolism should be pretty quick compared to mine. I keep mine fired up through cycling, and weight training to focus on being lean and mean.

    Sounds like accurate calorie counting may not be going on with you in terms of why your weight is staying pegged to 200. You'll either have to "shake your system up" by increasing the amount of calorie burn each day with your current intake of food, or count your calories a lot more accurately so you are truly running a bit more of a deficit. Ideally, you would do both at once to kickstart the process. I started on January 6th at 187 with a target of losing one pound per week to reach my goal and also found in the process some areas I would get stuck as my deficit was either not there, or not enough to cut the fat. Eventually, with the help of other MFP members and reading a lot of threads, I got it figured out and reached my goal by shedding 21 pounds (mainly visceral fat).

    Don't get frustrated, just dive in more to tinker with what may be the true culprit why your weight is staying at 200.

    Here's you assignment:

    Read this blog post entitled "Why Am I Not Losing Weight: 11 Reasons You're Failing To Lose Fat". It will seriously answer all of your questions in a very blunt and realistic way.

    http://www.acaloriecounter.com/blog/why-am-i-not-losing-weight/
  • TriLifter
    TriLifter Posts: 1,283 Member
    keep up the 4 day lifting program..
    Progressive overload will benefit you.
    Full body routines

    Also remember that weight loss isn't linear. You could be stagnant for three weeks and then drop four pounds in one week.
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    keep up the 4 day lifting program..
    Progressive overload will benefit you.
    Full body routines

    Also remember that weight loss isn't linear. You could be stagnant for three weeks and then drop four pounds in one week.

    That is also a very good thing to remember as well... :wink: