Washington Redskins

TheRoadDog
TheRoadDog Posts: 11,788 Member
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/sports/fcc-mulls-banning-redskins-name/ar-BB6C7vq

Just reading the controversey over Washington Redskins and how racist the name is. Found the following excerpt funny.


"The FCC chief said he personally finds the term offensive and urged the team to change the name. But he didn't say whether he thinks it is illegal."

Isn't calling the Head of the FCC Chief racist?
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  • Strange_magic
    Strange_magic Posts: 370 Member
    I think the real controversy is how bad they suck now.
  • lindsyrox
    lindsyrox Posts: 257 Member
    I live in Washington and my high school mascot was the redskins until a couple months ago. Even though the alumni and existing students were against changing the name and there had been NO complaints by the tribes in the area the school board pushed it through and my school is now the Redhawks. Its like a slap in the face to all past students. Just my two cents.
  • MonaLisaLianne
    MonaLisaLianne Posts: 398 Member
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/sports/fcc-mulls-banning-redskins-name/ar-BB6C7vq

    Just reading the controversey over Washington Redskins and how racist the name is. Found the following excerpt funny.


    "The FCC chief said he personally finds the term offensive and urged the team to change the name. But he didn't say whether he thinks it is illegal."

    Isn't calling the Head of the FCC Chief racist?

    Now THAT is funny! :laugh:
  • Kalici
    Kalici Posts: 685 Member
    I live in Washington and my high school mascot was the redskins until a couple months ago. Even though the alumni and existing students were against changing the name and there had been NO complaints by the tribes in the area the school board pushed it through and my school is now the Redhawks. Its like a slap in the face to all past students. Just my two cents.

    How is that a slap in the face?
  • Haltermania
    Haltermania Posts: 288 Member
    Another way for the government to control us and dictate what we can watch or listen. As a Redskins fan, I believe this country has way more important issues to be worrying about then the name of a NFL team. Meanings change over time just like how the "N" word is used nowadays. You can watch shows that say that word but god forbide the Redskins name makes me lose sleep, income, etc. The only people that have a right to complain about this matter is the Native Americans, if they dont see a problem with it which polls have shown they dont then leave it alone. Stop throwing bull**** down peoples throats, 15 years ago this was never a issue until liberal media wants to find ways to make their own mark. Worry about fixing this country, pulling us out of debt, ending the wars, fixing education

    just my 2 cents
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
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  • davemacdonald1
    davemacdonald1 Posts: 199 Member
    They can keep the name, just change the logo.
    How do you feel cheering the Redskins if they had a potato on their helmet. Redskin Russet Potato.
  • Regardless of how I view it, the owner of a franchise has the absolute right to name it whatever he wants. And that goes double when said owner is the tenured owner in the League. The liberal media makes me want to puke!
  • Kalici
    Kalici Posts: 685 Member
    Another way for the government to control us and dictate what we can watch or listen. As a Redskins fan, I believe this country has way more important issues to be worrying about then the name of a NFL team. Meanings change over time just like how the "N" word is used nowadays. You can watch shows that say that word but god forbide the Redskins name makes me lose sleep, income, etc. The only people that have a right to complain about this matter is the Native Americans, if they dont see a problem with it which polls have shown they dont then leave it alone. Stop throwing bull**** down peoples throats, 15 years ago this was never a issue until liberal media wants to find ways to make their own mark. Worry about fixing this country, pulling us out of debt, ending the wars, fixing education

    just my 2 cents

    http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/189afv/the-redskins--name---catching-racism
  • Nachise
    Nachise Posts: 395 Member
    The word Redskin is a terrible legacy for the members of many tribes. For others, not. Frankly, I would be happy not to see ANY Indian mascots.

    Just sayin'...
  • Tiernan1212
    Tiernan1212 Posts: 797 Member
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    Don't you bring my Indians into this!

    Although there have been intermittant rumblings of having to change the name over the years :grumble:
  • Nachise
    Nachise Posts: 395 Member
    The word Redskin is a terrible legacy for the members of many tribes. For others, not. Frankly, I would be happy not to see ANY Indian mascots.

    Just sayin'...
  • parkscs
    parkscs Posts: 1,639 Member
    I can understand the trademark issue but the FCC banning it is a bit much if you ask me. I've never understood how cable television can air so much violence and sexual violence (I seem to recall an episode of L&O:SVU starting with a dead guy, naked, under the dining room table, handcuffed, with a banana up... well, you get the picture), but tasteful nudity and the F bomb are taboo. It's pretty easy to flip through the channels and find a corpse (or a zombie), but now the Redskins are banned? I just don't get it. None of it is particularly offensive to me, but I don't see how people can be fine with some of those things and yet so offended by curse words.
    Worry about fixing this country, pulling us out of debt, ending the wars, fixing education

    That would require hard work and sacrifice. Not happening any time soon.
  • headofphat
    headofphat Posts: 1,597 Member
    Pretty much everything everyone says or does these days is offensive. Good luck!

    Thank God our Constitution doesn't give someone the right to not be offended.
  • shutch2112
    shutch2112 Posts: 236 Member
    The word Redskin is a terrible legacy for the members of many tribes. For others, not. Frankly, I would be happy not to see ANY Indian mascots.

    Just sayin'...

    Wouldn't that be nice...?
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
    while we're on the subject of things indian related, I think honoring bastages such as the Oklahoma Sooners is offensive...
  • lazydanthaman
    lazydanthaman Posts: 182 Member
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    I love South Park... That is all
  • Fitnin6280
    Fitnin6280 Posts: 618 Member
    Pretty much everything everyone says or does these days is offensive. Good luck!

    Thank God our Constitution doesn't give someone the right to not be offended.

    Yep!
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    Team names like Warriors, Chiefs, Braves, et cetera, celebrate the nobility of the Native Americans. The name Redskins was derogatory from its inception, no different from calling a Mexican person a wetback, or a Jewish person a kike. Imagine if a team tried to call itself one of those names?
  • chriscolh
    chriscolh Posts: 127 Member
    I can't help but think that if the Native Americans aren't offended, we really shouldn't be. I live in Utah, and the University of Utah's mascot is the "Running Ute." (Just fyi, the Ute tribe was the native American tribe living here when this area was settled, and is the root of the name of our state.) The university does outreach programs to the Ute tribe and is in full communication with them regarding their mascot. The tribe is not only accepting of the university having the Ute as a mascot, but some have said that it is an honor because the mascot is brave, strong, and fast. I think that as long as the name/logo is treated with respect, there shouldn't be a problem. I realize there may be connotations with the name that are derogatory that maybe I don't understand, which is why those who are native American or of that heritage need to be the ones who make the call.
    That being said, I am really getting sick of people who truly have no connection to certain matters telling me to be offended by things where I don't believe any offense was ever intended. But that's just my two cents...
  • headofphat
    headofphat Posts: 1,597 Member
    while we're on the subject of things indian related, I think honoring bastages such as the Oklahoma Sooners is offensive...

    I agree. Also, we should stop exploiting animals. Total ban on all teams named after a bird, mammal, animal or insect. In addition, extreme weather conditions cause heartache and pain to many people. To name something after an extreme weather condition would be offensive. Total ban on the use of cyclones, hurricane, tornado, wave(this includes Crimson Tide), etc.

    Go Dawgs! (I just offended a bulldog. I will have my lawyer issue a statement.)
  • jfbisbee
    jfbisbee Posts: 21 Member
    Darn it! Just change the name to Foreskins and eliminate this controversy.
  • headofphat
    headofphat Posts: 1,597 Member
    Team names like Warriors, Chiefs, Braves, et cetera, celebrate the nobility of the Native Americans. The name Redskins was derogatory from its inception, no different from calling a Mexican person a wetback, or a Jewish person a kike. Imagine if a team tried to call itself one of those names?

    I'm not sure what your sources are but here is some interesting reading for you.
    http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2013/12/18/redskins_the_debate_over_the_washington_football_team_s_name_incorrectly.html
  • SuperVixen2B
    SuperVixen2B Posts: 218 Member
    The word Redskin is a terrible legacy for the members of many tribes. For others, not. Frankly, I would be happy not to see ANY Indian mascots.

    Just sayin'...

    I second this. It wouldn't be appropriate for almost any other race that's been subjugated or discriminated against. Can you imagine the "African American's" football team, with their faces on the side of a helmet and fans putting on black face and singing "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" during halftime? Goodness gracious. That it is seen as "ok" for native people to be used as a mascot...well...I just think it says a lot about people's perception of Natives.

    And don't you ever tell me you're "honoring" me by wearing a headdress, carrying a tomahawk and doing your best "war cry" while you get drunk and scream profanities at a bunch of overpaid athletes. Screw you.

    Also heard a story of a young girl in high school. Her football team was playing their rival, "The Indians". At their pep rally, they made an effigy of the mascot, feathers, war paint, braids...and burned him while dancing around the bonfire whooping and mimicking the dancing from those old westerns depicting the savage. Tell me how that's good for a young girl to see? Tell me how that's honoring a people.

    Also, if your weekend recreational activity and the "history" of it is more important to you then the feelings of a race of people...again, screw you.

    But I mean that in the loveliest way, with light and beauty, etc. etc.

    Also, Nachise, beautiful regalia.
  • headofphat
    headofphat Posts: 1,597 Member
    The word Redskin is a terrible legacy for the members of many tribes. For others, not. Frankly, I would be happy not to see ANY Indian mascots.

    Just sayin'...

    I second this. It wouldn't be appropriate for almost any other race that's been subjugated or discriminated against. Can you imagine the "African American's" football team, with their faces on the side of a helmet and fans putting on black face and singing "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" during halftime? Goodness gracious. That it is seen as "ok" for native people to be used as a mascot...well...I just think it says a lot about people's perception of Natives.

    And don't you ever tell me you're "honoring" me by wearing a headdress, carrying a tomahawk and doing your best "war cry" while you get drunk and scream profanities at a bunch of overpaid athletes. Screw you.

    Also heard a story of a young girl in high school. Her football team was playing their rival, "The Indians". At their pep rally, they made an effigy of the mascot, feathers, war paint, braids...and burned him while dancing around the bonfire whooping and mimicking the dancing from those old westerns depicting the savage. Tell me how that's good for a young girl to see? Tell me how that's honoring a people.

    Also, if your weekend recreational activity and the "history" of it is more important to you then the feelings of a race of people...again, screw you.

    But I mean that in the loveliest way, with light and beauty, etc. etc.

    Also, Nachise, beautiful regalia.


    Food for thought.

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/
  • headofphat
    headofphat Posts: 1,597 Member

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/how-many-native-americans-think-redskins-is-a-slur/

    To be honest I'm not for or against it. I couldn't care less. I do however think a majority of the controversy is being sensationalized by the media.
  • rchoate55
    rchoate55 Posts: 2 Member
    The name is offensive. I wouldn't want my name be called after Washington, D.C. with all the idiot leaders we have there. I'm fine with them keeping the Redskins.

    Politicians are only getting into this controversy hoping their constituents forget the real issues affecting this country and the crappy job they are doing.