Friends with alternative weight loss techniques?

So look, you're doing it your own way... and asking other people that use "alternative methods" to be friends? Most folks that have tried "alternative" methods have come here to find a way to use numbers to lose weight.
the fact that you had to bump your own post twice before someone else responded may stand to reason that most folks are finding success making it about calories in VS calories out.
I know it worked for me.
I'd really recommend it to others, since it works. Science and all that.

And what is "IF"?

It's just an example I took. Intermittent fasting. Like some people who don't count but only eat once a day or something.

I do IF. I still count.
I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but you might want to check your sources.

There are people who use fasting exclusively. And if that's the case, you should really tell mfp that they should rename their site. It's fooling people walking in looking for support.

that doesn't make sense. you're trying to tell me that there are people that just don't eat?

I don't... I don't get it.

I do intermittent fasting. I don't eat breakfast. I have a nice big lunch sometimes.. or maybe a big dinner. Then I stop.
As long as the calorie amount is within my TDEE range, I'll maintain. If it's less over a period of time, I'll lose.

Why would MFP have to change something because you don't understand the concept of IF...?

So look, you're doing it your own way... and asking other people that use "alternative methods" to be friends? Most folks that have tried "alternative" methods have come here to find a way to use numbers to lose weight.
the fact that you had to bump your own post twice before someone else responded may stand to reason that most folks are finding success making it about calories in VS calories out.
I know it worked for me.
I'd really recommend it to others, since it works. Science and all that.

And what is "IF"?

It's just an example I took. Intermittent fasting. Like some people who don't count but only eat once a day or something.

I do IF. I still count.
I'm not sure where you're getting your information from, but you might want to check your sources.

There are people who use fasting exclusively. And if that's the case, you should really tell mfp that they should rename their site. It's fooling people walking in looking for support.

that doesn't make sense. you're trying to tell me that there are people that just don't eat?
I don't... I don't get it.
I do intermittent fasting. I don't eat breakfast. I have a nice big lunch sometimes.. or maybe a big dinner. Then I stop.
As long as the calorie amount is within my TDEE range, I'll maintain. If it's less over a period of time, I'll lose.
Why would MFP have to change something because you don't understand the concept of IF...?

Yeah I can see it doesn't make sense for you. Because you know obviously the cavemen had a calorie counting app on their iphone on which they counted their meals they gathered/killed at the end of the day.

Also IF had nothing to do with that statement. I was talking about you assuming everyone is just here to count calories and nothing more.

....so you're interested in the nutrients in your food. I get that. How are you going to know if you're getting enough protein to retain lean body mass? What about enough fats? carbs? enough calcium?

If you're not tracking, you won't know.

I spoke up because you have a very skewed idea of what intermittent fasting is... since you claimed it's just something that it isn't.

This site is just a tool. A lot of people have had a LOT of success just using it as designed... but that's just it, it's only a tool.

It IS effectively designed to figure out a simple caloric deficit in order to lose weight at a nice rate.

I'm not sure where the caveman parallel came from either... but okay. Is that an allusion to you following a Paleo diet? No? Okay. Cool.

Since this site is a food database and calculator, does it not make sense to assume that most folks would be here to use it as designed?

getting butthurt because I don't do it the way you want to do it is fine. I'm not saying you're doing it wrong. I'm just saying that this place is effectively designed to be used to do it... not the way that you are.

but if you're gonna insist, that's fine too... just don't litter the forums with information that you know absolutely nothing about.

And op deactivated.

I always thought counting calories would be tedious and time consuming and lame. I could do it myself. I have don all of those other diets, with rules, don't eat after 6pm, protein with every meal, protein only days, IF, shakes, pills, avoid carbs, avoid fruits.....I'm still fat.

If making rules up works for you that's great. We are all individuals and different things are going to work for different people.

But I agree with the others - the whole point of this site is to count calories. From personal experience, the alternative weight loss methods only ever made my wallet lighter....I'm still fat.