HRM calorie burn differences

HurricaneShaunna
HurricaneShaunna Posts: 61 Member
edited September 2024 in Fitness and Exercise
I have a Polar F4 and a Polar RS200, and I wore them both to spinning this morning with one on each wrist (and the RS200 strap). Throughout the workout the heart rate values were almost exactly the same every time I checked.

After the workout, they both said I had worked out for 45 minutes, with an average heart rate of 160 and a max of 175. BUT the F4 said I burned 504 calories, while the RS200 said I burned 651!!!

Both watches were set for my age, weight, height, and sex. The only difference is that the RS200 allows you to put in your fitness level, which I listed as high. I replaced the batteries in both watches about 2 months ago.

I cannot figure out why there was such a big calorie difference! I am using the lower value for my exercise log, but I'm curious if anyone has any explanation. 150 calories over 45 minutes is a lot for having the same HR numbers.

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  • EmilyJ1979
    EmilyJ1979 Posts: 144 Member
    wow, that's a huge difference
  • BigBoneSista
    BigBoneSista Posts: 2,389 Member
    Good question. I was going to say maybe the F4 may have lost signal since you used the strap that belong to the other watch but you would have had to set it again.

    Gosh I don't know. :indifferent:
  • taso42_DELETED
    taso42_DELETED Posts: 3,394 Member
    bumping so i can refer back to the answers later.

    i wonder what Polar would have to say about this. it's kind of disheartening, considering how much trust many of us put into our HRM's.
  • kvns83
    kvns83 Posts: 29
    Maybe it is where you were wearing it. I know with my hrm i'm suppose to wear it on my left arm. It does make a difference because it's closer to the heart, just like when you get your blood pressure taken, left arm for the most accurate read. Which one did you wear on your left arm?

    Maybe the next time you do the class you can switch the hrm to the opposite arm and see if it does it again. Otherwise maybe the one that records your fitness level also is the most accurate.
  • DON'T KNOW FOR SURE BUT IF ONE UPDATES MORE OFFTEN THAN EVEN A A FEW MIN COULD CHANGE THINGS
  • jane77
    jane77 Posts: 489
    Ok just to confuse things more. I jogged today with my polar FT4 and my Timex Ironman zone train and my run keeper app. I also put my numbers into a few web sites. yes both HRM are set up right and for me Yes the Timex is way wrong in their formula and I have know that since the first time I put it on. ANd no I don't jogg fast, slow and steady. I use to run 5 days a week had some foot problems, now I go once a week on my rest day from P90X, which by the way has really helped my feet and made me a stronger jogger. BLAH BLAH BLAH anyway here's the info
    Polar 1:29:22 Time Calories 741 Average HR 154 Max 185 In Zone 1:08:09

    Timex 1:29:35 Time Calories 1373 Average HR 153 Max 176 In Zone 1:02:00

    Run Keeper gives me this 6.30 miles 13:38 min miles 809 cal

    WWW.triathlontraning gives me 922 cal info they wanted age 47, weight 155, Gender F , Average HR, Duration.V02 I Use 35

    MFP could only put 5mph Its really 4.25 coldn't fine a way to do that 834 calories burned

    Health Status web site (say best calcultor) only asked for age and duration 731 cal

    Run the Plant web sites two ways to calculate Weight and distance 638 calories Speed and miles per hour 876 Calories

    So what does it all mean? I dont know and either does anyone else! But my general thought we cant get to caught up in the numbers
    because the power that be are still trying to figure them out. (side note my timex zone trainer I have always know to 1/2 my calorie numbers but there may be people out there that dont and Timex should be ashamhed)
    I wear both straps.
  • MsP90X
    MsP90X Posts: 1,053 Member
    This is an interesting topic because my hubby has the Polar FT80 and I have the FT7 and we work out together... he is in better shape than me and although we have nearly the same Max HR and Avg HR he will burn, on average, almost 200 more calories per workout?????!!!! I thought that the better shape you are in the harder it was to get that kind of calorie burn... and there I am sweating up a storm to get 200 calories less....

    I hope someone can enlighten us....
  • taso42_DELETED
    taso42_DELETED Posts: 3,394 Member
    One other thing I thought of - I believe my polar watch (A5) has a fitness test mode. Not entirely sure, but I think I've heard it mentioned that the fitness test is a way of calibrating the watch to yourself. So perhaps it might be worth doing the fitness test on both and then doing the experiment again.
  • HurricaneShaunna
    HurricaneShaunna Posts: 61 Member
    I had the F4 watch on the left arm, RS200 watch on the right arm.

    I've noticed the past couple of weeks that the RS200 always seemed a little high to me, which is why I wore them together this morning.

    I don't think either one had issues with losing the signal, but I wasn't watching them all the time, just cehcking every couple of minutes to see where my HR was at.

    Could it be that the F4 is not encoded to the strap and the RS200 was?

    I may ask Polar. I was a sponsored athlete for them several years ago, which is how I ended up with 2 HRMs (the RS200 was free with the sponsorship)
  • taso42_DELETED
    taso42_DELETED Posts: 3,394 Member
    I may ask Polar. I was a sponsored athlete for them several years ago, which is how I ended up with 2 HRMs (the RS200 was free with the sponsorship)

    Please follow up with us if you do end up talking to them. The data-obsessed would like to know the answer!
  • HurricaneShaunna
    HurricaneShaunna Posts: 61 Member
    One other thing I thought of - I believe my polar watch (A5) has a fitness test mode. Not entirely sure, but I think I've heard it mentioned that the fitness test is a way of calibrating the watch to yourself. So perhaps it might be worth doing the fitness test on both and then doing the experiment again.

    Interesting idea. I did the fitness test when I first got the RS200 and I was in better shape then so it could be calibrated to a fitter me, then just adjusted to the heavier weight. I'll do the fitness test again and repeat and let you know!
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,458 Member
    Read this from a very savvy MFP member:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/the-real-facts-about-hrms-and-calories-what-you-need-to-know-before-purchasing-an-hrm-or-using-one-21472

    He actually has a lot of info about HRMs....in posts and blog form.
  • Dobsaya
    Dobsaya Posts: 235
    I have a bodymedia and a heart rate monitor. My heart rate monitor has me burning 515 calories in 45 minutes of zumba while the bodymedia has me burning about 350. Would love for the heart rate monitor to be correct but since I have been using the bodymedia data, I have been losing and not just maintaining.
  • Dobsaya
    Dobsaya Posts: 235
    Great info. Thanks for the post. I can feel good about trusting my bodymedia over the hrm.
  • HurricaneShaunna
    HurricaneShaunna Posts: 61 Member
    Read this from a very savvy MFP member:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/the-real-facts-about-hrms-and-calories-what-you-need-to-know-before-purchasing-an-hrm-or-using-one-21472

    He actually has a lot of info about HRMs....in posts and blog form.

    Very helpful, thanks! The RS200 does have V02 input/calculation and the F4 doesn't, so that might be it.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,342 Member
    I see it was said in the article. A HRM calorie calculations are just that, calculations of the relation of HR to calories burned. That means the numbers are, gasp, an estimate. It takes much more than a HRM to accurately measure calories burned, that is why when you see studies done in a lab on calorie expenditure they have all that stuff attached to the people working out. It is an ok estimate, and some are more accurate than others, but it like all the stuff including stuff like bodymedia and the like are estimates.
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