Any Former Low-Carbers Succeeding with Calorie Counting?

So I've been a low carb kinda guy for a long time now. But I am burnt out on it and want more variety in my diet.

I'm curious if any of you were low-carbers who switched to a more "macro-nutrient agnostic" healthy diet? Using calorie counting as your primary tool to control calorie intake, rather than LC.

Personally LC no longer seems to control my hunger as well as it used to, which was the main reason I followed it.

But I do now have a bit of carb-phobia I guess, and fear I may balloon up like a whale if I start eating carbs again. I'm also prone to hypoglycemic episodes, so I know I'll never go HIGH carb...but I feel like a moderate carb diet based on slowly digesting carbs could work for me.

But it would be nice to hear from others who've been down this road. Especially any of you who were long-term low-carbers, who made the switch.

Thanks!

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  • angela233Z
    angela233Z Posts: 312 Member
    Yes

    I did low carb about 8 years ago and lost 20 lbs. Maintained the lose for 4 years.
    Got divorced, went back to college, got a job and gained weight due to stress, medications blah blah

    I tried going back to low carb but was unsuccessful. I am now doing 5:2 where I eat lower calorie 2 days a week and maintenance the other 5. On my 2 low calorie days, they are usually low carb also, eggs, chicken and tons of vegetables. Other 5, I eat anything I want as long as it fits my calorie goal.

    Now that I am answering you, I realize I probably do eat less carbs than most people, but not what I would consider low carb. For example for breakfast I eat eggs or oatmeal or smoothie. I would not have a doughnut or bagel.

    I have found it to be as successful as low carb for me and easier to stick to.

    good luck
  • tuxedord2
    tuxedord2 Posts: 69 Member
    I hope some people respond to your question. I am wondering something similar. Have been an impatient yo yo for years and the only thing that "works" is very low carb for me. Unfortunately, it "works" to get the weight off but when I slide-- for whatever reason-- I go right back and up and over. Been that way for years...

    This time around I am trying carb cycling and mixing low carb days with moderate carb days (still the good kind of carbs) -- I am maintaining an overall weekly calorie deficit. So far so good as the weight is coming down (again), but this is the easy weight. Will let you know in about 2 months how it really "works." Carb cycling seems like a friendly lifestyle approach.
  • girlviernes
    girlviernes Posts: 2,402 Member
    One thing to always keep in mind is that low carb will lower the amount of water your body holds onto so when you first cut carbs it will seem like you lose a lot quickly, and vice versa when you start eating more carbs it can seem like you put on weight fast - but a big part of it will be water.
  • SingingSingleTracker
    SingingSingleTracker Posts: 1,866 Member
    So I've been a low carb kinda guy for a long time now. But I am burnt out on it and want more variety in my diet.

    I'm curious if any of you were low-carbers who switched to a more "macro-nutrient agnostic" healthy diet? Using calorie counting as your primary tool to control calorie intake, rather than LC.

    Personally LC no longer seems to control my hunger as well as it used to, which was the main reason I followed it.

    But I do now have a bit of carb-phobia I guess, and fear I may balloon up like a whale if I start eating carbs again. I'm also prone to hypoglycemic episodes, so I know I'll never go HIGH carb...but I feel like a moderate carb diet based on slowly digesting carbs could work for me.

    But it would be nice to hear from others who've been down this road. Especially any of you who were long-term low-carbers, who made the switch.

    Thanks!

    I lost my 1st "spare tire" of 20 pounds doing LC. Maintained most of the loss for a decade, but couldn't really get rid of the skinny fat syndrome. Went to CICO (calories in vs. calories out) using MFP beginning January 6 of this year and shed 21 pounds (about a pound a week). I eat the gamut of what is out there, but focus on counting calories - and eating a lot of cholesterol lowering/improving foods.
  • mysterymanx
    mysterymanx Posts: 2 Member
    Thanks for the input guys. I'm going to give moderate 'slow carb' / moderate-fat a go I think. Combined with calorie tracking. Just really need more flexibility in my diet, which of course is one of the main advantages of calorie tracking vs some kind of rigid 'diet"...and adding some legumes to the ole menu should also help lower my through-the-roof grocery bill caused by LC. A tray of chicken breasts that used to be about $9 is now going for $16 at my local Krogers!
  • colors_fade
    colors_fade Posts: 464 Member
    Just really need more flexibility in my diet, which of course is one of the main advantages of calorie tracking vs some kind of rigid 'diet"...

    This is the whole reason I don't do low-carb. I tried it years ago when it was hip (Atkins) and was not pleased with the way it made me feel, especially how it manipulated my relationship with food, and how I felt I was being denied food all the time. I don't like the feeling of denial.

    Calorie counting works, but you MUST be honest about the calories at all times. The vast majority of people who have problems losing weight do so because they are miscounting calories and not reporting correctly (https://gokaleo.com/2014/09/05/the-real-issue/)

    Be honest, count accurately, and you will see results. Add exercise and strength training to the equation and you'll see even better results.

    Good luck.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    I have more success counting calories but I tend to really limit pasta, breads, white potatoes, sugar and that sort of thing, because they're not worth the calories to me for how filling they are. But I like the freedom to have whatever I want.

    I hear ya on the meat prices.
  • Julieboolieaz
    Julieboolieaz Posts: 658 Member
    I've been a low carber for about 11 years. I lost 100lbs with Atkins 10 years ago, and another 30 over the past 3 years w/ lower carb, lower cal etc. I'm trying now to build/maintain muscle and strength while lowering body fat.

    I've been working on a calorie deficit 20-25%, which most experts recommend. Ive kept my carbs around 40%, which is higher than i used to eat, but still much lower than most people do.

    I've been working out pretty hard for 7+ weeks, weight training pretty heavy 3x/week and HIIT or Zumba cardio 2-3 times a week. I have not lost anything :(. In fact, I took a break last week for a trip to MN and ate higher cals (mostly around maintenance, maybe a bit over a few days) and gained 3 lbs!

    My body fat has been going down a bit which is nice, but not very quickly, which is fine. But, I've recently decided to lower my calories a bit more, and lower my carbs a bit more too. I'm hoping to get the scale moving again.

    So, to answer your question-not really. I've been able to maintain on higher carbs, but not able to lose thorough the higher carb levels and counting calories alone. I may be insulin resistant and lower carbs, no sugar, works best for me personally. Many, if not most, here on MFP lose well with just a calorie deficit and seem to be able to eat whatever they want if they hit their calorie and macros. I haven't experienced that personally though :(.
  • JtKeil
    JtKeil Posts: 1,389 Member
    Yes I did Atkins years ago and lost around 30 lbs but in general I wasn't happy with the diet. This was before I became vegetarian though. The great thing about it was the appetite control that I never felt on other diets. However, in the long term this didn't suit me since well...the best way to put this is, carbs make me happy and I didn't enjoy limiting them.

    Sure, fats and proteins are tasty, but they go so much better with carbs instead of on their own.
  • I just started my own weight loss plan for the third time in my life. I'm seventy so that's not much. Until I was fifty I never put a lb. on. But I got very sick, was in bed for months with my mother cooking for me and then went on meds that cause weight gain. I went to WW because that's what people did in those days. They were using the point system that actually limited carbs more than anyone realized. Obviously it wasn't Atkins; it limited them even more. Lost the weight but had no concept of maintenance and put most back on.

    Went back a few years later. Same point system. Basically low fat, high fiber and you can't eat a lot of carbs and stay in points which are actually calories. Lost the weight. Kept it off for ten years just by watching and eating healthily. Added healthy fats to diet.

    Started "my own diet" the day the NYT's and other media said now we should eat MORE FAT and less carbs. So I'm trying to do it. I'm staying well within my 1200 calorie count but attempts to lower carbs are tricky because of fruit. I love fruit and in the northeast this is the best (and one of the few times of year) when fruit was so wonderful. I am not giving up fruit. I suspect if I did I'd want chocolate, etc.

    I have Crohn's disease in remission so I don't fool around with real junk food but I like jasmine brown rice, rice noodles and good pasta. I measure carefully which is the most important thing I learned in WW.

    I'm sorry if I shouldn't have responded to this thread but it's only my third day here and I spent six hours yesterday reading the new research on carbs and fats. One of my docs faxed the original article to me and said it was good research. He also told me to tailor my diet around my specific problems. The three hundred responses to the NYT's article ran the gamut.

    I suspect it's the next "new" thing because I bought "When Pigs Fly" low carb whole wheat bread yesterday! Prominent display!
  • ejacks71
    ejacks71 Posts: 1 Member
    I think if you remove bread, pastries and pasta, other carbs are ok.. e.g brown rice, cous cous, the odd potato and even the odd crisp.. And I think eating fruit is fine... Also try to remove ALL chocolate and sugar/candy and replace with fruits and nuts, - for dessert choose yoghurt with honey & nuts..or fruit... I've been calorie counting for the last few years.. compounded by the fact I have an underactive thyroid, the only way I am losing weight, albeit slowly, is by eating absolutely no bread, pasta, croissants, flans, chocolate bars and biscuits. i would eat those things before, but still calorie count religiously but still didn't lose any weight. (And yes I was being honest with my calorie counting...) Over the last month or so, I have cut out all the foods mentioned above, and although I've not weighed myself, I know I have lost weight. My body is slimmer.. my jeans are looser..my skin is looking great.. I feel really good....

    I'm currently eating

    Soups
    Salads with chicken, salmon
    fruit (blueberries, cherries, bananas, mangos, apples, pomegranates)
    Dried figs, dates, cherries (these really satisfy my sweet tooth) - always eat in moderation (2-3 figs a day e.g.)
    brown rice occasionally
    Cous cous occasionally
    nuts
    honey
    low fat yoghurt with honey and fruit or nuts
    Chicken and veg kebabs
    Steak with a side of mushrooms and onions
    salmon with sweet potato mash (better than normal spuds)
    stir fries (w chicken or prawns or beef )
    Lamb and veggie kebabs with tzaziki (could serve with cous cous if you're really hungry)
    Baked bananas are delicious served with a little honey
    Goats cheese and beetroot is great in a salad


    Hope this helps?
    Jacqueline.
  • 3laine75
    3laine75 Posts: 3,069 Member
    Yes. I lost a lot of weight with low-carb but it didn't stay off (entirely my own fault). Having a sensible balance suits me a lot better now.
  • silentKayak
    silentKayak Posts: 658 Member
    I lost 40 lbs in 8 months on extreme low-carb (carbs below 30g/day, no calorie counting). Then put it back on and more.

    Now I'm doing CICO with great results so far. I think it's a huge transition for the reasons you mention. The foods you can eat with abandon on low-carb (meat, butter, bacon, fats, avocado, nuts, cheese) all become 'eat with caution' on CICO. And foods that are absolute no-nos on low-carb (pasta, rice, etc but also starchy vegetables and fruits) because "eat with caution".

    On both diets, I eat the same things liberally - salads, green vegetables, etc.

    I think CICO is more long-term maintainable because of the flexibility. I got really bored on low-carb, and I honestly never had a plan for keeping it off. CICO is something I could easily do forever. I really love that nothing is forbidden. You can "save" calories for a big dinner out or have a huge pancake breakfast and then limit food for the rest of the day (or do more exercise, or do better the next day). Or figure out what a "normal" day looks like and have lots of choices - do I want to spend my 200 breakfast calories on eggs and bacon OR cereal and yogurt, because either works.

    On low-carb I was really afraid of food. I remember spending hours in the grocery store inspecting labels. Not anymore.

    I also think CICO leads to long-term healthier food choices. I don't think low-carb is unhealthy, but when you've learned to eat all those fats and oils and then you (almost invariably) go off it and add in all the starch too, you're going to have extra problems: bad habits, too large portion sizes, too many calories, and the weight comes back on.

    Feel free to friend me :)