Hidden dangers of fruit! Seriously read this....

Absolutely right! People are very jaded thinking that there is some sort of difference in fructose and refined sugar, its all stored as the same kind of sugar, bottom line.

Yes, the majority of people listen to the USDA, FDA and the corn counsil too much.

So... can we please have a show of hands from all those people who became morbidly obese from snacking on too many apples??? :huh:

lol so true!!

Maybe because the whole grains are "complete" not this enriched flour crap where they remove the good stuff and replace it with chemicals so the companies with subsidies can move their product.

Ever wonder why corn is in darn near every PROCESSED product?

I'll keep eating my fruit, avoiding refined products where I can. It's still a work in progress but choosing a fruit over my former choices IS healthier than what I used to be doing.

Corn and soy seem to be heavily subsidized, at least looking at the local farms around me for what they are growing, if there were money in the wheat, oats etc they'd be growing them but corn or soy are just so much more lucrative, it's almost all you see growing on any large farm.

one quick correction to your article. monosaccharides rarely exist in nature, and usually require a refinement process. the primary sugar in most fruits is sucrose, a disaccharide composed of fructose and glucose. almost every plant contains sucrose on some level. white table sugar is also sucrose extracted from sugar cane, or sorghum, or beats, believe it or not, but mostly sugar cane. it could jut as easily, and via the same process be extracted for apples, or oranges. if you are trying to watch your sugar, cutting back on fruity is a good idea.

all that being said your average serving of fruit contains less than half a serving of pure sucrose so two to three servings per day is not unreasonable.

Did anyone else notice it mentioned 'three 8oz glasses of orange juice'? Now THAT is a lot of fruit sugar! It would take a lot of oranges to make that much juice. Warning off fruit JUICE would make more sense, if the rest of the article is correct.

hey man don't nock the juice. some days its the only way reach my goal.

everything in moderation!

I've never cared for this mantra. Arsenic in moderation will eventually kill you. Smoking in moderation can lead to cancer.

That being said, I still think that fruit is a better alternative to a chocolate bar because you're not just getting sugar, but also other vitamins and minerals that would have to be artificially added to a candy bar. Maybe in an ideal world, fruit would be considered a 'treat' but reality says that we should probably steer them away from heavily indulging in the cakes, candies, and other high colorie, low nutrient foods first.

you'd be surprised how much arsenic one consumes in a lifetime.

chocolate contains a lot of valuable vitamins and minerals as well, a couple of bites ever now and then is good for you.

I think the important part in the article is this sentence:

"If your goal is to exclusively to minimize bodyfat, then it is advisable that you consume more complex carbohydrates, which will go to replenishing muscle glycogen stores rather than fruit, which will only replenish liver glycogen stores, and is useless in muscle glycogen replenishment."

with emphasis on the part about your goals being EXCLUSIVELY minimising body fat or centered around that.

If you are on a short term "cutting" diet (12 weeks or less in my view) where one of your principal or only goals is to strip BF% then by all means cut out fruit and / or fruit juice fully.

However, if you are at the point of maintaining a healthy lifestyle and/ or dieting for more than a couple of months then the benefits of eating fruit outweighs the downside significantly for MOST people (although not all.) What that article fails to address are the benefits that fructose has in bringing liver glocogen back up to normal levels as well as the drawbacks.

If you are living with calorie restriction and exercising hard then you are probably in a liver glyocgen depleted state a lot of the time. Refuelling this store sends a "full" signal to the brain making over eating less likely. In addition, the fibre in fruit also promotes feelings of being full making over eating less likely. Let's also not forget the nutrients and vitamins found in fruit as well.

Finally I think that most people, even if they are on this type of diet or not, should key a close eye on their fruit JUICE intake (as opposed to fruit in its natural and solid state) as it is high in calories and sugar.

In short, the advice in the OP is useful for a small minority of people but not the majority.

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