Help needed on low carb diet and eating exercise calories.

If you don't want to eat that amount don't eat that amount.
I personally go by Net Carbs so my fiber intake factors in there as well.
I never look at MFP goals, I go by what I want to go by.
60 (or so)NET Carbs.

Low carb diets are not necessary at all. At most, all they will do is make you feel weak and tired when it's for you to exercise. People on carb restricting diets have a way higher chance of gaining all their weight back also. Just learn to stay in calorie range and eat healthy, and you'll be fine.

Low carb diets are not necessary at all. At most, all they will do is make you feel weak and tired when it's for you to exercise. People on carb restricting diets have a way higher chance of gaining all their weight back also. Just learn to stay in calorie range and eat healthy, and you'll be fine.

I love my way of life and I have more energy sometimes then I know what to do with!

Some people do fine on low carbs, but most will gain the weight back when they return to regular ratios of food. Some people will remain on low carbs for life, which is hard on your kidneys and cardiovascular system, but does control weight and seems to work for body builders. If you plan on making a lifestyle change rather than a diet, don't count on cutting carbs as a solution. MFP's ratios are a healthy mix of the food types the human body needs to remain healthy for the long-term. If anything, a 5% boost in protein, taken from carbs, may be needed for those who are building muscle through weight/resistance training.

Some people do fine on low carbs, but most will gain the weight back when they return to regular ratios of food. Some people will remain on low carbs for life, which is hard on your kidneys and cardiovascular system, but does control weight and seems to work for body builders. If you plan on making a lifestyle change rather than a diet, don't count on cutting carbs as a solution. MFP's ratios are a healthy mix of the food types the human body needs to remain healthy for the long-term. If anything, a 5% boost in protein, taken from carbs, may be needed for those who are building muscle through weight/resistance training.

Some people souldn't give advice, there is NO evidence that a low card diet is hard on healthy kidneys,,,, NONE. As for gaining back weight,,, duh, so do people that go on a low fat diet, and return to eating the way they did before. And besides if you would educate yourself, you would know that no "low carb" diet advises you to stay under 50 for life. The ultra low carb portion is for initial weight loss, then you add back "healthy" carbs.

I just started low carbing yesterday..so I don't have any advice but wanted to show my support. I want to lose about 25 more lbs and I feel like I have hit a plateau so I was hoping the low carbs would get me back on track!

Some people do fine on low carbs, but most will gain the weight back when they return to regular ratios of food. Some people will remain on low carbs for life, which is hard on your kidneys and cardiovascular system, but does control weight and seems to work for body builders. If you plan on making a lifestyle change rather than a diet, don't count on cutting carbs as a solution. MFP's ratios are a healthy mix of the food types the human body needs to remain healthy for the long-term. If anything, a 5% boost in protein, taken from carbs, may be needed for those who are building muscle through weight/resistance training.

Some people souldn't give advice, there is NO evidence that a low card diet is hard on healthy kidneys,,,, NONE. As for gaining back weight,,, duh, so do people that go on a low fat diet, and return to eating the way they did before. And besides if you would educate yourself, you would know that no "low carb" diet advises you to stay under 50 for life. The ultra low carb portion is for initial weight loss, then you add back "healthy" carbs.

I beg to differ. The medical journals have had several articles on the damage ketones do to the kidneys, and the entire point of low carb is to go into ketosis. 75 gms of carbs is still low-carb, and is still not a lifestyle many people are willing to live with long-term. As a nurse-practitioner, I have cared for people who have lost gobs of weight on low carb diets, but they began to regain as soon as they began eating carbs again, even when their overall calories were not out of range. My point is, low carbs (anything below about 55% of calories) is not a life-long weight-management plan, and in my opinion as a healthcare provider, should not be done unless under the supervision of a weight-specialist. If you want to change your life to maintain weight loss long-term, low-carb is NOT the answer.

Again you need to stop reading the BS put out by those intrenched in the grain is good myth

Here if you have time read this. http://www.marksdailyapple.com/protein-kidneys/#more-19990

"The AHA recommendations are at best incorrect and at worst deliberately misleading, "

"...Another review, this time focusing strictly on whether or not protein intake can precipitate kidney disease in healthy people, is even better. I mean, that’s the important thing, isn’t it? If we want to exonerate or condemn protein, we must study its effects on healthy kidneys. We have to see if it creates problems rather than potentially worsens them. And, according to the exhaustive analysis of Martin et al, there exists no evidence that protein intake negatively influences renal health in otherwise healthy, active individuals."

"...You know what’s even better? High-protein diets, when compared to the high-carb diet commonly recommended, improve glucose tolerance and blood sugar control in type 2 diabetics without changing kidney function. And, since type 2 diabetes often leads to CKD and is characterized partly by poor glucose tolerance and blood sugar control, you might even say that eating more protein is actually protective against renal failure."

I will we post this part because I want everyone to read it.

"...without changing kidney function."

"...and the sum of the actual evidence points to protein as being protective against heart disease, osteoporosis, kidney disease, and liver problems – all things protein is supposed to initiate or worsen."

This part is very true. When my husband had surgery on his hand the doctor put him on a high protein and moderate fat, low carb eating plan so that he would heal faster. And he did. Also, his scar is barely noticeable.

BUMP FOR LATER:flowerforyou:

No point arguing with these people. People who follow these diets seem like reborn religious converts to me. It does not matter what you say their mind is made up, and they are fervent in trying to convert you, and defend their choice of faith/diet. Often they claim that there is a government/industry/Monsanto conspiracy out there that has brainwashed all of us, and that they have found a leader/diet that has lead them out of this wilderness. It seems to me that these diets start with a tiny fact, or some random observation, and then they build this pyramid of illogical reasoning on that, ignoring any solid studies and evidence. They reject these studies claiming some government/industry/Monsanto conspiracy.

Thank you! I have yet to see an elderly person on a high protein diet that isn't bound up tight as a drum and having chest pain regularly. Yes people are put on high protein to heal from surgery, and as I said high protein works for body builders, but the human GI tract is not suited to meat, meat, meat, and our planet can't tolerate it either! Our need for grains is not a myth, it is an evolutionary necessity. If you had said our need for dairy is a myth, I would agree, because dairy is just a convenient mechanism for gaining calcium, and not really something our bodies have need of otherwise, as proved by the huge numbers of people in the world who are lactose intolerant. But the need for grains, the B vitamins they contain, the fiber, and the healthy fats in some of them, is not a myth. Those who are true converts go right ahead and eat the diet you espouse, but don't push your "facts" on others. When we have real, long-term data on the effects of low-carb eating, I promise it will not be the rosy picture of health some make it out to be. Cats are carnivores, people are not

If you think that a low carb plan is nothing but meat, meat and meat - then you are very wrong from the beginning. I am an avid low carber and have been off and on for years (listening to others than myself) and I have always eaten many, many vegetables and some fruits.

Also, grains are not a necessity for us humans. There are no vitamins or minerals that I can not obtain from eating proteins, fats, vegetables, fruits, nuts and seeds.

Grains are very processed and not good for the gut. Grains are as essential to our well being as dairy is - not that essential. Again, we can get all the nutrients our body needs from fruits, veggies, nuts, seeds and quality proteins.

B vitamins are fortified into grains, there is very little B vitamin content naturally in grains. We get more B vitamins from protein sources than we do grain products. That is why vegans and vegetarians are most likely to be vitamin B deficient and need additional supplementation.

The rate at which we humans are getting diseases and syndromes such as Fibromyalgia, arthritis, chrone's, celiac disease and many others is because we humans are not meant to eat grains. We haven't evolved as much as everyone would like to think we have. Grains, especially wheat, barley and rye are among the highest of being the most inflammatory to our bodies. Now oats is not even 100% gluten free due to cross contamination from gluten grain contamination.

Some people do fine on low carbs, but most will gain the weight back when they return to regular ratios of food. Some people will remain on low carbs for life, which is hard on your kidneys and cardiovascular system, but does control weight and seems to work for body builders. If you plan on making a lifestyle change rather than a diet, don't count on cutting carbs as a solution. MFP's ratios are a healthy mix of the food types the human body needs to remain healthy for the long-term. If anything, a 5% boost in protein, taken from carbs, may be needed for those who are building muscle through weight/resistance training.

Some people souldn't give advice, there is NO evidence that a low card diet is hard on healthy kidneys,,,, NONE. As for gaining back weight,,, duh, so do people that go on a low fat diet, and return to eating the way they did before. And besides if you would educate yourself, you would know that no "low carb" diet advises you to stay under 50 for life. The ultra low carb portion is for initial weight loss, then you add back "healthy" carbs.

I beg to differ. The medical journals have had several articles on the damage ketones do to the kidneys, and the entire point of low carb is to go into ketosis. 75 gms of carbs is still low-carb, and is still not a lifestyle many people are willing to live with long-term. As a nurse-practitioner, I have cared for people who have lost gobs of weight on low carb diets, but they began to regain as soon as they began eating carbs again, even when their overall calories were not out of range. My point is, low carbs (anything below about 55% of calories) is not a life-long weight-management plan, and in my opinion as a healthcare provider, should not be done unless under the supervision of a weight-specialist. If you want to change your life to maintain weight loss long-term, low-carb is NOT the answer.

No point arguing with these people. People who follow these diets seem like reborn religious converts to me. It does not matter what you say their mind is made up, and they are fervent in trying to convert you, and defend their choice of faith/diet. Often they claim that there is a government/industry/Monsanto conspiracy out there that has brainwashed all of us, and that they have found a leader/diet that has lead them out of this wilderness. It seems to me that these diets start with a tiny fact, or some random observation, and then they build this pyramid of illogical reasoning on that, ignoring any solid studies and evidence. They reject these studies claiming some government/industry/Monsanto conspiracy.

Simple question for you, what diet plan do you follow?

Some people do fine on low carbs, but most will gain the weight back when they return to regular ratios of food. Some people will remain on low carbs for life, which is hard on your kidneys and cardiovascular system, but does control weight and seems to work for body builders. If you plan on making a lifestyle change rather than a diet, don't count on cutting carbs as a solution. MFP's ratios are a healthy mix of the food types the human body needs to remain healthy for the long-term. If anything, a 5% boost in protein, taken from carbs, may be needed for those who are building muscle through weight/resistance training.

Some people souldn't give advice, there is NO evidence that a low card diet is hard on healthy kidneys,,,, NONE. As for gaining back weight,,, duh, so do people that go on a low fat diet, and return to eating the way they did before. And besides if you would educate yourself, you would know that no "low carb" diet advises you to stay under 50 for life. The ultra low carb portion is for initial weight loss, then you add back "healthy" carbs.

I beg to differ. The medical journals have had several articles on the damage ketones do to the kidneys, and the entire point of low carb is to go into ketosis. 75 gms of carbs is still low-carb, and is still not a lifestyle many people are willing to live with long-term. As a nurse-practitioner, I have cared for people who have lost gobs of weight on low carb diets, but they began to regain as soon as they began eating carbs again, even when their overall calories were not out of range. My point is, low carbs (anything below about 55% of calories) is not a life-long weight-management plan, and in my opinion as a healthcare provider, should not be done unless under the supervision of a weight-specialist. If you want to change your life to maintain weight loss long-term, low-carb is NOT the answer.

No point arguing with these people. People who follow these diets seem like reborn religious converts to me. It does not matter what you say their mind is made up, and they are fervent in trying to convert you, and defend their choice of faith/diet. Often they claim that there is a government/industry/Monsanto conspiracy out there that has brainwashed all of us, and that they have found a leader/diet that has lead them out of this wilderness. It seems to me that these diets start with a tiny fact, or some random observation, and then they build this pyramid of illogical reasoning on that, ignoring any solid studies and evidence. They reject these studies claiming some government/industry/Monsanto conspiracy.

Simple question for you, what diet plan do you follow?

Easy answer. No diet at all. Calories in and calories out, that’s all that matters for losing weight. Eat less, and/or exercise more, do that and you will lose weight.

Healthy nutrition is a different story, and yes, I do pay attention to what I eat for other reasons, like cholesterol, prediabetes, cancer risk, etc. I have two kids; my spouse has a one hour commute each way, so I take care of the kids shuffling them around and dinner, leave the house by 7-8 get back by 5-6 and I do have to work in between. So, no time for calories out, i.e. exercise, except for the weekend.

So, I eat less. All the same foods, but less, count your calories, no magic involved with this. The only thing that I changed is eat more fish, beans and tofu, less pork and beef. But that’s because my cholesterol is too high. And more whole grains and I added some fiber supplements, I noticed that fiber is hard to get above 30 g/day, if you are on a diet and eat less, especially carbs and nuts. And yes, counting calories, I found out that my main problem before was too much potatoes, bread, rice, and peanuts, so I scaled carbs down, but it is still 50% of my calories from carbs. I never ate much desert, drink soft drinks, candy etc. before, so that never was an issue. As many Americans, I added 1-2 pounds per year over 25 years, and then gradually it becomes an issue. So count your calories, see where your problem is and scale that back.

I did use to skip breakfast, and ate too much lunch because of this, so I did add breakfast, fat free yogurt, fruit and some muesli. Doing this, and eating less, I went from a BMI of 28 to 23 in 5 months, aiming for 20 in another 5 months. But this low range of normal is based on my prediabetes, and looking at studies, bringing your BMI to the low range of normal lowers the risk for developing diabetes a lot. This BMI should not be the goal for most people reading this.

So bottom line, calories in and calories out, that’s all that matters for your BMI, and your weight. I eat the same as before, just less of each serving.

But that’s my story. I don’t have a sweet tooth, which makes it a bit easier, works keeps me busy, and I don’t have time for a lot of exercise. Everyone has to figure out, or find help that guide them figure out how they can do it, eat less or exercise more.

But the bottom line is there is no magical item that will solve this for you. Not coconut oil, not a paleo, HCG, Atkins, or any other diet. Yes, eat healthy for a lot of reasons, but if you want to lose weight, calories in, and calories out, that’s it. And yes, it is hard, either eating less and/or exercising more, but bringing your BMI down to a healthy range does more to your health than anything else If you trust evidence based science.

And the only reason I post to this threat to this question, is because many people seem to get confused, and some people have this conviction, and try to convince other people, that if you change just one magical thing, like no carbs, HCG, Atkins, all your weight problems will magically get solved with no effort. Well dream on, the bad news is none of these work long term and losing weight is very easy, eat less, exercise more. But also very hard at the same time, yes the peanuts are still calling out to me every night. But if you want to have a long healthy life, getting your BMI in a healthy range is the best thing that you can do. And for those of you doing weird diets, if it works for you, great, but please stop peddling this on other people. In my mind that’s not working for most of us, and I stick to my basic point, calories in versus calories out, that’s all that matters for your weight, BMI, and ultimately your health.