Anyone one the Eat to Live method?

jambo101
jambo101 Posts: 18
in Health and Weight Loss
Tripped over Dr Fuhrmans infomercial about a month ago,his spiel made a lot of sense, bought the book and am generally following the diet.
So far i'm down 15lbs and have cut my insulin dosage in half.I'm impressed.
His website is very commercial and although his dietary lifestyle is logical and sustainable it seems he's milking every last nickle and dime out of his success.

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  • Topsking2010
    Topsking2010 Posts: 2,245 Member
    I don't understand your point. If the information is legit what is wrong with marketing his product. We all have to make a living.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    I read the book and chose not to try it. It's a little extreme, for me. I thought some of it didn't make much sense, too, like his fascination with mushrooms and onions.

    And I do see your point about the marketing. Fuhrman comes off strong, like he's selling a snake oil cure. It's hard to trust that approach.
  • jambo101
    jambo101 Posts: 18
    I don't understand your point. If the information is legit what is wrong with marketing his product. We all have to make a living.
    Just trying to get some feed back on other peoples experience with the Fuhrman plan//
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,148 Member
    Once I read it has an allowed and not allowed foods listing, I ignored anything else about it.
  • DjinnMarie
    DjinnMarie Posts: 1,297 Member
    I get what he is saying, but for me good food, good friends= good times. I cherish the moments spent around the dinner table with my family and friends. And with the holidays coming up, who can claim that good food isn't a big part of the festivities?

    For me, my slogan is be move to live. And being constantly worried about calories, or types of food I can or cannot eat, avoiding birthday cake, Christmas dinner and BBQs is not "living". Eat, be merry, get moving and enjoy life. I'd much rather run a mile and eat a Reese's peanut butter pumpkin with my kids and ENJOY it than constantly questioning my choices or feeling regret. S'mores and hot chocolate around the fireplace with my kids is what I live for. And if that requires me to jog then so be it. Or maybe play a long game of tag in the backyard before enjoying the s'mores?
  • Topsking2010
    Topsking2010 Posts: 2,245 Member
    Fuhrman plan is not for everyone and personally I prefer to eat fish and chicken. A plant based diet doesn't work for me.
  • beastmode_kitty
    beastmode_kitty Posts: 844 Member
    Again, this is a fad diet type of thing. Its fine if you need a quick fix, but not for the long run. A calorie deficit and weight training is the way to go.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    I wouldn't call it a 'fad diet' and say it's 'not fine for the long run'. It's one way of achieving a low calorie diet without counting calories. A lot of people do fine with it as a way of eating.
  • Camo_xxx
    Camo_xxx Posts: 1,082 Member
    Mmmmm. Mushrooms
  • RHachicho
    RHachicho Posts: 1,115 Member
    I get what he is saying, but for me good food, good friends= good times. I cherish the moments spent around the dinner table with my family and friends. And with the holidays coming up, who can claim that good food isn't a big part of the festivities?

    For me, my slogan is be move to live. And being constantly worried about calories, or types of food I can or cannot eat, avoiding birthday cake, Christmas dinner and BBQs is not "living". Eat, be merry, get moving and enjoy life. I'd much rather run a mile and eat a Reese's peanut butter pumpkin with my kids and ENJOY it than constantly questioning my choices or feeling regret. S'mores and hot chocolate around the fireplace with my kids is what I live for. And if that requires me to jog then so be it. Or maybe play a long game of tag in the backyard before enjoying the s'mores?

    I agree completely. Lots of physical activity is what has worked for me. And worked brilliantly. And honestly no matter what you do or how hard you diet or restrict or whatever you only get one run through life. Don't forget to eat the cake. The cake is f*cking awesome!.
  • africanmasq
    africanmasq Posts: 53
    I agree completely. Lots of physical activity is what has worked for me. And worked brilliantly. And honestly no matter what you do or how hard you diet or restrict or whatever you only get one run through life. Don't forget to eat the cake. The cake is f*cking awesome!.

    Exactly. What's the point of trying so hard to live longer and healthier if you don't enjoy it? Not that food is what makes life good, but you know what I mean.
  • jambo101
    jambo101 Posts: 18
    I understand your logic Africanmasq but if i dont fix things i'm basically looking at the end game coming up way faster than i'd like.
    After the last 30 years of a brutally physical job and a carefree dietary lifestyle of eating whatever i wanted whenever i wanted i now find myself recently retired at 100lbs overweight,out of control diabetes,blood pressure and cholesterol problems and even though i now watch what i eat and go to the gymn for an hour a day nothing seemed to work to turn my medical maladies around.
    I'm not crazy about Fuhmans vegan diet but it seems the only thing that works for me.
    Any one have similar physical problems and worked their way back to good health? if so how did you do it.?
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    If you're interested in the perspective of folks DOING it, there's a group here.

    That said: Who cares if he's making money on it. Personal trainers make money improving our health. So do doctors, in fact.
  • africanmasq
    africanmasq Posts: 53
    I understand your logic Africanmasq but if i dont fix things i'm basically looking at the end game coming up way faster than i'd like.

    No, of course. I just meant that as a general thing in terms of harsh restrictions - but obviously you have to do what you have to do to get to a healthy place.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Again, this is a fad diet type of thing. Its fine if you need a quick fix, but not for the long run. A calorie deficit and weight training is the way to go.
    Have you read it?
  • jambo101
    jambo101 Posts: 18

    No, of course. I just meant that as a general thing in terms of harsh restrictions - but obviously you have to do what you have to do to get to a healthy place.
    While the eat to live plan is about going vegan i wouldnt call it harsh restrictions as you can basically eat as much as you like of fruit/vegetables/legumes /along with some nuts and seeds,
    My idea of harsh would be something like the Fat Sick and nearly dead method where you are relegated to just juice for a couple of months.
    So far going vegan is the only plan that seems to address my maladies with some measure of success with a minimum amount of sacrifice
  • michellemybelll
    michellemybelll Posts: 2,228 Member
    I get what he is saying, but for me good food, good friends= good times. I cherish the moments spent around the dinner table with my family and friends. And with the holidays coming up, who can claim that good food isn't a big part of the festivities?

    For me, my slogan is be move to live. And being constantly worried about calories, or types of food I can or cannot eat, avoiding birthday cake, Christmas dinner and BBQs is not "living". Eat, be merry, get moving and enjoy life. I'd much rather run a mile and eat a Reese's peanut butter pumpkin with my kids and ENJOY it than constantly questioning my choices or feeling regret. S'mores and hot chocolate around the fireplace with my kids is what I live for. And if that requires me to jog then so be it. Or maybe play a long game of tag in the backyard before enjoying the s'mores?

    I agree completely. Lots of physical activity is what has worked for me. And worked brilliantly. And honestly no matter what you do or how hard you diet or restrict or whatever you only get one run through life. Don't forget to eat the cake. The cake is f*cking awesome!
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  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    I wouldn't call it a 'fad diet' and say it's 'not fine for the long run'. It's one way of achieving a low calorie diet without counting calories. A lot of people do fine with it as a way of eating.

    If people will be using this as a diet for fat loss and then will discontinue the diet once they reach their goals, then it is a fad diet. If they want to make this their lifestyle and are fine with never eating anything that doesn't abide by this plan for life, th en ok cool.
  • ana3067
    ana3067 Posts: 5,623 Member
    I get what he is saying, but for me good food, good friends= good times. I cherish the moments spent around the dinner table with my family and friends. And with the holidays coming up, who can claim that good food isn't a big part of the festivities?

    For me, my slogan is be move to live. And being constantly worried about calories, or types of food I can or cannot eat, avoiding birthday cake, Christmas dinner and BBQs is not "living". Eat, be merry, get moving and enjoy life. I'd much rather run a mile and eat a Reese's peanut butter pumpkin with my kids and ENJOY it than constantly questioning my choices or feeling regret. S'mores and hot chocolate around the fireplace with my kids is what I live for. And if that requires me to jog then so be it. Or maybe play a long game of tag in the backyard before enjoying the s'mores?

    I agree completely. Lots of physical activity is what has worked for me. And worked brilliantly. And honestly no matter what you do or how hard you diet or restrict or whatever you only get one run through life. Don't forget to eat the cake. The cake is f*cking awesome!.

    This is simply creating a deficit through exercise, which is harder to maintain and manage simply because you're not as aware of the actual amount of food you are eating. I lost weight by using exercise as my deficit, and it worked.. but once I changed activity levels, I gained weight.

    I eat cake, I'm also at a deficit. Much easier to enjoy life when I'm not exercising every single day way too much in hopes I create a large enough deficit lol.
  • RHachicho
    RHachicho Posts: 1,115 Member
    Why did you change activity levels? I think that's the problem right there. I'm not doing anything I'm not planning on sustaining. And like I said in another thread I'm gonna keep watching my weight and calorie counting. If I start gaining weight because I can't keep up my activity level I will simply ease off the calories a bit. For someone with comfort eating like me health is just going to require constant vigilance. It's not something I can ever just relax and leave to chance. That's what has people regaining their weight.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    I wouldn't call it a 'fad diet' and say it's 'not fine for the long run'. It's one way of achieving a low calorie diet without counting calories. A lot of people do fine with it as a way of eating.

    If people will be using this as a diet for fat loss and then will discontinue the diet once they reach their goals, then it is a fad diet. If they want to make this their lifestyle and are fine with never eating anything that doesn't abide by this plan for life, th en ok cool.
    Eh?
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    I get what he is saying, but for me good food, good friends= good times. I cherish the moments spent around the dinner table with my family and friends. And with the holidays coming up, who can claim that good food isn't a big part of the festivities?

    For me, my slogan is be move to live. And being constantly worried about calories, or types of food I can or cannot eat, avoiding birthday cake, Christmas dinner and BBQs is not "living". Eat, be merry, get moving and enjoy life. I'd much rather run a mile and eat a Reese's peanut butter pumpkin with my kids and ENJOY it than constantly questioning my choices or feeling regret. S'mores and hot chocolate around the fireplace with my kids is what I live for. And if that requires me to jog then so be it. Or maybe play a long game of tag in the backyard before enjoying the s'mores?

    I love this!! This was also my philosophy. But once the nest emptied it seems I forgot to move. Maybe it was depression. Who knows, but I am working my way back, finally! Slowly, but surely, I will get there.
  • mactaffy84
    mactaffy84 Posts: 398 Member
    I like his approach, his words are backed up by studies for the most part. I don't alway agree with his conclusions (for instance, he says eating processed foods can cause depression, but it seemed to me that this was a correlation, not a causation. I mean, which came first? Eating junk then depression or depression and then eating junk to feel better?). His nutratarian lifestyle does not say that you have to be vegetarian or vegan. That is something I have no desire to do. But it does encourage to have the bulk of your diet be plant based. I cannot believe that anyone could think of this as "unhealthy", so if it is something that you think might work for you, I would say give it a shot. There is no doubt in my mind that you can eat more food on this style of eating, and this is based on personal experience, and when I follow it, I just am not hungry in between meals. The food is delicious that I make and that is just from my own concoctions! I imagine is you use his recipes, the food is even better. And you WILL lose weight.

    So I don't consider this to be a fad and it is in no way restrictive. Or, maybe more accurate, is that it is restrictive as you choose it to be. I eat my fair share of fish and chicken (and, gasp, even steak now and again). Right now, I can't totally follow it because I might have a duodenal ulcer, so my veggies have to be cooked (cooked is important in the program, but especially raw is stressed) until my doctor and I figure out what is going on, but I'll be back to my salads as soon as I possibly can.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    I agree completely. Lots of physical activity is what has worked for me. And worked brilliantly. And honestly no matter what you do or how hard you diet or restrict or whatever you only get one run through life. Don't forget to eat the cake. The cake is f*cking awesome!.

    Exactly. What's the point of trying so hard to live longer and healthier if you don't enjoy it? Not that food is what makes life good, but you know what I mean.

    I believe I do more or less know what you mean. But if you've ever known someone with severe food allergies, you would know that food is not the secret to enjoying life for everyone. Sometimes following a restrictive diet is what makes life enjoyable. I could see the same being true for those that find restricting foods makes losing weight easier. There are many paths to health and happiness.

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