Anyone doing the Low carb/ High fat & protien "diet"?
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the way i see it, everyone has a diet. a diet is the way you eat. going on so-called fad diets do not work, just like everyone says, because once you quit doing them, the weight comes back. the reason i am interested in the keto is because it is a lifestyle choice (so is paleo) - it isn't a fad. it is something to stick to for the rest of your life and has the ability to incorporate everything at one point. (such as, if i eat a cupcake once a year on my birthday, i am not going to gain back all my weight)
saying that eating keto does not have a higher success rate would require more information and research. i would be interested to see why someone would say that. ANYTHING that you stick to for the rest of your life can be successful. putting a blanket "it won't work" on it just isn't fair, IMO.
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I completely agree... I just hate seeing people shut things down but not have any counter suggestions.... Well said
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A typical banana has like 29 carbs ..
Go on YouTube and see about the girl that ate 51 banana's at once .. guess what, she is super fit and strong. Oh and skinny too.
And she does it all the time.
Do the math .. that should make the low carb people have a coronary just looking at that number.
The whole low carb thing is just a stupid *** idea someone cooked up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with carbs.
I would be more worried about all the unhealthy low carb foods that you are forced to eat when trying to avoid carbs and what they will do to your body over time.0 -
the reason i am interested in the keto is because it is a lifestyle choice (so is paleo) - it isn't a fad.
99.99% of people who start down the keto path quickly fall off of it, so it clearly is a fad and not a "lifestyle change" for the vast, overwhelming majority of people. Because it is demonstrably a very very very very difficult path to stick to, that should tell you right away that it runs contrary to our biological makeup....saying that eating keto does not have a higher success rate would require more information and research.
It's been done and widely circulated.0 -
A typical banana has like 29 carbs ..
Go on YouTube and see about the girl that ate 51 banana's at once .. guess what, she is super fit and strong. Oh and skinny too.
And she does it all the time.
Do the math .. that should make the low carb people have a coronary just looking at that number.
The whole low carb thing is just a stupid *** idea someone cooked up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with carbs.
I would be more worried about all the unhealthy low carb foods that you are forced to eat when trying to avoid carbs and what they will do to your body over time.
And there are plenty of videos of people who eat low carb who are ripped and fit. So what? There is no cookie-cutter diet for everyone. Just because this girl eats tons of bananas means nothing for everyone else. Oh, and what low carb foods? You mean things that I eat regularly like spinach, asparagus, and eggs? Yes, there are terribly processed low carb "diet" foods, and I do not eat them. Basically anything I eat I prepare myself. There's no need for the hate.0 -
A typical banana has like 29 carbs ..
Go on YouTube and see about the girl that ate 51 banana's at once .. guess what, she is super fit and strong. Oh and skinny too.
And she does it all the time.
Do the math .. that should make the low carb people have a coronary just looking at that number.
The whole low carb thing is just a stupid *** idea someone cooked up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with carbs.
I would be more worried about all the unhealthy low carb foods that you are forced to eat when trying to avoid carbs and what they will do to your body over time.
first of all, i totally agree with you as far as the low carb foods that are pre-packaged. i am replacing carbs with healthy alternatives.
second, i do not know why people have to call what someone else does a "stupid @ss idea"
my daughter is gluten intolerant, so she naturally eats fewer carbs because of this. i have a mental health issue, so carbs ARE bad for me. there IS something wrong with carbs FOR ME. i do eat carbs, i just do not chow down on 1000g/carbs per day like i used to. i eat HEALTHY carbs which are good for me.
and by the way, eating 51 bananas isn't healthy either. and people have died from drinking too much water. don't say what we are doing is stupid and then site an example of someone else doing something stupid.0 -
A typical banana has like 29 carbs ..
Go on YouTube and see about the girl that ate 51 banana's at once .. guess what, she is super fit and strong. Oh and skinny too.
And she does it all the time.
Do the math .. that should make the low carb people have a coronary just looking at that number.
The whole low carb thing is just a stupid *** idea someone cooked up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with carbs.
I would be more worried about all the unhealthy low carb foods that you are forced to eat when trying to avoid carbs and what they will do to your body over time.
Just because you dont think something would work for you and you have different beliefs doesnt make it stupid.... just like you pointed out banana girl im sure someone who practices a low carb lifestyle can point out someone super fit.... to each their own. No where in the diet plan that i have read so far while looking on line did it say eliminate ALL CARBS... but it does say to minimize them and replace bad carbs with carbs from veggies... I dont know but that doesnt sound stupid to me.0 -
Because it is demonstrably a very very very very difficult path to stick to, that should tell you right away that it runs contrary to our biological makeup.
you can see my post above0 -
And there are plenty of videos of people who eat low carb who are ripped and fit. So what? There is no cookie-cutter diet for everyone. Just because this girl eats tons of bananas means nothing for everyone else. Oh, and what low carb foods? You mean things that I eat regularly like spinach, asparagus, and eggs? Yes, there are terribly processed low carb "diet" foods, and I do not eat them. Basically anything I eat I prepare myself. There's no need for the hate.
hooray! agree!!!
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A typical banana has like 29 carbs ..
Go on YouTube and see about the girl that ate 51 banana's at once .. guess what, she is super fit and strong. Oh and skinny too.
And she does it all the time.
Do the math .. that should make the low carb people have a coronary just looking at that number.
The whole low carb thing is just a stupid *** idea someone cooked up. There is absolutely nothing wrong with carbs.
I would be more worried about all the unhealthy low carb foods that you are forced to eat when trying to avoid carbs and what they will do to your body over time.
And there are plenty of videos of people who eat low carb who are ripped and fit. So what? There is no cookie-cutter diet for everyone. Just because this girl eats tons of bananas means nothing for everyone else. Oh, and what low carb foods? You mean things that I eat regularly like spinach, asparagus, and eggs? Yes, there are terribly processed low carb "diet" foods, and I do not eat them. Basically anything I eat I prepare myself. There's no need for the hate.
THIS.... and as a child I was hospitalized for having too much potassium and basically watched to see if I would die for a week so make sure u tell banana girl that I said good luck.0 -
And there are plenty of videos of people who eat low carb who are ripped and fit.
Low carb diets for athletes are an entirely different proposition than the <20g/day extremism seen so often on here. When Lebron does "low carb", he's doing 200+ grams/day.0 -
Nope because it doesn't pay off in the long run-- it will eventually trash your heart and arteries.0
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Nope because it doesn't pay off in the long run-- it will eventually trash your heart and arteries.
not necessarily. my mother has trashed her arteries pretty easily with carbs. 2 heart attacks is proof. and she has been on a low-fat diet for almost her whole life.0 -
And there are plenty of videos of people who eat low carb who are ripped and fit.
Low carb diets for athletes are an entirely different proposition than the <20g/day extremism seen so often on here. When Lebron does "low carb", he's doing 200+ grams/day.
yes, this is true.
... but that is not the point that was being made. the point was, a video of a girl downing 50+ bananas does not mean that a keto diet is stupid.0 -
You guys really don't like banana's.
To each their own I guess .. low carb may work for some (and is fine for those with medical issues), but for most people it is just so unnecessary. It is not the nirvana diet answer that it is made out to be. You can lose weight just fine not doing it .. as long as you are in a deficit. That is the real answer here.
Oh .. I eat banana's all the time. :flowerforyou:0 -
. low carb may work for some (and is fine for those with medical issues), but for most people it is just so unnecessary. It is not the nirvana diet answer that it is made out to be. You can lose weight just fine not doing it .. as long as you are in a deficit. That is the real answer here.
i think this is a much more appropriate and ! kind ! answer than the one you gave before. thanks
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Good morning I never really post on her but i am curious about something.... Im in a facebook group and their purpose is helping people maintain a low carb high fat/ protein WOE. The things that they post on there seems very unhealthy. They use pork grinds in everything, load up on heavy cream, they love butter and a host of other things. As long as they dont eat anything over 20g of carbs a day (for some people a lower amount). Is this healthy? Is this a successful way to drop pounds. Wouldn't adding all of that fat to ones diet increase other problems ( heart problems etc)? And they dont eat fruit.... I was always tought that fruit was good? Im not trying to look down on anyones WOE i am just a little confused and wanted to know if this method is effective. Thanks in advance.
Oh thats great... I would kill to loose 20lbs in a month......
I aim for a low carb/high fat and/or protein diet and have done for the past few years. I find myself more alert, energetic and my skin doesn't break out when I stick to it.
When I do eat more than a single serving of refined carb heavy foods such as pasta, bread or baked goods, I get very sleepy, bloated and gassy.
When I eat really sugary food such as sweets and chocolate, I generally break out within 48 hours.
I find it easier to stick to calorie goals eating low carb - I can easily inhale 1/2kg of candy or a packet of cookies but would struggle to eat more than a couple of servings of eggs, bacon or cheese.
I don't eat that much fruit or vegetables but I really love meat, cheese, eggs, coconut oil and cream and feel better eating those for the reasons outlined above.
As for losing 20lb in a month.....whats the rush? :noway: You didn't gain it in a month.
But if you severely restrict your eating for so much for one month that you binge the next - you might!0 -
And there are plenty of videos of people who eat low carb who are ripped and fit.
Low carb diets for athletes are an entirely different proposition than the <20g/day extremism seen so often on here. When Lebron does "low carb", he's doing 200+ grams/day.
He seems to be eating the same 50/30/20 ratio many every day non athlete low carbers use
http://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/nutrition/the-lebron-james-diet-and-how-to-make-it-work-for-you-201408210 -
Nowhere in that article does it suggest Lebron follows that breakdown, nor does it suggest the Lakers did, either. The ratios are from the book the author is peddling, which is an entirely different matter.
The official word from the Lakers is that carb intake is "moderate". Basically, he has them doing South Beach (which is low-GI, not low carb) + pastured for meats/dairy.
Also keep in mind that even at 20%, on 4000 calorie diet you're talking about 200 carb-grams/day.0 -
I walk at work. And I backpack a couple times a year. I'm not inactive, but I don't set time aside to ruin my day at the gym, or even "exercise" at home. Yet. It is in the plan tho. As soon as I convince myself to start, I'll be all good. But honestly, aside from people's normal everyday activities, extra exercise generally isn't REQUIRED to lose weight.That is great that you dont have to rely on blood pressure meds anymore!! I think the fact that the people stated that they lost with minimal exercise and eating this way had me intrigued.
i don't know how anyone could lose without working-out or doing some type of exercise. my husband goes to the gym 5 times a week and he is VERY fit. he has been working-out for 3 years, and didn't start losing the bulk of his weight until he started eating this way.
keep up the good work! :happy:
I'm a keto guy.
I never work out. I'm loosing about 1.8 pounds a week. I hate the gym. It sucks.
do you never do any exercise at all??? you don't have to go to the gym to work-out or get exercise. my point is, i think exercise of some type is a requirement for a healthy lifestyle and weight loss.
Also, I hate that I typed the word "loosing" above. 0 -
Nowhere in that article does it suggest Lebron follows that breakdown, nor does it suggest the Lakers did, either. The ratios are from the book the author is peddling, which is an entirely different matter.
The official word from the Lakers is that carb intake is "moderate". Basically, he has them doing South Beach (which is low-GI, not low carb) + pastured for meats/dairy.
Also keep in mind that even at 20%, on 4000 calorie diet you're talking about 200 carb-grams/day.
What ? Labron and now Kobe and the Lakers ? when will the low carb madness stop ? LOL0 -
I walk at work. And I backpack a couple times a year. I'm not inactive, but I don't set time aside to ruin my day at the gym, or even "exercise" at home. Yet. It is in the plan tho. As soon as I convince myself to start, I'll be all good. But honestly, aside from people's normal everyday activities, extra exercise generally isn't REQUIRED to lose weight.That is great that you dont have to rely on blood pressure meds anymore!! I think the fact that the people stated that they lost with minimal exercise and eating this way had me intrigued.
i don't know how anyone could lose without working-out or doing some type of exercise. my husband goes to the gym 5 times a week and he is VERY fit. he has been working-out for 3 years, and didn't start losing the bulk of his weight until he started eating this way.
keep up the good work! :happy:
I'm a keto guy.
I never work out. I'm loosing about 1.8 pounds a week. I hate the gym. It sucks.
do you never do any exercise at all??? you don't have to go to the gym to work-out or get exercise. my point is, i think exercise of some type is a requirement for a healthy lifestyle and weight loss.
Also, I hate that I typed the word "loosing" above.
i didn't even notice loosing LOL
the problem is this: when i said that i think exercise of some type is required, i really believe that. your normal daily routine sounds like it includes some physical activity. not everyone's does. if my husband didn't go to the gym, he wouldn't get one ounce of exercise. he literally walks to the shower, walks to the car, walks to his desk and that's his day! LOL i think in general, most people do not get enough activity in their days to lose weight without actively seeking out forms of exercise. it's sad really, when you think of our ancestors who would forage for their food, etc. and never needed a gym. but they were killed by wildebeasts, so i guess i would rather join the gym. :laugh:0 -
Would you consider doing something for a year straight is a fad? September 29 will be one year that I have been low carb. It is very sustainable for me and I have lost 110 pounds and have gotten all my health issues under control! At 35 I am healthier than ever!
Also, I have been working out since July.. I lift heavy (for me) and I run.. I don't up my carbs for either. .
This works for ME.. Not saying it does or would for everyone..0 -
Congrats on your LCversary.Would you consider doing something for a year straight is a fad? September 29 will be one year that I have been low carb. It is very sustainable for me and I have lost 110 pounds and have gotten all my health issues under control! At 35 I am healthier than ever!
Also, I have been working out since July.. I lift heavy (for me) and I run.. I don't up my carbs for either. .
This works for ME.. Not saying it does or would for everyone..0 -
100% correct.
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it's sad really, when you think of our ancestors who would forage for their food, etc. and never needed a gym. but they were killed by wildebeasts, so i guess i would rather join the gym.
Yup. Nothing gets one off the couch like a charging wildebeast.
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the thing is avoid carbs in regular meals for eg no carbs in breakfast no carbs in lunch or pre workouts only fats and high protein 30/70 ratios you may add carbs during workouts on leg day this way your insulin sensitivity would decrease making you leaner and meaner get your carbs and amino after your workouts no fat after workouts keep it mod carb and high protein for eg two scoops whey and 4 egg whites 1 digestive 1 cup of cooked brown rice you need carbs after workouts to shuttle those well earned gains to the muscles this way your muscle mass would increase also your fat would burn
for dinner its 20/80 ratio of fats and proteins and unlimited greens and coconut water
do this for 40 days reload carbs every Sunday take them as high as 200g to avoid metabolic meltdown this would keep leptin levels at moderate levels and gherlin levels low you will oxidize more fat to energy.take carbs to 40g and proteins to 150-250g and fats to 50 -90g
sunday keep the fat low for eg 20g protein 100g and carbs 200-300g
i follow this routine before my triathlon season.0 -
I had recently tried this diet, I lost 3 Kgs in a first week (As per the atkins.com, most of that weight was water retention). Next week, I couldn't kept the patience and ate the carbs, that broke the ketosis. It is very strict diet, no matter how determined you are, you will cheat in carbs. And then you will have to wait for a few days to get back in ketosis state.
So, I would recommend if you can live on exactly 20-22 carbs a day till you reach your goal, you are good to try atkins. Otherwise follow a simple calories in and calories out formula which is recommended by everyone.0 -
Would you consider doing something for a year straight is a fad?
Even pet rocks lasted about a year.
So...yes.0 -
Ok.. valid point!! However, when I set my mind to something I do it! Like I said, definitely not for everyone but my results speak for themselves!0
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Did you PLAY with the pet rock for a year?Would you consider doing something for a year straight is a fad?
Even pet rocks lasted about a year.
So...yes.0
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