Making up for "cheating"

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  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    :-/ ...

    I didn't realize eating lighter for a few days after a fun weekend is an eating disorder. Okay then.

    It's not. What you're suggesting is just fine, and the human body evolved specifically to handle such situations.
  • colors_fade
    colors_fade Posts: 464 Member

    Because it's a disordered way of thinking about food.

    Precisely.

    This is not the way to form and maintain a healthy relationship with food. You're punishing yourself now by trying to adhere to a completely unrealistic 900 calorie budget.

    The best thing to do, from a mental standpoint, is leave this in the rear view mirror. That is how you move on, and this is the best way to deal with any "setback".

    The next-best thing, if it really bothers you, is to add a bit of exercise instead. Go for a long walk today and tomorrow. Walk for an hour. Burn some extra calories that maybe you would not have.

    But for heaven's sake, don't punish yourself. Restricting yourself to an unrealistic budget like 900 calories is only going to push you further into binge eating land. And you don't want to go there.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Eat a bit less. 900 is so low you're going to get hungry and more likely to binge the days after... again. Seems to totally defeat the purpose. You're already eating at a deficit, why does it matter if it takes one week instead of 5 days to recover from a cheat day?
  • MyMalfunction7
    MyMalfunction7 Posts: 61 Member
    Huh, people really don't want to answer your question! When I'm cutting back for a few days I mostly just eat healthy sandwiches - for example, 2 slices of 35 calorie potato bread, 3 oz deli chicken, 15 grams miracle whip, maybe some mustard. Ends up at around 200 calories, and I'll have around 4 of those with a few big portions of vegetables. That way I'm still eating all day, just nice high protein, very low calorie food :)

    Edit because so many typos
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    First, I think you should just let it go and move forward, it was two days (no big deal in the scheme of things). BUT, since its bothering you not to do so, just eat a little less for couple of meals to make up for it. I can't see your diary but if you're at 1600, that's pretty easy to do. I was on 1300 for the longest time and could cut out a snack or two easily.
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    I understand what you mean, but for me I can't stand eating under 1600 for more than 2 or 3 days. I like food and when I do that for so long it starts to feel overly restrictive and I'm actually more likely to give in, versus just 2 days where it's all or nothing. I'm good at doing it and getting it over with and then returning to normal eating.
    I'm not your friend. I've been doing this since I started dieting. I've just never had a cheat this big. The only difference is that I have a smaller number to work with.

    ETA : I never binge and restrict. I restrict and continue eating normal when done. that's the difference.

    Ok, here's the problem. You say you can't handle eating at a deficit long term, and that you have a history of going over your calories after a few days of restriction and then cutting back drastically to make up for it. That is a disordered eating pattern, not to be confused with an eating disorder.

    So here's my advice - log this weekend and move on. Don't drastically restrict your calories to "make up for it." Instead, reduce your calorie deficit to something that is manageable for you, and eat that higher calorie goal every day, even if it means the weight comes off more slowly. Work your favorite foods into your calorie goal and get out of this "cheating" mentality. If you have a day when you go over, then log it and move on. Those days happen, and are going to happen when you transition to maintenance. It's only a problem when it stops being an occasional thing and becomes an all-the-time thing. You're not going to gain weight eating over your calorie goal occasionally, just like you don't lose weight because you had a salad for lunch one day.
  • I understand what you mean, but for me I can't stand eating under 1600 for more than 2 or 3 days. I like food and when I do that for so long it starts to feel overly restrictive and I'm actually more likely to give in, versus just 2 days where it's all or nothing. I'm good at doing it and getting it over with and then returning to normal eating.
    I'm not your friend. I've been doing this since I started dieting. I've just never had a cheat this big. The only difference is that I have a smaller number to work with.

    ETA : I never binge and restrict. I restrict and continue eating normal when done. that's the difference.

    Ok, here's the problem. You say you can't handle eating at a deficit long term, and that you have a history of going over your calories after a few days of restriction and then cutting back drastically to make up for it. That is a disordered eating pattern, not to be confused with an eating disorder.

    Where exactly did I say that??? I said I eat restricted for a few days AFTER overeating, and then I eat NORMALLY after restricting. :-/ By "give in" I mean I leave the surplus as is and just eat normal without ever working it off (which is what got me fat in the first place). I don't mean I give in and eat like a bazillion calories.
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    I understand what you mean, but for me I can't stand eating under 1600 for more than 2 or 3 days. I like food and when I do that for so long it starts to feel overly restrictive and I'm actually more likely to give in, versus just 2 days where it's all or nothing. I'm good at doing it and getting it over with and then returning to normal eating.
    I'm not your friend. I've been doing this since I started dieting. I've just never had a cheat this big. The only difference is that I have a smaller number to work with.

    ETA : I never binge and restrict. I restrict and continue eating normal when done. that's the difference.

    Ok, here's the problem. You say you can't handle eating at a deficit long term, and that you have a history of going over your calories after a few days of restriction and then cutting back drastically to make up for it. That is a disordered eating pattern, not to be confused with an eating disorder.

    Where exactly did I say that??? I said I eat restricted for a few days AFTER overeating, and then I eat NORMALLY after restricting. :-/ By "give in" I mean I leave the surplus as is and just eat normal without ever working it off (which is what got me fat in the first place). I don't mean I give in and eat like a bazillion calories.

    You know what, I'm not going to fight with you about this. It's not worth my time. If you read the paragraph I wrote below the one you quoted above, I provided suggestions that might help you in the future. If you want to consider the suggestions, fine, if you don't, that's fine, too. I really don't care. Have a good weekend.
  • missdibs1
    missdibs1 Posts: 1,092 Member
    Hmmm interesting. I usually go day by day. But that's me. Like today I am going way over so I upped my cardio this am .

    But if you feel ok doing this......

    I would never survive 24 hours on 900 calories. Especially post workout
  • I understand what you mean, but for me I can't stand eating under 1600 for more than 2 or 3 days. I like food and when I do that for so long it starts to feel overly restrictive and I'm actually more likely to give in, versus just 2 days where it's all or nothing. I'm good at doing it and getting it over with and then returning to normal eating.
    I'm not your friend. I've been doing this since I started dieting. I've just never had a cheat this big. The only difference is that I have a smaller number to work with.

    ETA : I never binge and restrict. I restrict and continue eating normal when done. that's the difference.

    Ok, here's the problem. You say you can't handle eating at a deficit long term, and that you have a history of going over your calories after a few days of restriction and then cutting back drastically to make up for it. That is a disordered eating pattern, not to be confused with an eating disorder.

    Where exactly did I say that??? I said I eat restricted for a few days AFTER overeating, and then I eat NORMALLY after restricting. :-/ By "give in" I mean I leave the surplus as is and just eat normal without ever working it off (which is what got me fat in the first place). I don't mean I give in and eat like a bazillion calories.

    You know what, I'm not going to fight with you about this. It's not worth my time. If you read the paragraph I wrote below the one you quoted above, I provided suggestions that might help you in the future. If you want to consider the suggestions, fine, if you don't, that's fine, too. I really don't care. Have a good weekend.

    I didn't ask for help for the future. This is what I do. I asked for a low calorie menu of food. I didn't ask for a solution to the problem, I asked for a method of applying the solution.

    And also...I don't care if you don't want to fight me. I'm not fighting you, but when you say stuff like that other people don't bother to read the rest of the post and actually assume it's true, it turns into a **** storm just because you failed to read correctly.
  • Pohudet
    Pohudet Posts: 179 Member
    I would just eat my regular breakfast and lunch and then skip dinner. For these two days.
  • Hmmm interesting. I usually go day by day. But that's me. Like today I am going way over so I upped my cardio this am .

    But if you feel ok doing this......

    I would never survive 24 hours on 900 calories. Especially post workout

    We are all different.
  • kem316
    kem316 Posts: 51 Member
    Wow...two days of light eating doesn't equal a bad relationship with food.. I do this and I get it, you want to keep your average deficit for the week the same. Though I don't think I would/could keep to 900 cals/day without being super hungry and cranky but if you can go for it. Just be smart about it and make the calories count. Usually when I do this, I will do a bulletproof coffee with protein powder for breakfast and then a huge salad with chicken breast and lots of veggies for lunch, and some kind of lean protein with veggies for dinner. Make sure you get enough protein or you will be hungry. And obviously eat something if you feel like you're starving. Sometimes getting the exact deficit you're shooting for isn't worth feeling like crap.
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
    OP asks for advice then argues with all suggestions ....except the ones he/she wants to hear :laugh:
  • OP asks for advice then argues with all suggestions ....except the ones he/she wants to hear :laugh:

    Because I asked for a low calorie menu. Not a lecture on healthy/disordered eating.
  • NoMoreBlameGame
    NoMoreBlameGame Posts: 236 Member
    :-/ ...

    I didn't realize eating lighter for a few days after a fun weekend is an eating disorder. Okay then.

    It's not an eating disorder at all...some people just love to be judgmental. If you oopsied...then you oopsied, it happens, and going light for a couple days is fine if that is what works for *you*.

    10 large Mission tortilla chips and some salsa is under 200 calories

    Spinach and parmesan cheese is very filling and very low cal....parmesan has 24 cals per TBSP (the brand I have anyway) and spinach is 7 cals per cup

    eggo nutri-grain waffles are tasty and those are 140 calories for 2 of them

    water...water and more water :)

    Oh and green tea (plain)

    chicken breast, plain...

    1/2 C. cottage cheese and some pineapple...etc

    My normal calorie intake is 800-900 a day, period...I really don't care what people say about "thou shalt not eat below 1200 calories"....my bohonkus! I eat 1200 cals and I gain weight. I eat 900 cals and I lose weight.

    What works for YOU (if you're consuming the nutrients *your* particular body needs)....is what you should do.

    No two people are alike...and placing some umbrella over *everyone* who wants to lose weight...is ridiculous. =)
  • kem316
    kem316 Posts: 51 Member
    OP asks for advice then argues with all suggestions ....except the ones he/she wants to hear :laugh:

    No, she asked for advice on what to eat. Not for people's opinions.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Ok so you want low calorie meals...

    Breakfast - egg white omelet with veggies, or plain oatmeal
    Lunch and dinner - fish or chicken breast with veggies, or egg white omelet
    Snack - plain Greek yogurt with fruit
  • NoMoreBlameGame
    NoMoreBlameGame Posts: 236 Member
    OP asks for advice then argues with all suggestions ....except the ones he/she wants to hear :laugh:

    No, she asked for advice on what to eat. Not for people's opinions.

    this ^
  • _whatsherface
    _whatsherface Posts: 1,235 Member
    Instead of scaling back on food, why don't you maybe exercise more the next 2 days? Also, nobody is perfect. You're not going to eat perfect everyday. Leave it be and continue eating your daily calories. It's a new day. You don't punish your body for the past.
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    maybe try a temporary 5:2 style fast over the next week instead of the next two days...?

    Fish is very lean. Veggies are great.
  • kem316
    kem316 Posts: 51 Member
    Instead of scaling back on food, why don't you maybe exercise more the next 2 days? Also, nobody is perfect. You're not going to eat perfect everyday. Leave it be and continue eating your daily calories. It's a new day. You don't punish your body for the past.

    But isn't exercising more "punishing your body"? It's essentially creating the deficit in a different way
  • Instead of scaling back on food, why don't you maybe exercise more the next 2 days? Also, nobody is perfect. You're not going to eat perfect everyday. Leave it be and continue eating your daily calories. It's a new day. You don't punish your body for the past.

    But isn't exercising more "punishing your body"? It's essentially creating the deficit in a different way

    And here I was thinking "A calorie deficit is for weight loss and exercise is for bodily health." or "Weight loss is 90% diet and 10% exercise" (famous last mfp words.) :huh: silly me.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Given how you say you eat, I'd drop the snacks or just have veggies instead of your usual.

    For me I'd probably switch out some starches and fruit for extra veggies. Meat plus veggies is really filling and low calorie. Wouldn't work if you are sensitive to cutting carbs or have some big workouts planned (which obviously is not advisable on such low cals), but the easiest way for me to cut cals. I don't think it's a big deal for a couple of days if you don't have a binge/restrict thing and aren't seeing it as self punishment.
  • kem316
    kem316 Posts: 51 Member
    :-/ ...

    I didn't realize eating lighter for a few days after a fun weekend is an eating disorder. Okay then.

    It's not an eating disorder at all...some people just love to be judgmental. If you oopsied...then you oopsied, it happens, and going light for a couple days is fine if that is what works for *you*.

    10 large Mission tortilla chips and some salsa is under 200 calories

    Spinach and parmesan cheese is very filling and very low cal....parmesan has 24 cals per TBSP (the brand I have anyway) and spinach is 7 cals per cup

    eggo nutri-grain waffles are tasty and those are 140 calories for 2 of them

    water...water and more water :)

    Oh and green tea (plain)

    chicken breast, plain...

    1/2 C. cottage cheese and some pineapple...etc

    My normal calorie intake is 800-900 a day, period...I really don't care what people say about "thou shalt not eat below 1200 calories"....my bohonkus! I eat 1200 cals and I gain weight. I eat 900 cals and I lose weight.

    What works for YOU (if you're consuming the nutrients *your* particular body needs)....is what you should do.

    No two people are alike...and placing some umbrella over *everyone* who wants to lose weight...is ridiculous. =)

    I'm sure you've heard it before, but since you put it out there, I have to say it...this ^ is insane. There is a big difference between eating 900 calories for a day or so and eating 900 calories everyday. This is not healthy. You are destroying your body.
  • threnjen
    threnjen Posts: 687 Member
    I find that on days where I have surprise calories left at the end, I've eaten a lot of lean protein, greek yogurt, cottage cheese, beef jerky. I've found I'm quite the obligate carnivore and any type of protein is extremely filling for me. If I eat a lot of carbs I just get hungrier faster. So a day where I am trying to go a little leaner, I will aim at protein protein protein.
  • wannakimmy
    wannakimmy Posts: 488 Member
    Just log your cheat day and move on. It is not going to affect your long term goal. You would really have had to eat a ton of calories to have an actual weight gain.
  • PlumpKitten
    PlumpKitten Posts: 112 Member
    Oh, for gosh sakes - the OP just asked for a simple 900-calorie menu. It's a totally reasonable request on a weight-loss website, for a petite woman's who's just overindulged.

    (Personally, I maintain at 1600, and lose slowly at 1200 - so 900 is not particularly extreme)

    Anyway, to answer your question - here's a 950 calorie day with about 60 grams of protein. I put it as a "sample menu" on tomorrow's food log. You can see it here:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/PlumpKitten?date=2014-09-03

    Breakfast - egg white & veggie omelet, wheat toast, coffee with skim milk
    Lunch - chicken breast & green salad
    Dinner - tofu & veggie stir-fry & rice

    It's lean, but not exactly starvation.
    If you're hungry but still want to maintain those levels, throw in a a piece of fruit / yogurt - and then go for a run.
    Good luck!
  • PlumpKitten
    PlumpKitten Posts: 112 Member
    Or, to go with my usual brunch / dinner plan when I'm trying to go lean

    Brunch - 3 egg omelet, 1 slice wheat toast, grilled tomato / mushrooms, coffee w/ skim milk
    Dinner - 1 pork chop, 1 baked potato, side veggies

    900 calories, 50 grams protein.
    (It's on the Thursday entry of my food log)
  • randomtai
    randomtai Posts: 9,003 Member
    Oh, for gosh sakes - the OP just asked for a simple 900-calorie menu. It's a totally reasonable request on a weight-loss website, for a petite woman's who's just overindulged.

    :yawn: