Is diet drinks

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Okay too drink when on a healthier life change/diet.

Reason i ask is im addicted too it diet coke/coke zero/pepsi max. Mainly coke zero. Was just wondering if its bad for me too drink this whilst trying too loose weight and what others thought?

Also is drinking blackcurrent in water just as bad as drinking coke? Or is it just as good as drinking water? (if this all makes sense too someone woo hoo if not im sorry lol)

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  • rubytuesdaynz
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    Nothing is as good as drinking water - I was drinking a lot of Coke Zero and just decided to stop and I think that has helped my weight loss so far - watch the syrup drinks that you dilute becuase they might still contain a lot of sugar - I've just gone with green tea and water. Do I miss Coke Zero - YES - but I like the wieght I'm losing more.......good luck :-)
  • daffysbird
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    I drink a lot of fizzy drinks and squash and whilst they don't seem to be very high in calories (if any calories at all!) I tend to find water fills me up more and stops the need for snacking.

    Don't know if this helps
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
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    I think in moderation its fine
  • sjdoman
    sjdoman Posts: 81 Member
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    Do a Google search on aspertame side effects. Aspertame is also in yogurt and gum. I would drink a fully loaded sugary soda before I would touch a diet one because aspertame is so bad.
  • PNOD
    PNOD Posts: 35
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    I never drink them. You should avoid fake sugars all you can. They are just chemicals. Even Splenda. In fact Splenda might be one of the worst

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20050613/drink-more-diet-soda-gain-more-weight
  • hols_blue
    hols_blue Posts: 26 Member
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    I drink them all the time. I find they take away the edge of hunger between meals. Although probably not very healthy.
  • WifeMomDVM
    WifeMomDVM Posts: 1,025 Member
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    This is from a series of articles called nutrition 911. I know this is alot of info, but it is worth a good read if you like to drink any kind of soda! Hope this helps you! :flowerforyou:

    Nutrition 911, Part VIII: Pop Goes the Diet—The Worst Food in the World
    By Steve Edwards
    Since all great things come in threes (or is it celebrity deaths?), we're going to complete our sugar trilogy with a look at the worst food in the world: soda pop. Forget about brands; whether it's Coke, Dr. Pepper, or even Hansen's Natural, it's all junk. There are different degrees of "junkiness," but this is Nutrition 911, so we're sticking with the bird's-eye perspective. The taste might make you happy, but from a nutritional point of view, soda's only place in the world is to make people fat, sick, and unhappy.



    Alarming statistics

    In America, we drink a lot of cola (or "un-cola"). A lot. On average, we each drank 52.4 gallons in 2005, and this figure includes infants, healthy folks, prisoners, etc., meaning that the average soda drinker actually gulps (their word) more than this. Carbonated soft drinks are the biggest single caloric source in the American diet. Teenagers in particular are hooked on the stuff and get an average of 13 percent of their daily calories from "pop." If this doesn't scare you, it should. In terms of sheer amount, these statistics could be alarming if it were any one food. A proper diet should have some balance and diversity. And soda pop is the antithesis of "any food." It's bad food.

    "Empty calories"

    We use the term "empty calories" for foods like soda that have no place in a nutritious diet. This term is ridiculously misleading. The calories in soda are far from empty. Most of them come from sugar. In the U.S., it's nearly always high fructose corn syrup, the cheapest, most processed sugar on the market. Other ingredients include caffeine, various phosphates and acids, and artificial colorings. We'll get to their effects on the human body in a minute, but first, let's stick to the simple stuff. Per day, the average teenager consumes between 10 and 15 teaspoons of refined sugar via soda—which, according to government standards, is about their daily requirement for all foods. This means that for the average teenager, his or her soda consumption virtually eliminates his or her chances of eating a balanced diet. There's nothing empty about that.

    Weird science

    The soda companies are a marketing juggernaut. They spend roughly $700 million a year on media advertising alone—not to mention hundreds of millions more sponsoring events, athletes, musicians, and such. This volume of cash makes it difficult for consumers to avoid them, by design. To avoid the temptation to drink Coke, you've got to be highly principled or living in the middle of the jungle. And even then, well, I once happened upon a soda vending machine halfway up Mount Yarigatake in the Japanese Alps, and a friend traveling in Guatemala found Coke in a rural area that didn't have running water. Let's just say that soda companies are going to continue making it easy for you to find the stuff.

    This type of marketing machine won't go away quietly. With the stats listed above, you could certainly put two and two together and link soda companies to the childhood (and adult) obesity epidemic that is arguably the world's most serious health crisis. Yet, while researching this article, I came across a widely published "study" stating that "soft drink consumption has no effect on childhood obesity." Suspicious from the get-go (the word "no" being a huge red flag), it didn't take me long to find this statement: "The research paper was supported by an unrestricted gift from the American Beverage Association." Bingo. Remember those Phillip Morris tobacco "studies" that promised a long and healthy life from chain smoking?

    What makes it so bad?

    Besides the simple caloric trade-off, sodas are formulated to give you a rush. The sugar is mixed with phosphates designed to speed it into your system. It's so good, in fact, that many cyclists prefer Coca-Cola to specific sports food when they need a sugar rush near the end of races. And while a sugar rush is a good thing when you're trying to exceed your anaerobic threshold and you're out of blood glycogen (never mind if you don't know what this is), it's a bad thing whenever you're not, which even for a competitive cyclist is 99.9 percent of the time.

    Beyond the simple sugar rush, these acids and phosphates alter your body's pH levels and inhibit the absorption of other nutrients. Then there are the effects of certain artificial coloring agents. For example, yellow #5, commonly used in soft drinks, has been linked to attention deficit disorder, hives, asthma, and other allergic reactions in some children.

    Then there is the nutrient trade-off to consider. A person who drinks one Big Gulp per day must go to great lengths to maintain a balanced diet. Otherwise, they will almost certainly be deficient in numerous vitamins, minerals, dietary fiber, and essential fatty or amino acids—none of which is found in soda. For this reason, soda is often linked to type 2 diabetes, osteoporosis, dental erosion, and a higher risk of kidney stones and heart disease. And that's just a start. There's plenty of less scientific data linking soda to poor scholastic habits, which we'll get to in a later class.

    Diet sodas and juices

    In an attempt to become thought of as healthier, soda companies have diversified into non-carbonated beverages and diet sodas. While these are an improvement in some ways, they are hardly a solution to the problem.

    First off, most juices and other caloric non-soda alternatives are mainly just sugar and water without the carbonation. A quick label comparison between a commercial orange juice and a Mountain Dew would show a similar "bottom line" with regards to calories and sugar. The only improvement would be the lack of the non-caloric offenders.

    But that's no small matter, as the true effects of these ingredients have not been thoroughly studied. Despite their no-calorie status, diet sodas have been linked to assorted illnesses. Recent studies have backed up my more anecdotal evidence that I've yet to have a client not lose weight by kicking diet soda. Granted, all of my clients drank an excessive amount, but regardless, there is little doubt that the pH balance of diet sodas hinders the body's ability to absorb nutrients, and that just may be the tip of the non-caloric iceberg.

    A large-scale study in 2007 showed that men and women who had more than one diet soda a day were 31 percent more likely to be obese and 25 percent more likely to have both high triglycerides and blood sugar, and they had a 50 percent greater risk of developing metabolic syndrome. Never mind if you don't know what metabolic syndrome is. Just trust me when I tell you that you don't want it.

    How can you help?

    In my world, soft drinks would come with the same type of regulatory language as cigarettes and booze, at least. Actually, in my world, we'd all be educated and wouldn't require this language at all, but that's Politics 911, not Nutrition 911. Anyway, here are five ways you can help educate the public about the dangers of soda, according to the Center for Science in the Public Interest. Contact your local government officials and/or the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and suggest that:

    National and local governments should require chain restaurants to declare the calorie content of soft drinks and all other items on menus and menu boards.
    The FDA should require labels on non-diet soft drinks to state that frequent consumption of those drinks promotes obesity, diabetes, tooth decay, osteoporosis, and other health problems.
    Local, state, and federal governments should provide water fountains in schools, government buildings, parks, and other public spaces.
    School systems and other organizations catering to children should stop selling soft drinks (as well as candy and other junk foods) in hallways, shops, and cafeterias.
    State and local governments should consider levying small taxes on soft drinks, with the revenues earmarked for promoting health and fitness. A national 2-cent tax on a can of soda pop would raise $3 billion annually.
  • HealthyishWithMaggieG
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    Do a Google search on aspertame side effects. Aspertame is also in yogurt and gum. I would drink a fully loaded sugary soda before I would touch a diet one because aspertame is so bad.

    Totally agree!!!
  • mksgirl83
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    They are not very good for you, no fake sugar is but having them once in awhile it not going to kill you... and the reason some say they make you feel fuller is b/c of the caffeine, caffeine makes you "think" you're full. I am a big time "diet" soda drinker, but since I started dieting I limit myself to 1 or 2 a week... except this week I was bad and was out of town, so I may of had more then I should of ...
  • JeepBaja
    JeepBaja Posts: 1,824 Member
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    I drink a lot of Diet Mt. Dew and Dr. Pepper... it keeps me away from the real Coke/Pepsi drinks. Both are bad and diet drinks are worse I know..

    I wonder though, I remember studies on McDonald's french fries on lab rats... in order to have any real issue the lab rat had to have like 10000% of what you would normally have. So are diet drinks like that? One a week or even a day will it really harm you all that much?
  • sarah44254
    sarah44254 Posts: 3,078 Member
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    Do a Google search on aspertame side effects. Aspertame is also in yogurt and gum. I would drink a fully loaded sugary soda before I would touch a diet one because aspertame is so bad.

    Totally agree!!!

    I cannot stress how much I believe in the bad effects of Aspartame and Saccharine. Give me a Pepsi, but make it regular. Please!
  • Serafimangel
    Serafimangel Posts: 174 Member
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    I have this problem too, its a kind of too good to be true thing, 0 calories but feels like a treat. I have been advised numerous times to just drop it altogether, not only because of the masses of chemical side effects (which is really enough to put ou off) but for some reason, when I drink diet coke etc it makes me want to eat, i went off sugar but i think the diet drinks prevented me from going cold turkey and in the end i was still craving sweet stuff. it was only when i quit the fizzy drinks that i no longer craved sugar.

    also good, when i feel like cheating, the worst I go is a diet coke, so its rare, and bad for me, but compared to half a litre of ben and jerrys...
  • maserati185
    maserati185 Posts: 263 Member
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    If it's your one evil while trying to lose weight, I say, keep it. We can't be perfect. However, yes, it is really bad for you. Maybe once you conquer your current goals, you can try finding drink alternatives. Believe it or not, there IS a diet drink alternative that is presently considered healthier. It's called ZEVIA. It's a soda sweetened by Stevia, a plant sweetener. The FDA also just approved it as a sweetener to be sold in your general grocery store under the name "Truvia". I use that in my teas now. When I was eating high sugars and first tasted the ZEVIA root beer, it had bit of a bitter taste. But as my eating habits became improved, it actually was a perfect alternative for me. They sell ZEVIA in root beer, orange soda, lime soda, cola and maybe one other. I buy it at my Whole Foods store.