Wheat belly

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  • SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage
    SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage Posts: 2,668 Member
    the general public has gone overboard, i will admit, but for those who suffer from celiac, those products are very helpful and easier to find now.

    The product I was referring to doesn't exist dear. It was just a joke.
    ROFL....you bad!! :laugh:
  • SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage
    SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage Posts: 2,668 Member
    LOL like wheat?
    I guess I'm not understanding the question. If my GI issues, which I've suffered from for a long time, have been solved by avoiding gluten, why would I over-complicate it? What's that saying....if you hear hoofbeats, it's more likely a horse than a zebra? I guess if I missed gluten-containing items, I might search out another possibility.

    "Over-complicating" it could allow you to eat more foods without getting sick. Assuming you are allergic to something else rather than gluten, you could go back to eating breads and such if you wanted while avoiding your actual allergy.

    As a simplistic example, say I'm allergic to cheese. Whenever I eat sandwiches with cheese, I get sick... but then I incorrectly blame gluten for my allergy. I stop eating sandwiches (and the accompanying cheese) I feel better and confirm my false assumption of a gluten allergy.

    This is a terrible, terrible example. People don't give up eating one type of food when they have allergies, i.e. sandwiches. Gluten is in a LOT of stuff, and it's usually the only common ingredient. Unless someone is allergic/intolerant to lots of things, it's likely gluten is the culprit.

    Also, there's gluten free alternatives, so if people previously ate cheese sandwiches, they could still do so with gf bread, thus confirming they are not intolerant to cheese.

    Also, also: I'm speaking from experience of having a lot of allergies (but not gluten, strangely). Allergies are hellish and miserable. I can't eat nuts or apples. Hell, I can't even eat fruit salad and pick the apple out because the other food is contaminated. But hey, if I don't want my body to violently and painfully reject my breakfast, I'll give the fruit salad a miss.
    Yeah, I'm not really getting his stance on this. He must be an engineer, because they like to take something simple and complicate the crap out of it. I know because I'm married to one :laugh:
  • leomcdee
    leomcdee Posts: 60 Member
    LOL like wheat?
    I guess I'm not understanding the question. If my GI issues, which I've suffered from for a long time, have been solved by avoiding gluten, why would I over-complicate it? What's that saying....if you hear hoofbeats, it's more likely a horse than a zebra? I guess if I missed gluten-containing items, I might search out another possibility.

    "Over-complicating" it could allow you to eat more foods without getting sick. Assuming you are allergic to something else rather than gluten, you could go back to eating breads and such if you wanted while avoiding your actual allergy.

    As a simplistic example, say I'm allergic to cheese. Whenever I eat sandwiches with cheese, I get sick... but then I incorrectly blame gluten for my allergy. I stop eating sandwiches (and the accompanying cheese) I feel better and confirm my false assumption of a gluten allergy.

    This is a terrible, terrible example. People don't give up eating one type of food when they have allergies, i.e. sandwiches. Gluten is in a LOT of stuff, and it's usually the only common ingredient. Unless someone is allergic/intolerant to lots of things, it's likely gluten is the culprit.

    Also, there's gluten free alternatives, so if people previously ate cheese sandwiches, they could still do so with gf bread, thus confirming they are not intolerant to cheese.

    Also, also: I'm speaking from experience of having a lot of allergies (but not gluten, strangely). Allergies are hellish and miserable. I can't eat nuts or apples. Hell, I can't even eat fruit salad and pick the apple out because the other food is contaminated. But hey, if I don't want my body to violently and painfully reject my breakfast, I'll give the fruit salad a miss.
    Yeah, I'm not really getting his stance on this. He must be an engineer, because they like to take something simple and complicate the crap out of it. I know because I'm married to one :laugh:

    Me too! Well, a software engineer, kinda the same thing right? He's also gluten and dairy intolerant. We're a nightmare to have over for dinner.
  • bokaba
    bokaba Posts: 171 Member
    I don't think removing wheat from your diet has any scientifically proven benefits. Sure, some people may feel better and if that is the case, by all means abstain from wheat. The main problem is that wheat is in almost all processed products and makes our wheat intake much higher than it should be. I see nothing wrong with eating below the recommended amount of wheat per day. I have trouble getting enough fiber without eating wheat products.
  • SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage
    SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage Posts: 2,668 Member
    LOL like wheat?
    I guess I'm not understanding the question. If my GI issues, which I've suffered from for a long time, have been solved by avoiding gluten, why would I over-complicate it? What's that saying....if you hear hoofbeats, it's more likely a horse than a zebra? I guess if I missed gluten-containing items, I might search out another possibility.

    "Over-complicating" it could allow you to eat more foods without getting sick. Assuming you are allergic to something else rather than gluten, you could go back to eating breads and such if you wanted while avoiding your actual allergy.

    As a simplistic example, say I'm allergic to cheese. Whenever I eat sandwiches with cheese, I get sick... but then I incorrectly blame gluten for my allergy. I stop eating sandwiches (and the accompanying cheese) I feel better and confirm my false assumption of a gluten allergy.

    This is a terrible, terrible example. People don't give up eating one type of food when they have allergies, i.e. sandwiches. Gluten is in a LOT of stuff, and it's usually the only common ingredient. Unless someone is allergic/intolerant to lots of things, it's likely gluten is the culprit.

    Also, there's gluten free alternatives, so if people previously ate cheese sandwiches, they could still do so with gf bread, thus confirming they are not intolerant to cheese.

    Also, also: I'm speaking from experience of having a lot of allergies (but not gluten, strangely). Allergies are hellish and miserable. I can't eat nuts or apples. Hell, I can't even eat fruit salad and pick the apple out because the other food is contaminated. But hey, if I don't want my body to violently and painfully reject my breakfast, I'll give the fruit salad a miss.
    Yeah, I'm not really getting his stance on this. He must be an engineer, because they like to take something simple and complicate the crap out of it. I know because I'm married to one :laugh:

    Me too! Well, a software engineer, kinda the same thing right? He's also gluten and dairy intolerant. We're a nightmare to have over for dinner.
    ROFL. Same thing. Any type of engineer. I swear "over-complicate the hell out of everything 101" is a University requirement in any engineering program! Sure makes life interesting :smile:
  • chrisleibman
    chrisleibman Posts: 4 Member
    It was very hard at first... I am about nine months in to becoming gluten free and around 95% of the way there. I have to say that my digestion does feel a world better because of it. And that one change put in to motion others including no more fast food because gluten is in all of it, limiting dairy and deciding to only eat fish for meat. The better I do, the better I feel. I now eat a ton of veggies, fruits, legumes, nuts and fish (around 3-4 times a week). A lot of 'minor' health issues improved.

    Some days all I want to do is pound down cheeseburgers and pizza but I don't and as time goes on it gets easier and easier. One thing I did notice though, is that the cleaner my diet is the more I suffer when I do have an occasional cheat which we all do. Seems my digestive system has become less tolerant of junk food and just cant process it any longer.

    I read the book around a year ago and I think many of the claims are a little over the top. I did lose weight at first but it slowly came back as my body adjusted. At the end of the day it really wasn't a weight loss choice - it was a feel better choice.

    One of the hardest parts about going gluten free for me was learning all of the other great alternatives there are out there to a gluten rich diet. I never knew I had so many food choices available to me because I was so focused on the basic, fast food, processed, poor diet so many of us fall in to.

    After nine months I have learned so much and feel good about these choices so I'm back to MFP to control the calories and lose some weight! Best of luck to you!
  • Raclex
    Raclex Posts: 238
    LOL like wheat?
    I guess I'm not understanding the question. If my GI issues, which I've suffered from for a long time, have been solved by avoiding gluten, why would I over-complicate it? What's that saying....if you hear hoofbeats, it's more likely a horse than a zebra? I guess if I missed gluten-containing items, I might search out another possibility.

    "Over-complicating" it could allow you to eat more foods without getting sick. Assuming you are allergic to something else rather than gluten, you could go back to eating breads and such if you wanted while avoiding your actual allergy.

    As a simplistic example, say I'm allergic to cheese. Whenever I eat sandwiches with cheese, I get sick... but then I incorrectly blame gluten for my allergy. I stop eating sandwiches (and the accompanying cheese) I feel better and confirm my false assumption of a gluten allergy.

    This is a terrible, terrible example. People don't give up eating one type of food when they have allergies, i.e. sandwiches. Gluten is in a LOT of stuff, and it's usually the only common ingredient. Unless someone is allergic/intolerant to lots of things, it's likely gluten is the culprit.

    Also, there's gluten free alternatives, so if people previously ate cheese sandwiches, they could still do so with gf bread, thus confirming they are not intolerant to cheese.

    Also, also: I'm speaking from experience of having a lot of allergies (but not gluten, strangely). Allergies are hellish and miserable. I can't eat nuts or apples. Hell, I can't even eat fruit salad and pick the apple out because the other food is contaminated. But hey, if I don't want my body to violently and painfully reject my breakfast, I'll give the fruit salad a miss.
    Yeah, I'm not really getting his stance on this. He must be an engineer, because they like to take something simple and complicate the crap out of it. I know because I'm married to one :laugh:

    Snap! You made me laugh! I work for 4 of them :sad:
  • leomcdee
    leomcdee Posts: 60 Member
    LOL like wheat?
    I guess I'm not understanding the question. If my GI issues, which I've suffered from for a long time, have been solved by avoiding gluten, why would I over-complicate it? What's that saying....if you hear hoofbeats, it's more likely a horse than a zebra? I guess if I missed gluten-containing items, I might search out another possibility.

    "Over-complicating" it could allow you to eat more foods without getting sick. Assuming you are allergic to something else rather than gluten, you could go back to eating breads and such if you wanted while avoiding your actual allergy.

    As a simplistic example, say I'm allergic to cheese. Whenever I eat sandwiches with cheese, I get sick... but then I incorrectly blame gluten for my allergy. I stop eating sandwiches (and the accompanying cheese) I feel better and confirm my false assumption of a gluten allergy.

    This is a terrible, terrible example. People don't give up eating one type of food when they have allergies, i.e. sandwiches. Gluten is in a LOT of stuff, and it's usually the only common ingredient. Unless someone is allergic/intolerant to lots of things, it's likely gluten is the culprit.

    Also, there's gluten free alternatives, so if people previously ate cheese sandwiches, they could still do so with gf bread, thus confirming they are not intolerant to cheese.

    Also, also: I'm speaking from experience of having a lot of allergies (but not gluten, strangely). Allergies are hellish and miserable. I can't eat nuts or apples. Hell, I can't even eat fruit salad and pick the apple out because the other food is contaminated. But hey, if I don't want my body to violently and painfully reject my breakfast, I'll give the fruit salad a miss.
    Yeah, I'm not really getting his stance on this. He must be an engineer, because they like to take something simple and complicate the crap out of it. I know because I'm married to one :laugh:

    Me too! Well, a software engineer, kinda the same thing right? He's also gluten and dairy intolerant. We're a nightmare to have over for dinner.
    ROFL. Same thing. Any type of engineer. I swear "over-complicate the hell out of everything 101" is a University requirement in any engineering program! Sure makes life interesting :smile:

    Haha! So true!
  • tquill
    tquill Posts: 300 Member
    This is a terrible, terrible example. People don't give up eating one type of food when they have allergies, i.e. sandwiches. Gluten is in a LOT of stuff, and it's usually the only common ingredient. Unless someone is allergic/intolerant to lots of things, it's likely gluten is the culprit.

    Also, there's gluten free alternatives, so if people previously ate cheese sandwiches, they could still do so with gf bread, thus confirming they are not intolerant to cheese.

    Also, also: I'm speaking from experience of having a lot of allergies (but not gluten, strangely). Allergies are hellish and miserable. I can't eat nuts or apples. Hell, I can't even eat fruit salad and pick the apple out because the other food is contaminated. But hey, if I don't want my body to violently and painfully reject my breakfast, I'll give the fruit salad a miss.

    Someone didn't understand the question, I gave an admittedly simplistic example. Given the rampant number of misinformed self-diagnoses, I tend to take anyone's personal experiences and anecdotes with a dump truck of salt.

    Non-celiac gluten sensitivity likely doesn't exist:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23648697

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    http://tinyurl.com/k3dl8vq
  • annassong
    annassong Posts: 6
    What..... Gluten is in almost everything you buy prepackaged at a supermarket not just bread. Why over complicate things when what she's doing at the moment has solved it for her?
  • SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage
    SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage Posts: 2,668 Member
    This is a terrible, terrible example. People don't give up eating one type of food when they have allergies, i.e. sandwiches. Gluten is in a LOT of stuff, and it's usually the only common ingredient. Unless someone is allergic/intolerant to lots of things, it's likely gluten is the culprit.

    Also, there's gluten free alternatives, so if people previously ate cheese sandwiches, they could still do so with gf bread, thus confirming they are not intolerant to cheese.

    Also, also: I'm speaking from experience of having a lot of allergies (but not gluten, strangely). Allergies are hellish and miserable. I can't eat nuts or apples. Hell, I can't even eat fruit salad and pick the apple out because the other food is contaminated. But hey, if I don't want my body to violently and painfully reject my breakfast, I'll give the fruit salad a miss.

    Someone didn't understand the question, I gave an admittedly simplistic example. Given the rampant number of misinformed self-diagnoses, I tend to take anyone's personal experiences and anecdotes with a dump truck of salt.

    Non-celiac gluten sensitivity likely doesn't exist:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23648697

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    http://tinyurl.com/k3dl8vq
    I've moved on. But you still haven't answered my question...inquiring minds want to know if you're an Engineer? :happy:
  • tquill
    tquill Posts: 300 Member
    I've moved on. But you still haven't answered my question...inquiring minds want to know if you're an Engineer? :happy:

    Ha, I hadn't seen that yet. Yes I am!
  • justcat206
    justcat206 Posts: 716 Member
    It might be worth testing out. As long as you're not trying to sub in lots of highly processed gluten-free foods for the highly processed gluten-filled foods I don't see how it could do any harm. I've been GF for over a decade (and dairy free for two years - both trigger some nasty symptoms of my autoimmune disorder) and I have a MUCH healthier diet now - mainly because I fill up on fruits, veggies and meats instead of tons of bread and pasta and cheese. I still get plenty of whole grains (rice, quinoa, etc) for fiber and just eat a more balanced plate (usually -I do fall prey to the GF treats now and then). So if you try the diet and feel better, then why not? P.S. Pinterest is a fantastic resource for gluten-free and/or grain-free meal ideas. It's a large part of how I made the switch :)
  • SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage
    SarcasmIsMyLoveLanguage Posts: 2,668 Member
    I've moved on. But you still haven't answered my question...inquiring minds want to know if you're an Engineer? :happy:

    Ha, I hadn't seen that yet. Yes I am!

    BAM!!! I win the internet today :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
    My work here is done.
  • leomcdee
    leomcdee Posts: 60 Member
    This is a terrible, terrible example. People don't give up eating one type of food when they have allergies, i.e. sandwiches. Gluten is in a LOT of stuff, and it's usually the only common ingredient. Unless someone is allergic/intolerant to lots of things, it's likely gluten is the culprit.

    Also, there's gluten free alternatives, so if people previously ate cheese sandwiches, they could still do so with gf bread, thus confirming they are not intolerant to cheese.

    Also, also: I'm speaking from experience of having a lot of allergies (but not gluten, strangely). Allergies are hellish and miserable. I can't eat nuts or apples. Hell, I can't even eat fruit salad and pick the apple out because the other food is contaminated. But hey, if I don't want my body to violently and painfully reject my breakfast, I'll give the fruit salad a miss.

    Someone didn't understand the question, I gave an admittedly simplistic example. Given the rampant number of misinformed self-diagnoses, I tend to take anyone's personal experiences and anecdotes with a dump truck of salt.

    Non-celiac gluten sensitivity likely doesn't exist:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23648697

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    http://tinyurl.com/k3dl8vq

    "Likely". Given the rampant number of studies paid for by non-medical corporations with their own agenda and/or studies performed for the direct purpose of proving something (thus, fewer controls/skewing of results), I tend to take them with a pinch of salt.

    3 studies does not prove anything. I do see why you are skeptical, after all GF has become a gimmick and marketing ploy for many companies but to dismiss people's experiences, especially those who have Doctor backing, is ridiculous.

    ETA: It's not like gluten provides any nutritional benefit that can't be sourced elsewhere. Now, if people were claiming they were allergic to ALL fruits or ALL vegetables, I'd be raising a few eyebrows myself.
  • Raclex
    Raclex Posts: 238
    I've moved on. But you still haven't answered my question...inquiring minds want to know if you're an Engineer? :happy:

    Ha, I hadn't seen that yet. Yes I am!

    Ah man, you're honest tquill! Good on ya :happy:
  • Linzer3
    Linzer3 Posts: 15
    Thanks for your feedback. Wheat belly isn't just gluten free. In fact, it steers you clear of gluten free products because of the reasons you listed. Just trying to get a handle on my health and make a lifestyle change, not necessarily a weight loss quick fix. =) Appreciate the suggestions! :wink:

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