Am I destined to be fat or what?

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  • xtineds
    xtineds Posts: 4 Member
    I just went through your diary and you consume a lot of high calorie, high sodium, high sugar, overly processed food. As long as you are in a calorie deficit you can have these things but are probably underestimating them. Get a scale, have smaller portions of favorite items and pair with a salad or veggie. Its all about balance. Try cooking at home more and preparing meals. You will eliminate a lot of hidden fats and oils that food is cook in and thus overall eliminating calories. You should make convenience meals more of a treat instead of the norm. Fill your day with fresh veggies, fruits and lean meats to fill up on and you will find you can eat a lot more during the day. Also, you seem to always eat back all of your exercise calories and not in the form of healthy protein and carbs. Try eating back only half of your workout calories as these may also be grossly overestimated. But all in all, I'd say your "diet" and nutrition need some major overhaul.

    Great tips! I agree with all of them. AND DRINK THAT WATER!!!
  • caminoslo
    caminoslo Posts: 239 Member
    Take a look at her diary. It's far to high in carbs for her daily caloric intake she's trying to hit.

    Many days you're not even hitting 50g of protein, while over 200g of carbs. I'd bet you'd start to see significant weight loss within weeks if daily caloric intake is what you're claiming to log and you were closer to <150g carbs and 100g+ protein.

    There are tons and tons of articles and peer reviewed essays that talk about high protein diets being a contributing factor to fat burn. http://www.bing.com/search?q=diet+high+in+protein+weight+loss&src=ie9tr
    AGREED too many carbs
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    You are eating more than you think! First entry: Quaker Oats - Old Fashion Oatmeal, 1 cup dry 300 . One CUP of dried oatmeal is 600 calories. There is 300 calories right there. I stopped after that.
  • Actually "clean" eating means cutting out processed, fast-food, and convenience foods. Clean eating means not choosing hamburgers, and ramen, candy bars, and soda. I'm all for cheat days because if I didn't allow for cravings sometimes, I'd go overboard all the time. I don't know how you feel about chemicals and additives, but I don't consider that clean eating.
  • FRUITS AND VEGGIES! Try clean eating! Your diary is so fully of processed convenience foods. And your biggest mistake is logging "homemade" and "generic" foods - stick to the foods with the most number of confirmations, even if it's from Panda Express. Also, if you're not weighing or measuring your portions, how do you know exactly what you're eating when you eat fast food? You can definitely get into shape, but you can't treat every day as a cheat day; you need to learn the valuable art of clean eating. I guarantee the pounds will come off.

    Seriously, stop it. This is not helpful. It's not what the food is, it's overall calories and macros. As long as a person eats in a calorie deficit, the pounds will come off, it doesn't matter what the food being consumed is.


    ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?! I understand that a lot of you out there are here to lose weight, but IT IS ALL ABOUT THE FOOD YOU EAT! Period. This, along with exercise, IS the only thing that is going to get your body healthy. Are you seriously telling me that someone who eats a McMuffin for breakfast (because it's ONLY 400 calories) and Panda Express for lunch, and pizza for dinner, and soda through out the day, and is still within their calorie deficit is as healthy as someone who is drinking water and eating fresh, unprocessed fruits, veggies, and grains? All of you who think this way can be happy with your thin bodies, but your body isn't going to be functioning at it's best, highest level if you continue to think about nutrition like this. You, my dear, are completely wrong in giving this advice.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Actually "clean" eating means cutting out processed, fast-food, and convenience foods.

    Depends who you ask. A shocking number of people claim to be "clean eaters" and eat lots of processed foods, and plenty of others claim that "clean" means no white foods or grains or sugar or any number of other self-defined rules.

    Given this, I think we should all just acknowledge that "clean" means nothing in particular and is mostly just a way of claiming that the way you eat is superior to the way someone else eats.

    Personally, I think about what I eat, but some of it--like yogurt, cottage cheese, smoked salmon, probably frozen veggies and canned tomatoes in the winter, steel cut oats, whole wheat pasta, quinoa, protein powder, etc.--is processed. Rather than thinking of these things as "cheats" or "unclean" (weird), I consider them to be foods I have chosen to eat because they meet some nutritional or taste consideration that I find important. Along with that, I'd include ice cream (homemade or otherwise), the pie I will make on Thanksgiving from fabulous ingredients, and the meals I get from restaurants, whether lunch places that meet my nutritional requirements and quality concerns or the various local restaurants I like for the occasional dinner.
    Clean eating means not choosing hamburgers, and ramen, candy bars, and soda.

    What the heck is wrong with burgers inherently? I get ground beef (along with other meat) from a local farm. It's even from cows that are grass fed and raised humanely, etc. I sometimes use it for pasta sauce or eat it on its own or, yes, make a burger. Don't see why that's "unclean." Similarly, if I go to a local restaurant with good ingredients, why is the burger more unclean than, say, the chicken? Or is restaurant food inherently "unclean"? See the confusion? Why not just aim for an overall nutritious, balanced diet and forget about the clean/unclean dichotomy? It really seems to serve no good purpose, and just asks to have someone go through your diet to see how "clean" it really is.
    I'm all for cheat days because if I didn't allow for cravings sometimes, I'd go overboard all the time. I don't know how you feel about chemicals and additives, but I don't consider that clean eating.

    I don't cheat. I am concerned about overall balance and nutrition. I don't see why my diet is less healthy if I eat a 45 calorie Café Tasse Noir (my current favorite bit of chocolate to have after lunch on occasion) or even 200 calories of ice cream if I have lots of calories and have had my protein, fiber, and veggies. Re chemicals and additives, there are various things I choose not to eat (I don't personally choose to have HFCS or added transfats, and I simply don't like most packaged foods when compared to what I can cook myself), but I think a blanket prohibition on "processed" foods is too broad. There are many processed foods (the ones listed above, legumes, which I should eat more of) that are nutritionally positive. A focus on simply excluding allegedly bad foods and not creating a sensible balanced diet that meets nutritional needs and tastes good seems to me the wrong focus.

    IME, if you focus on the sensible balanced diet, you aren't even going to want to or have room to be immoderate wrt high calorie sweets or chips or whatever it is that you are concerned about, other than rarely. I have a weakness for French fries, personally, and yet I did not need to cut them out or some foolish thing that would cause me to think about them more, and certainly not to declare them "unclean" (which makes no sense, especially since I can make them myself out of nice, clean potatoes). But because I'm focusing on other things I don't eat them often at all. And when I do I enjoy them and do not feel guilty or beat myself up or think I've polluted my body or fallen off the wagon or whatever. Ugh.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Are you seriously telling me that someone who eats a McMuffin for breakfast (because it's ONLY 400 calories) and Panda Express for lunch, and pizza for dinner, and soda through out the day, and is still within their calorie deficit is as healthy as someone who is drinking water and eating fresh, unprocessed fruits, veggies, and grains?

    Well, from your example that person might be doing better in the protein department.

    But, no, I suspect the first person wouldn't be satisfied or feel as good as possible and thus would change his or her diet naturally, based on what works. I just don't think it's sensible (or morally right) to lie and tell that person he or she cannot lose weight unless fast food is excluded.

    Now, if that person says he or she is hungry and asks for advice, I'd point to food choice (and have seen that happen here). If the person asks about nutrition or the like, same. But I've also known someone who lost a bunch of weight and ended up changing her diet to be much healthier by first starting by reducing fast food portions and paying attention to calories. Sometimes it's a process, and sometimes a really long one. That wouldn't have worked for me--it's easier for me to focus on eating healthy plus cutting calories, and anyway I didn't really eat fast food even when I was fat, but if I'd been a different person it might have (just like for me it's important to focus on exercise goals, but it isn't for everyone). Just as the fact I ate good quality food didn't make it any less unhealthy to be as fat as I used to be, losing the weight would have been good for my health even if I'd lost a bunch of it by eating fast food (although for me that sounds terribly unsatisfying).
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    I struggle. 3 months ago I was down 80lbs now you see I'm back up. Every friggin day is a literal battle with food and myself. It's exhausting there are times when I'm like F" it I'm going to be fat, eat what I want, when I want, and not worry because it's easier. Then I look down at my son. He is the result of that struggle that battle. If I had not kept pushing I'd never have lost enough weight to balance my hormones. I thought I was destined to never have a child, but luckily there is that little glimmer of hope in all of us that keeps making us push despite how many times we fall and trip ourselves up.

    No, you are not destined to be fat. There is no preordained fate looking down on you saying that women will always be fat. You know that it's possible, but it's a g-d damn f'en hard struggle every day. Some days we get tired, and we feel hopeless. You can do it though, you can make it happen. Never stop fighting it's all we have.
  • There is some really great advice on here.

    I am starting to use my food scale. Also, I use measuring cups and spoons. My husband bought a bunch of tupperware that has "ounces" measured on them. I cannot believe how much I was over eating.

    One thing I am noticing though, using MFP, they show a "mixed green salad with no dressing" at 170 calories! LOL! Some of the calculations on here are incorrect, if I have to keep going to other resources for calorie counts I may bail on this tracker. I think SparkPeople has one that is a little more reliable.

    Anyhow, thanks to all of you who posted suggestions on here! I am going to use them!
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    One thing I am noticing though, using MFP, they show a "mixed green salad with no dressing" at 170 calories! LOL! Some of the calculations on here are incorrect, if I have to keep going to other resources for calorie counts I may bail on this tracker. I think SparkPeople has one that is a little more reliable.
    That's because you have no idea what the person who originally created that entry for "mixed green salad with no dressing" put into their salad. Entries with asterisks are user-created. It's always better and more accurate for you to create your own recipes or enter each individual component of a dish as a separate item.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    One thing I am noticing though, using MFP, they show a "mixed green salad with no dressing" at 170 calories! LOL! Some of the calculations on here are incorrect, if I have to keep going to other resources for calorie counts I may bail on this tracker.

    The database is actually great, the best I've used (I did Livestrong for a while), but there are tricks, mostly learning to avoid the inaccurate stuff. For a salad or anything else made up of components, the only accurate way to do it (as AliceDark said) is to break it into the components or create your own recipe (I never bother with that for something like a salad, but my salads vary a lot in ingredients from day to day).

    When I make a salad I put the plate or bowl on the scale, hit tare, and then add my greens and other ingredients and note each one. Sometimes I just estimate the greens based on cups, since the calories are so low, but doing the whole thing on the scale is super easy and adds really no time to my chopping and prep. If you use someone else's mixed salad, you have no idea what they put on it, which is why there are wacky counts sometimes.
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  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    Well, you can shave 40 calories right off the top by ditching the pills....they're a worthless waste of money.

    Cut the exercise calories MFP gives you in half when you log them. Or, if you're not planning on weighing out your food, go with 25% of what MFP gives you. That might help you create the deficit you're missing. Try to add some more nutrient dense foods into your diet. You'll be able to eat more, volume wise, than if you're eating mostly higher calorie foods. You don't have to ditch the pizza and chinese take out completely, but try to mix in more protein and veggies.