Too many bad fats and carbs in my diet?

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It's all about satiety. That is why when I was trying to lose weight I gave up 95% of refined sugar, and 95% of carbs (other than from fruits and especially vegetables, which I loaded up)....

If you are hungry all the time, you will not reach and/or maintain your ideal weight. So give this a try, even though it may not work for you.

I'm sure there are people who do better on fewer carbs, but in that it's specific to individuals I think it's absurd to tell others that they will be hungry unless they go low carb.

Never said that. I said it works for me and works for many others. I suggested the OP had nothing to lose by trying it, and it might not work for him. And if it works, maybe he can manage with even fewer daily calories.

And I get plenty of carbs from veggies, rather than cereal, past and bread. Again, works for me and many others.

You recommended that he change his diet with no hint that what he's doing isn't working for him. And it's not necessarily beneficial to "manage with even fewer daily calories"--you have no idea what he's eating now.

Veggies are basically carbs, but they don't have a lot of carbs because they don't have a lot of calories, period. But I'm not interested in how many carbs you get. I assume that how you eat is fine, FOR YOU. It's the evangelicalism about this that I find absurd.

Bagels get such a bad name around here! I often have one for breakfast as well, or oatmeal, or mini wheats, and I do just fine. I sometimes wonder if it's the expectation to feel hungry x many hours after eating a bagel that leads to the hunger feeling. I also do eggs some mornings and have found for me, 250 calories of eggs and a little bit of cheese goes about as far as 250 calories of a bagel. :shrug:

Plain bagel (no cream cheese, so no fat) was my go-to breakfast for convenience sake when I was gaining weight. Not claiming that's the only reason I ate all day but it did nothing for keeping me sated. I really do need protein and some fat in the morning. But I believe that people are different (some not liking breakfast at all, some preferring smaller breakfasts). I wasn't a picky child in the usual ways (I'd eat Brussels sprouts and liver, even), but I hated cold cereal and would have eggs as soon as I was old enough to make my own (although for a while I just refused to eat breakfast at all), so I suppose it's not surprising that as an adult I prefer less carb-focused breakfasts.

Bagels get such a bad name around here! I often have one for breakfast as well, or oatmeal, or mini wheats, and I do just fine. I sometimes wonder if it's the expectation to feel hungry x many hours after eating a bagel that leads to the hunger feeling. I also do eggs some mornings and have found for me, 250 calories of eggs and a little bit of cheese goes about as far as 250 calories of a bagel. :shrug:

Plain bagel (no cream cheese, so no fat) was my go-to breakfast for convenience sake when I was gaining weight. Not claiming that's the only reason I ate all day but it did nothing for keeping me sated. I really do need protein and some fat in the morning. But I believe that people are different (some not liking breakfast at all, some preferring smaller breakfasts). I wasn't a picky child in the usual ways (I'd eat Brussels sprouts and liver, even), but I hated cold cereal and would have eggs as soon as I was old enough to make my own (although for a while I just refused to eat breakfast at all), so I suppose it's not surprising that as an adult I prefer less carb-focused breakfasts.

I was definitely not trying to say that people aren't different in their food preferences; I was just pointing out that bagels get a bad name around here! :laugh:

For me, I'm an ugly, angry person if I'm hungry so IF or not eating breakfast just really isn't an option but that doesn't mean everyone has to eat breakfast! :drinker:

My degree is in respiratory therapy, which is the same degree level as a nurse (bachelors degree) and a couple of levels higher than an EMS provider.

But that bachelors degree is heavily focused on things that have little to due with nutrition. Degrees whether they be high school diplomas or PhD's or MD's simply mean you passed the minimum competencies necessary to earn said degree. Working in a hospital I'm certain you've met doctor's you wouldn't let get near your dog let alone a friend or family member. Education is great but it proves nothing. No matter how many degrees you or anyone else has, does not change the fact that it's probably a poor idea to limit yourself to 30 grams of fat or less per day.

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I am really sorry. The only reason I mentioned my degree is because that other guy said something about it. I understand why you are able to consume more fat than I am. You are all muscley. I know that is not a word.LOL. MFP set my daily caloric intake at 1200 calories and my fat intake at 40 grams. I tend to eat a bit less fat than that because since having my gall bladder removed, too much fat makes me ill. Looking back at your food diary from when you first started it seems as though you only ate 400-600 calories per day. Of course, perhaps you were not logging everything you ate. If I ate 100 grams of fat per day then that would be 900 of my calories. That would only leave me with 300 calories for protein and carbs. This, of course, will be my last post on this subject. I did not realize that getting attacked via computer was part of "support".

You aren't being ganged up on. You came on a public forum and made the statement "I try and eat under 30 grams of fat a day". You also failed to clarify that this was because of a medical condition. The reason people commented on it, was because it's not an optimal way to go about things especially for the majority of the people here who do not share you medical condition. So not only were our comments actually directed at helping you, because of the nature of the public forum, we may also prevent others from seeing your comment and think they to should eat under 30 grams of fat or that eating low fat is in some way healthy or prevents cardio vascular disease as you alluded to in your other comments. Many people here are very new to health an nutrition and there is SOOOO much misinformation and pseudoscience out there. People like MrM and myself do our best to keep fitness myths at bay. So when we see low fat being praised we want to make sure both the person praising it, and others, understand that low fat is actually not optimal for most people.

As far as my logging, I was a member of MFP for quite a while before I logged food consistently and accurately. I'm not really sure what that had to do with anything. Being muscular doesn't necessary allow you to eat more fat. I eat around the same fat as I have for the past several years. I try to consume no less then 0.3 grams per lb of bodyweight on average with 0.4 being my norm.