what did we do 20 years ago
I was following the thread about Cell Phones. There are some very valid reasons to always have the thing with you. One fellow cited a child with health issues. Another woman mentioned a hubby that drives truck.
I get it, but what did we do 20 years ago.
Younger folks on here may not even remember a time that technology didn't rule the day. Today people are slaves to technology and it's more as if a cell phone is a right not a privilege. My own children don't remember ever not having a computer at their disposal for everything from homework to car parts.
I also think the advancements in technology, although great for information have helped create our nation of obesity. Kids flock to their computer after school instead of seeking out "real" friends to go play ball or whatever.
What's your take on this?
I get it, but what did we do 20 years ago.
Younger folks on here may not even remember a time that technology didn't rule the day. Today people are slaves to technology and it's more as if a cell phone is a right not a privilege. My own children don't remember ever not having a computer at their disposal for everything from homework to car parts.
I also think the advancements in technology, although great for information have helped create our nation of obesity. Kids flock to their computer after school instead of seeking out "real" friends to go play ball or whatever.
What's your take on this?
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Well 20 years ago there was pay phones on almost every corner.0
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Well 20 years ago there was pay phones on almost every corner.0
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I concur! I'm only 30 and I can remember going outside to play after school. Actually reading THE BOOK for a report. I had my own phone... a land line in my room! Cell phones weren't the norm and if you did have one you could only make a phone call from it! No texting, no surfing the web, no checking emails or even playing games!
I think society relies a little too much on technology. They freak out if the power goes out!
Buuuuut... it does make life a whole lot easier too!!!0 -
I was following the thread about Cell Phones. There are some very valid reasons to always have the thing with you. One fellow cited a child with health issues. Another woman mentioned a hubby that drives truck.
I get it, but what did we do 20 years ago.
Younger folks on here may not even remember a time that technology didn't rule the day. Today people are slaves to technology and it's more as if a cell phone is a right not a privilege. My own children don't remember ever not having a computer at their disposal for everything from homework to car parts.
I also think the advancements in technology, although great for information have helped create our nation of obesity. Kids flock to their computer after school instead of seeking out "real" friends to go play ball or whatever.
What's your take on this?
you took the words right out of my mouth.
one if my biggest pet peevs is watching people in restaurants.. 6 young college students sitting at a table together.. 5 of them all busy texting or playing games on their cell phones.
something unutterably sad about that to me.0 -
My hubby and I tell our teeanage and preteen sons that we didn't have texting or iPods or Xbox when we grew up and they wanted to know how we talked to people... we told them we knocked on the door and asked if they wanted to play!!! Or we called on the phone.. that was attached to the wall!!!!
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I totally agree. We rode bikes all over the place. And played volleyball and anyother sport that would keep us out of the house. I have my 18yr old daughter doing what I do, because she doesn't play sports and she is overweight. But she has been doing the walking and getting rid of some of that weight. She has been told by many people that she looks good and that encourages her more. I am so glad I found this site because it is saving my life and my daughters together.0
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Went to a payphone? sent letters? It is good now that we can call anyone anywhere from anywhere specially during emergencies, but I really hate being available 24/7 on my phone...that's why my cel phone is off at night... if a family or a dear friend has an emergency, they have the home phone number.... during the day I barely pick up my cel unless is my mom or my husband... if it's someone else and it is important they would leave a message and I'll return the call....
My kids are allowed 1 hr max on the computer...the rest of the time (in the afternoon) they are either outside playing or with friends inside the house but NOT on the computer... I was afraid they would loose contact with the real world!
Technology as definitely help a lot but haven't you notice that now that we are more "connected through technology" we are more disconnected of the real world? Take a look at this video...
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My kids live like we did 20 years ago. They play outside, they ride their bikes. We have one computer, one TV. We eat dinner together every night, we have game night. We don't own a microwave. I have a cell, but that's because hubby won't get a land line.
I try to keep it real. Technology is AWESOME but it should be an aide in life, not something you depend on. Once my kids are self sufficient then they can get all teched out.0 -
I can remember when I was a kid being outside all the time. My grand kids only want to play those blasted video games all day long. I also think that is way there is so many people that are obese today. Place all of the fast food. We didn't have all of this when I was a kid. Your mom actually cooked meals every day most of the time. There was not much of this eating out.
Now don't misunderstand me, I love the fact that I can go to my computer and find out answers to my questions in a manner of minutes or if I have car trouble somewhere out on a back road that is not traveled often that I'm not left stranded for hours on end but there has to be a health balance. Kinda like the food we eat. Balanced.0 -
We had a strict phones off policy at dinner and family times. 2 of 3 of my kids were 3 sport jocks and the other did at least 1 and marching band. we started when they were young with gymnastics, dance etc... all three are still pretty health conscious.I was following the thread about Cell Phones. There are some very valid reasons to always have the thing with you. One fellow cited a child with health issues. Another woman mentioned a hubby that drives truck.
I get it, but what did we do 20 years ago.
Younger folks on here may not even remember a time that technology didn't rule the day. Today people are slaves to technology and it's more as if a cell phone is a right not a privilege. My own children don't remember ever not having a computer at their disposal for everything from homework to car parts.
I also think the advancements in technology, although great for information have helped create our nation of obesity. Kids flock to their computer after school instead of seeking out "real" friends to go play ball or whatever.
What's your take on this?
you took the words right out of my mouth.
one if my biggest pet peevs is watching people in restaurants.. 6 young college students sitting at a table together.. 5 of them all busy texting or playing games on their cell phones.
something unutterably sad about that to me.0 -
Very cool. parenting unfortunately has been replaced in many respects by the ability to immediately contact. it's not the same.My kids live like we did 20 years ago. They play outside, they ride their bikes. We have one computer, one TV. We eat dinner together every night, we have game night. We don't own a microwave. I have a cell, but that's because hubby won't get a land line.
I try to keep it real. Technology is AWESOME but it should be an aide in life, not something you depend on. Once my kids are self sufficient then they can get all teched out.0 -
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you took the words right out of my mouth.
one if my biggest pet peevs is watching people in restaurants.. 6 young college students sitting at a table together.. 5 of them all busy texting or playing games on their cell phones.
something unutterably sad about that to me.
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I hate that! Once my sister went to a party with some friends.... in the middle of the party she called me because she was bored...all her friends were chatting on the phone with someone else.
I have a very strict rule in my house that while on the table (home or at a restaurant) no texting/BB/Nintendo DS, Ipod etc. Yes, it would be a lot easier if they were glued to the DS and not thinking about running around a restaurant after finished eating, but kids need to know how to behave at a restaurant, or need to understand family time is family time.0 -
Very cool. parenting unfortunately has been replaced in many respects by the ability to immediately contact. it's not the same.My kids live like we did 20 years ago. They play outside, they ride their bikes. We have one computer, one TV. We eat dinner together every night, we have game night. We don't own a microwave. I have a cell, but that's because hubby won't get a land line.
I try to keep it real. Technology is AWESOME but it should be an aide in life, not something you depend on. Once my kids are self sufficient then they can get all teched out.
I agree. Although my middle schooler has a phone to contact us during the day (BECAUSE there are NO payphones or any other way to call us) she cannot use it after 6pm (dinnertime) and leaves it at home when we all go out together (why does she need it if we're all together?) I am trying to teach her and my little one that you don't have to be available 24/7. It's ok for people to leave a message. It's ok to not answer a call/text/etc. I'm on the computer when they are out playing, after I finish my chores. LOL
My daughter can't even have a Facebook or Myspace. She doesn't complain either. We have just never made it important.0 -
I have a very strict rule in my house that while on the table (home or at a restaurant) no texting/BB/Nintendo DS, Ipod etc. Yes, it would be a lot easier if they were glued to the DS and not thinking about running around a restaurant after finished eating, but kids need to know how to behave at a restaurant, or need to understand family time is family time.
I have left friends at restaurants because they couldn't turn off their freakin phone while with me. I didn't drive 45 miles to sit alone. I can do that at home in my jammies LOL
I have no problem excusing myself and leaving. They don't pull that crap a 2nd time.0 -
Last time my mom visited, she needed to find some local business and so she inquired as to where I keep my phone book. I just had to laugh :laugh:0
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Last time my mom visited, she needed to find some local business and thus she inquired as to where I keep my phone book. I just had to laugh :laugh:
Ours is on our bookshelf! And yes, we use it .LOL0 -
I remember 20 yrs. kids was outside playing all kinds of games, or we would go to the basketball courts to shoot some basketball. Then we would play some softball in various leagues.
Now when I go to a park, I don't see as many kids playing, don't even see many kids outside now. Most are in the house playing video games.
We now live in a world where technology has taken over and kids today are far more dependent on it now. So in the future these kids will be grown up and far more dependent on technology. That is why we have a large population of kids that is obese compare to 20 or 30 yrs. ago.
Technology can be awesome, but used the wrong way very deadly.0 -
I have a very strict rule in my house that while on the table (home or at a restaurant) no texting/BB/Nintendo DS, Ipod etc. Yes, it would be a lot easier if they were glued to the DS and not thinking about running around a restaurant after finished eating, but kids need to know how to behave at a restaurant, or need to understand family time is family time.
I have left friends at restaurants because they couldn't turn off their freakin phone while with me. I didn't drive 45 miles to sit alone. I can do that at home in my jammies LOL
I have no problem excusing myself and leaving. They don't pull that crap a 2nd time.
My rule actually started when my husband got his first blackberry.....We were at a restaurant the 2 of us (plus his phone
... after a while I told him to take me home because I didn't like eating at restaurants by myself. He has never done it again. 0 -
Last time my mom visited, she needed to find some local business and thus she inquired as to where I keep my phone book. I just had to laugh :laugh:
Ours is on our bookshelf! And yes, we use it .LOL
Whats a "bookshelf"? jkjk 0 -
You laugh but one time my oldest was in the car with me (he's 27 now) h was about 15 then. The Eagles "Hotel California" came on. He commented that he liked the song. I said that I had the album at home. he then asked what an album was. He had never seen a black vinyl record album. I had long since replaced all my music with CD's at that time and even those are becoming dinosaurs now.Last time my mom visited, she needed to find some local business and thus she inquired as to where I keep my phone book. I just had to laugh :laugh:
Ours is on our bookshelf! And yes, we use it .LOL
Whats a "bookshelf"? jkjk0 -
Kids these days are raised to not think. Parents hover over them and tell them when to eat, what to do, how to do something, why to do it, etc. They stand over their children at the park and repeat "be careful" 1000000 times. Poor Johnny can't learn his own limitations because Mommy and Daddy keep telling him what they are.
These children cannot reason, think, problem solve or do anything that doesn't require an adult's approval.
When I was a kid, we'd build stuff. Sometimes the tree house worked. Sometimes it didn't. When it didn't, we fell. It hurt...but we knew what to do better the next time.
I do not hover over my children or my students. If their first try doesn't work, they better try it again or it won't get done (I do not step in and help). Kids these days have no sense of self pride. They expect things INSTANTLY instead of working hard for them. If they can't do it right the first time, they don't want to do it at all.
There are many battles in my home (my 11 year old) and my classroom (5th grade) where the kids want "help". They don't want help, they want me to do it and I refuse. Tears, pleads, and sad faces cannot break me. Frustration is good. Disappointment is good. Through both of those things, determination is born. Nowadays, kids don't get to experience those feelings because everyone is so concerned about "hurting their self esteem". Screw that. Teach kids to buck up and work hard for what they want. I'm not here to boost anyone's self esteem....and the real world certainly doesn't give a crap about it.
I am said to be a hard teacher....and yet, my students come back to visit all the time to talk or get 'the straight stuff' as some say.
I'm worried for our future...I think parents need to stop worrying about their child's feelings and worry more about raising a productive, self-loving, empathetic and passionate adult.0 -
AMENKids these days are raised to not think. Parents hover over them and tell them when to eat, what to do, how to do something, why to do it, etc. They stand over their children at the park and repeat "be careful" 1000000 times. Poor Johnny can't learn his own limitations because Mommy and Daddy keep telling him what they are.
These children cannot reason, think, problem solve or do anything that doesn't require an adult's approval.
When I was a kid, we'd build stuff. Sometimes the tree house worked. Sometimes it didn't. When it didn't, we fell. It hurt...but we knew what to do better the next time.
I do not hover over my children or my students. If their first try doesn't work, they better try it again or it won't get done (I do not step in and help). Kids these days have no sense of self pride. They expect things INSTANTLY instead of working hard for them. If they can't do it right the first time, they don't want to do it at all.
There are many battles in my home (my 11 year old) and my classroom (5th grade) where the kids want "help". They don't want help, they want me to do it and I refuse. Tears, pleads, and sad faces cannot break me. Frustration is good. Disappointment is good. Through both of those things, determination is born. Nowadays, kids don't get to experience those feelings because everyone is so concerned about "hurting their self esteem". Screw that. Teach kids to buck up and work hard for what they want. I'm not here to boost anyone's self esteem....and the real world certainly doesn't give a crap about it.
I am said to be a hard teacher....and yet, my students come back to visit all the time to talk or get 'the straight stuff' as some say.
I'm worried for our future...I think parents need to stop worrying about their child's feelings and worry more about raising a productive, self-loving, empathetic and passionate adult.0 -
I have a friend that only lets his son play (7yo) non-score T-ball because he doesn't want him to "be a loser". My kids learned to take an *kitten* whippin' on the court or field or soccer field without dad or mom protecting their feelings. All thre excelled in their sports and activities and were team leaders. with failure comes wisdom. It's not how many times you fall it's how many times you pick yourself back up.0
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Yea. Many kids these days are soft. We forget that while they are children NOW, they will be real adults in a few years. Raise them to work hard and keep getting back up.
I can't stand all the "feel good" crap these days. Really? That prepares them for the real world how? So my boss will care if my feelings are hurt when I don't do my job and she reprimands me? Heh. Right. Buck up.0 -
Tch! What a bunch of Luddites! 20 years ago the world was full of fat, unhealthy, rude, anti social people and people who generally didn't give a monkeys, much as it is today.
If one mixes the usage of modern technology with a "back in the day..." attitude there can be some interesting personal and social consequences.
20 years ago we had answering machines and pagers. a pager could go off mid meal and if a person was so inclined the could stop a conversation to read that all important page. They might then use a restaurant phone to dial up their answering machine and use a mobile tone generating pad to listen to the important message.
30 years ago we had the SInclair/Timex ZX81 computer with monochrome tennis games gluing kids to the sofa. 20 years ago in the explosion of computer games, the Atari was king and Donkey Kong and Super Mario fuelling the addiction. I worked in an amusment arcade around that time, kids who didn't have their own games spent hours on arcade games like Defender, or were spellbound by the original Tron game, released with the original movie.
Relationships have changed. Getting into them is easier, with a "Hi, hun...." on a web site/forum, and getting out of them can be very public. I have watched one of my daughters BF/GF relationships unravel real time on Facebook with BF changing status from "in a relationship" to "it's complicated" and watching the "OMG!" comments and polarisation of "M8s".
I don't think that any of this is intrisically good or bad. It is how we react to the change and support eachother and our children that counts.0 -
20 years ago (well let's do a bit more...24) I was riding a bike around the neighborhood on my own, only one phone in the house, TV had knobs and an antenna, etc. I enjoyed riding my bike around every day, which combined with my dancing i'm sure helped to keep me in shape.
I would walk from the dance studio a block to get a juice between classes, which was great exercise, too.
HOWEVER, on that walk, a man tried to kidnap me. It was the last time I tried that walk.
And about 6 months after we moved out of that really nice neighborhood we lived in, we drove by our old house to see bullet holes on the glass that would've been my bedroom window. Our neighbor's son was also gunned down while riding a bike around the area.
So now, I dont let my daughter ride her bike around other than in the driveway, and I sure as heck don't let her even go the 50 feet by herself to check the mailbox like I used to.
Living in Buffalo, the air isn't great so when we finally have good weather, the smog alert kicks in. So yes, being inside stinks and leads to obesity, etc yada yada yada...but the alternatives in today's society for most of us aren't so great either. Took kids to the park to find beer cans and needles so that was out as an option. And that's when the parks are actually open.
So we play games at home, computer use isnt allowed yet for her, she dances with me/runs around with her brother. We try to keep them moving as much as possible :-)0 -
Funny we just talked about that at work.
When I was a kid we were always playing outside. We were on our bikes, on rollerskates, climbing trees etc. As long as we were home for dinner time and parents had a vague idea where we were there was little “adult supervision”. There wasn’t this parental paranoia and “stranger danger” that we have now. I think it’s ridiculous that 8-year olds are strutting around with their own mobile phones!!!!
There is an interesting series in the UK called “Child of our Times”. It’s effectively a longitudinal social study of children who were all born on 1.1.2000. They are followed up on an annual basis in terms of their physical, social, psychological, educational development and come from various social circles. I think it was in 2009 when they looked at child’s play and measured how much time these children spend in front of a “screen” or other, and how much was spent in “unstructured play” (i.e. not going to a club for some structured activity). It was a real shocker just how much time these kids spent online, playing computer games or watching TV!!! No wonder they are so unfit. Part of the problem was the parents not allowing the kids outside on their own. They were asked a question, who let their child walk to the corner shop to buy some milk for example, and hardly any of them did. This false sense of “protecting children” is actually putting them at huge risks in other ways, but seems that people can’t see that.0 -
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one if my biggest pet peevs is watching people in restaurants.. 6 young college students sitting at a table together.. 5 of them all busy texting or playing games on their cell phones.
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You see families doing this!!!
I was at an airport recently and there they all were... dad on a mini laptop, mum on her Blackberry, and the kids on Nintendos and nobody talking to each other!!!!0 -
I have a very strict rule in my house that while on the table (home or at a restaurant) no texting/BB/Nintendo DS, Ipod etc. Yes, it would be a lot easier if they were glued to the DS and not thinking about running around a restaurant after finished eating, but kids need to know how to behave at a restaurant, or need to understand family time is family time.
I have left friends at restaurants because they couldn't turn off their freakin phone while with me. I didn't drive 45 miles to sit alone. I can do that at home in my jammies LOL
I have no problem excusing myself and leaving. They don't pull that crap a 2nd time.
Fantastic! I wish I had the nerve to do that!
I have a mobile phone but almost never have it with me, and it's so old it's just about steam powered! About the only times I do carry it are at music festivals in case my DH & I get split up and while hiking in case of an emergency.0 -
one if my biggest pet peevs is watching people in restaurants.. 6 young college students sitting at a table together.. 5 of them all busy texting or playing games on their cell phones.
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You see families doing this!!!
I was at an airport recently and there they all were... dad on a mini laptop, mum on her Blackberry, and the kids on Nintendos and nobody talking to each other!!!!
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They might have been talking to each other using, MSN
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