Getting too much protein

Do you lose less weight if you eat too much protein? I'm constantly going over my protein limit on my food diary. I'm not eating anything crazy, just a scoop and a half of protein powder for breakfast, and a soy sausage for lunch.

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  • ksy1969
    ksy1969 Posts: 700 Member
    No. CICO, Calories In Calories Out. That is all that matters.

    Actually, if you are going over on your protein with those two items I don't think you have anything to worry about. In reality you might be low on the amount of protein you should be eating when running at a deficit.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    Did you adjust your macros yourself or are you using what MFP gave you? I set my protein to be the highest of them all. I'm constantly trying to hit my goal and I eat protein with every meal and have a scoop after I lift.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    Calories are what matter for weight loss (assuming you don't have any medical conditions to worry about).

    Macros (protein/fat/carbs) can help with things like health, gym performance, hunger, body composition, etc. You can set those up however you want and MFP's defaults are just one suggestion. In fact, if you're using MFP's default numbers a lot of us would tell you that you should be trying to eat more protein than they suggest every day. They set their protein default a little lower than many would recommend.
  • independant2406
    independant2406 Posts: 447 Member
    I think everyone has a different approach to their balance of carbs, protein etc. I'm more successful when I have more protein. I tend to feel fuller and experience less cravings.

    I have my protein goal set at 130. Some days I don't hit it and other days I'm over that goal. I'm still having good luck losing weight either way. :)
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    It's calories that make the big difference.

    I almost never go over on protein. It does make me fuller for longer, so I guess that without it, I'd eat more and lose less. But I don't think it has much effect, otherwise. :)
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    I try to go over on protein if I can. Some days I fail. You only have to worry about too much protein if you have renal disease (as diagnosed by a doctor).
  • castlerobber
    castlerobber Posts: 528 Member
    No, that small amount of protein isn't enough to hinder weight loss. You could actually use more some days. Try cutting out some of the bread in favor of more protein and healthy fats--you'll get more nutrition and feel full longer.
  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    Too much protein?

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  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
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  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    You can get too much protein.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

    "However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."
  • InForBacon
    InForBacon Posts: 1,508 Member
    You can get too much protein.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

    "However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."
    LOL
  • vmiletti
    vmiletti Posts: 3 Member
    LyndseyLovesT 's comment said it all... lol.

    Too much brotein? That's like too much testosterone for a male bodybuilder... is there ever enough?? :):):)
  • rachelrb85
    rachelrb85 Posts: 579 Member
    You can get too much protein.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

    "However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

    Because Huffinton Post is such a reliable source for scientific information and getting enough protein in your diet doesn't help maintain muscle mass while cutting fat (or increase muscle mass if you're on a bulk) :noway:
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    You can get too much protein.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

    "However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

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  • independant2406
    independant2406 Posts: 447 Member
    There are dozens of scientific studies that show protein is more important than previously thought, and that it decreases appetite and also promotes lean muscle retention. Go to Google or Google Scholar and search: "scientific study high protein diet".

    I've included just a few below.

    From the University of Washington School of Medicine and the Oregon Health and Science University - an article published in the peer reviewed American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/41.short

    Article Title: A high-protein diet induces sustained reductions in appetite, ad libitum caloric intake, and body weight..."
    Quote: "Conclusions: An increase in dietary protein from 15% to 30% of energy at a constant carbohydrate intake produces a sustained decrease in caloric intake and results in significant weight loss."


    From the Department of Human Nutrition, Centre for Advanced Food Studies, Royal University, Copenhagen, Denmark.- an article published in the peer reviewed American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/1.full

    Article Title: The satiating power of protein—a key to obesity prevention?
    Quote: "The acceptable protein distribution was set to 10–35% for adults."


    From the Colorado School of Public Health, University of Colorado Denver - an article published in the peer reviewed American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.
    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/93/4/836.abstract

    Article Title: Trends in carbohydrate, fat, and protein intakes and association with energy intake in normal-weight, overweight, and obese individuals: 1971–2006
    Quote: "Dietary interventions should focus on decreasing energy intake and potentially by substituting protein for fat or carbohydrates."


    Published in the American Journal of Physiology:
    http://ajpregu.physiology.org/content/305/6/R582

    Article Title: High-protein diet selectively reduces fat mass and improves glucose tolerance in Western-type diet-induced obese rats
    Quote" We showed that a high-protein diet for 2 wk reduces body weight in Western-type diet-induced obese rats by selectively reducing fat, while sparing lean mass."
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    You can get too much protein.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

    "However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

    Because Huffinton Post is such a reliable source for scientific information and getting enough protein in your diet doesn't help maintain muscle mass while cutting fat (or increase muscle mass if you're on a bulk) :noway:
    HuffPost quoting Marion Nestle, one of the country's most respected nutrition experts.

    I know MFP forum luvs it's protein but I'm not worrying about getting anymore than what the actual authorities recommend-- around 45-50g/day.
  • afortunatedragon
    afortunatedragon Posts: 329 Member
    THE Nestle???? As in Nestle Company?
    Well ...

    Anywho.
    I wonder how with 1.5 scoops of protein powder and one soy sausage you can be over your protein?
    If this is all protein you eat a day you are max. at 40g -50g per day. This is very low in my view.
    Who are the "actual authorities"?
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    THE Nestle???? As in Nestle Company?
    Well ...

    Anywho.
    I wonder how with 1.5 scoops of protein powder and one soy sausage you can be over your protein?
    If this is all protein you eat a day you are max. at 40g -50g per day. This is very low in my view.
    Who are the "actual authorities"?
    Yes, of course, Nestle the candy company. /sarcasm

    Authorities as in the people in the world whom rational people turn to for dietary advice because they are the most knowledgeable in the field and are supplying unbiased, accurate information based on science.

    As in the Mayo Clinic:
    http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/high-protein-diets/faq-20058207

    Harvard School of Public Health:
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/protein-questions/#howmuch

    Centers for Disease Control:
    http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/protein.html#How much protein

    USDA:
    http://www.choosemyplate.gov/printpages/MyPlateFoodGroups/ProteinFoods/food-groups.protein-foods-amount.pdf

    National Institutes of Health:
    http://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2008/March/docs/01features_01.htm
  • ksy1969
    ksy1969 Posts: 700 Member
    You can get too much protein.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/12/eating-too-much-protein_n_5481307.html

    "However, more isn’t necessarily better. "ecause Americans consume so much protein, and there is plenty in foods from both plant and animal sources, and there is no evidence of protein deficiency in the U.S. population, protein is a non-issue," Marion Nestle, Ph.D, MPH, Paulette Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health at New York University, tells The Huffington Post in an email. "Why make it into one? The only reason for doing so is marketing. Protein used as a marketing tool is about marketing, not health. The advantage for marketing purposes of protein over fat or carbohydrates is that it's a positive message, not negative. Marketers don't have to do anything other than mention protein to make people think it's a health food."

    Because Huffinton Post is such a reliable source for scientific information and getting enough protein in your diet doesn't help maintain muscle mass while cutting fat (or increase muscle mass if you're on a bulk) :noway:
    HuffPost quoting Marion Nestle, one of the country's most respected nutrition experts.

    I know MFP forum luvs it's protein but I'm not worrying about getting anymore than what the actual authorities recommend-- around 45-50g/day.

    MFP doesn't love protein, members of MFP love protein. Why? Well all you have to do is look at what respected nutrition experts are saying.

    I decided to google Protein Intake and every post on the first page recommended higher protein intake than what the RDA is. there were a lot of PhD's quoted. Well I take that back, WebMD didn't. They are towing the line with the RDA from the government. I don't think WebMD is a reliable source on nutrition though.

    Layne Norton, PhD recommends anywhere from 1g/ lb to 1.6g/ lb depending on your goals. See I found an expert with a PhD too that says different than yours.

    Alan Aragaon, M.S. recommends minimum of 1g/ lb of lean body mass.

    These two guys are on the cutting edge of nutrition today.
  • ksy1969
    ksy1969 Posts: 700 Member
    THE Nestle???? As in Nestle Company?
    Well ...

    Anywho.
    I wonder how with 1.5 scoops of protein powder and one soy sausage you can be over your protein?
    If this is all protein you eat a day you are max. at 40g -50g per day. This is very low in my view.
    Who are the "actual authorities"?
    Yes, of course, Nestle the candy company. /sarcasm

    Authorities as in the people in the world whom rational people turn to for dietary advice because they are the most knowledgeable in the field and are supplying unbiased, accurate information based on science.

    As in the Mayo Clinic:
    http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/high-protein-diets/faq-20058207

    Harvard School of Public Health:
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/protein-questions/#howmuch

    Centers for Disease Control:
    http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/protein.html#How much protein

    USDA:
    http://www.choosemyplate.gov/printpages/MyPlateFoodGroups/ProteinFoods/food-groups.protein-foods-amount.pdf

    National Institutes of Health:
    http://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2008/March/docs/01features_01.htm

    There is nothing to those links. They are either towing the governments RDA, which most people know is a joke or they are just some blog article. Even Dr. Hubbard in the National Institute of Health article says there is insufficient data to show if eating large amounts of protein is harmful and the article never really does say how much is enough except that most Americans are probably getting enough.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
    Aragon and Norton are coming from a bodybuilding standpoint, which is great, if that's your standpoint for your own protein intake.

    Most MFPers aren't bodybuilding and would be fine taking the recommendations from the authorities on general health.

    Is your protein intake fine? Of course.

    Does the mere suggestion of 'too much protein' deserve the insulting Britney gif? No.
  • skapo72
    skapo72 Posts: 6 Member
    Where do I go to adjust my protein targets then? It seemed weird that it was going over, but I couldn't find where to adjust that stuff. And how much protein should I aim for? I go to the gym 3 times a week, and I jog and do Karate. Pretty active, but not super active.
    Thanks for all the help, I know it was a dumb question, but the numbers turning red just made it seem like I was overeating it when I wasn't supposed to.
  • Elivingword
    Elivingword Posts: 18 Member
    I too need to know if my weight loss will be hindered if I go over on the protein and sugar and still have 400 calories left to eat. Please reply. Thanks
  • MsHarryWinston
    MsHarryWinston Posts: 1,027 Member
    Wow! I basically have to devour protien all day. Lol my amount is 233g! I have ultimate weight loss/energy balance when I do a combo of calorie counting and IIFMM (If it fits my macros) which are P= 40% C= 35% F= 25%. So much meaaaat!
  • threnjen
    threnjen Posts: 687 Member
    The more protein I eat, the less hungry I am. I think high protein intake is fundamental to successful weight loss, but that's just me.
    I also like to pick up heavy things and put the back down, and you have to have lots of protein for that.

    Everyone is different though.My spouse is apparently some sort of carbivore. I can make him an amazing high-protein meal that fills me up for hours, and half an hour later he is scrounging for snacks. I on the other hand will be hungry within the hour if I stuff myself with pasta.

    I don't eat "clean" or keto or paleo or anything. I just value my protein macro (and calories) above all else.
  • Liftng4Lis
    Liftng4Lis Posts: 15,151 Member
    NO
  • Elivingword
    Elivingword Posts: 18 Member
    Great. Keep up the good work.