If someone stays under in calories.. but eats bad..
Arynamber
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do you cheer them on or say something? I actually look at all the logs before I comment. Yes, I know everyone has bad days.. I know I DO. lol.. but if you see someone always eating fast food, hamburger helper, chips and ice cream.. yet stay under calories, then what?.. I have pretty much just been leaving it alone.. but then I begin to wonder, do they really think they are eating healthy? They could so soooo much better! Should I suggest something like "way to go on calories but you could of done with out the candybar?" lol that just sounds *****y. I know I want to be held accountable so I hope my friends would give me tough love. What are you thoughts?
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and they wiped out the word I C K Y. funny0
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I think it depends on what type of info they are looking for from you.
If they want support about calorie intake and if they are below then they are doing it right.
Is it the HEALTHIEST way, nope. But calories are calories regardless of where they come from. Recently I read about a guy who only ate twinkies to prove this point and he still lost weight lol Amazing, since that would never happen to me
anyways, if someone isn't asking me for my opinion about it, I wouldn't tell them.0 -
I'd wait until they have any kinds of questions or problems with the weight loss itself. Then bring up the quality of the food they're eating as a possible source of trouble.0
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My best friend does this. Mc donalds for breakfast, whopper wednesdays, pizza. He stays under, but I couldnt take it anymore. Friends for 20 years, I had to take him off my list. I dont have the will power to look at that all the time. LOL.
BTW, calorie intake aside, who cares how skinny you are if you die by the age of 40 from a heart attack??0 -
Before I comment on someone's diary I look at it....if I see it is nothing but junk I will not compliment them on them being under their goal. If I see SOME crap in their diary I do not worry about it (look at mine...I have a little something 'bad' every day) but if they are eating fast food and junk on a regular basis (which I don't have any friends who do) I would call them out on it. But...then again that is who I am.0
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I would love to see my mom lose significant weight so being under eating crap but her sticking with it is most important right now...maybe in the future if her health concerns have not been eliminated by decreased weight alone I would comment on nutrtrition...I think it depends on where the person is in this journey and what their goals are...also if they seem to be working on misinformation etc...I am dying to clue a lady I know in that her calories burned estimations are WRONG but she won't listen so I leave it be.0
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Great question.
I opt to not say anything - not a good job, nor a comment. I *don't* consider a day under cals but loaded with sugar, refined foods, and lacking in nutrients a "good job." This also goes for the people that eat 1 meal all day, skip breakfast, dont' exercise, etc. But those are just my opinions, so I opt to do what my mother taught me: If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.
An exception to that is when people ask for feedback. Or perhaps post that they don't know why they aren't losing weight when they are under their suggested calories. In that case, I will add a thought or 2.
For me, it's about a true lifestyle modification... eating healthfully more often than not... but I don't want to impose my views on others.
So that was a long way of saying - I don't say anything. :-)0 -
It really depends on the person. I try to always be encouraging and uplifting. Losing weight and eating healthy is very hard for most of us. Unless someone really wants me to critique their day i just lift them up. I think most ppl are very hard on themselves without someone adding to it (that wasn't asked to).0
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I agree. They'll know the basics about good food, no one is so stupid as to think eating junk all day is good even if it is within the day's cals allowance.0
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I WISH someone would tell me! It's not all the time, but when I do indulge in a cupcake (for my child's birthday!) or pizza out one night, I'd rather see a "Be careful with that sodium!" than a "GREAT JOB!" Personally though, I'm only looking at people's diary's if they are asking for help with them, or if I know the person in real life and KNOW they want 'that' kind of help I will point out things they could be doing differently to help them start losing again. If they aren't asking and you don't know them, you MIGHT be asking for trouble even though you are VERY well meaning, y'know?
Feel free to friend me, I WANT that kind of help!0 -
Before I comment on someone's diary I look at it....if I see it is nothing but junk I will not compliment them on them being under their goal. If I see SOME crap in their diary I do not worry about it (look at mine...I have a little something 'bad' every day) but if they are eating fast food and junk on a regular basis (which I don't have any friends who do) I would call them out on it. But...then again that is who I am.
Me too!0 -
I think it depends on what type of info they are looking for from you.
If they want support about calorie intake and if they are below then they are doing it right.
Is it the HEALTHIEST way, nope. But calories are calories regardless of where they come from. Recently I read about a guy who only ate twinkies to prove this point and he still lost weight lol Amazing, since that would never happen to me
anyways, if someone isn't asking me for my opinion about it, I wouldn't tell them.
We all have to start somewhere; and for a person who previously ate massive amounts of unhealthy calories, it is a HUGE step for them to now be eating within a healthy CALORIE range. Learning to eat healthy is a process, and one that is often learned best by observing and asking questions, rather than having information forced on you unasked.
I do TOTALLY know where you are coming from, because I sometimes feel the same way when looking at food journals. But we are all at different stages, and above all this site is about encouragement. I sure don't want to be guilty of discouraging someone who is in the beginning stages of making a lifestyle change.0 -
I would tell them. Calories may be calories but they are still at risk for high blood pressurs and diabetes by taking in all that sodium and sugar. Instead of just telling them what they are doing wrong, offer healthy alternatives to what they are currently eating. Maybe they are unaware of all the healthy choices that are available today. They may be eat ing they way they are because of money or time constraints. There are healthy solutions to all of these issues. Being healthy is about WAY more than maintaining a healthy weight.
Good Luck!
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i find there is little i can comment on in good conscience in such a case, as otherwise i start to sound preachy... but neither am i prepared to say 'good job on calorie counting' cause it makes me feel like i am lying as i DON'T think they are doing a good job by using that approach.
So i basically say nothing.
i have this situation with someone i do care about and who is a dear friend, so i warned them 'why' i was not saying much *S* Luckily they understood and did not hate me because of it.0 -
Thanks.. just an FYI Im not talking about just a friend on here.. a real life friend. She has been attempting to lose for so long with such little results Makes my heart sad0
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Maybe you could post on your wall something like "I want to let everyone know out there just because you are under calories dosn't mean you are doing good for your body. You should also watch your sodium intake, fat, sat. fat and so on." Maybe that way, you are letting them know they are still being unhealthy but you are not directing it at them?0
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ok- i just read about it isn't a friend on here. so my last post wont work in that case i would just tell them. since you know them personaly it shouldn't come off bad.0
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no, if i think theyre eating badly, i just dont say anything. I dont really judge too much, because we all have our off days, and i dont always have the healthiest habits or get my 5 a day etc, and i certainly dont eat clean or have much desire to, but i dont cheer someone on for having a terrible diet or for starving themselves if theyre way way under0
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I know this sounds harsh, but I want people around that are inspiring and motivating, not people who eat junk and don't care about their health & fitness (regardless of if they are under whatever their allocation is doesn't matter). I would probably de-friend them.
All the friends I communicate with regularly are of that variety. Of course everyone has the odd bad day but generally they are people who have made a committment to their health & wellbeing.0 -
Hmmmm - that's a tough question, but I will tell you that when I am not getting in enough calories I have a friend on here that always encourages me to get more food in and I appreciate his input about my diet on all levels (he's become a great friend on here-so I respect his input) I also had DQ last night with my boys ( a St.Patty's Day treat) and I wouldn't appreciate somebody being harsh with me about it, since it is a rare occasion thing and I am my own worst critic. So - perhaps if it is somebody who you feel comfortable with and you know they are trying to eat better (healthier) you should say something like you mentioned in your post. I would like feedback - but I know some people really don't.0
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I'd wait until they have any kinds of questions or problems with the weight loss itself. Then bring up the quality of the food they're eating as a possible source of trouble.
I completely agree with this!!! Good thought with an awesome approach!0 -
BTW, calorie intake aside, who cares how skinny you are if you die by the age of 40 from a heart attack??
Great point!!! ps- don't look at what i ate today!!! Mcdonalds and bratwurst!!!0 -
I was going to post a similar question. There is someone on my friends list who goes over on calories and then spends the entire day trying to burn them off. Some of the food is healthy and some isn't. I don't say anything because maybe this is working for her. If she wanted advice I'd give it but I don't think it's any of my business to comment on someones choices. I like most of us have our bad days or junk food days and I think that's ok. For the people who eat this way all the time, just because they are loosing weight doesn't mean they aren't affecting other areas of their bodies.0
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i think that people are on this site for different reasons & if that person really enjoys the junk they're eating & that is their prerogative, then good for them if they are still losing the weight they're trying to lose. not everyone is here to eat healthier necessarily & i doubt they think they're eating ubber healthy, so it'd be a waste of time to point it out to them & might be offensive, besides you don't know how they ate before this site... their one cheeseburger a day now, might've been 3 big macs a day before they joined mfp. we are all here for support, not judgment.0
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It really depends on the person. I try to always be encouraging and uplifting. Losing weight and eating healthy is very hard for most of us. Unless someone really wants me to critique their day i just lift them up. I think most ppl are very hard on themselves without someone adding to it (that wasn't asked to).
I couldn't have said it better myself!0 -
I know that I, personally would like it if someone would say to me "Hey you know that such and such that you ate for lunch may not be the best thing to eat." I may have a perfectly good reason for why it was eaten (there is a sort of struggle on the homefront with food and what/how it's being prepared so there is a lot of leeway right now until everyone is on the same page) but if the comment isn't nasty then it shouldn't offend. I know I'm the first to admit I am so not the greatest when it comes to what is best to eat and whats the best way to diet and what exercises are best. I like any feedback that can help me that I can get!0
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Thanks.. just an FYI Im not talking about just a friend on here.. a real life friend. She has been attempting to lose for so long with such little results Makes my heart sad
That's different. If it's a "real life" proper friend it's more complicated. I guess you know your friend best, to know if she'd be offended if you mentioned it or not.
I've got a few people in my office into fitness. I coached two guys through their first half marathons and advise a female colleague with her food. However, they all came to me for advice because they wanted to change... I wouldn't force my views on anyone.
It's more complicated with a friend.0 -
I would love to see my mom lose significant weight so being under eating crap but her sticking with it is most important right now...maybe in the future if her health concerns have not been eliminated by decreased weight alone I would comment on nutrtrition...I think it depends on where the person is in this journey and what their goals are...also if they seem to be working on misinformation etc...I am dying to clue a lady I know in that her calories burned estimations are WRONG but she won't listen so I leave it be.
That is exactly how I feel. I gotta do what I gotta do to lose weight and if that means 100 calorie packs or a taco bell bean burrito once in a while then thats what I am going to do to stay on track. I can't go from eating crap daily to broiled chicken and spinach every day.. NO WAY, not going to happen. My # 1 goal at this point is to stay under calories.. I can't be worried about all ingredients and sodium and all that crap because it's hard enough to just stay under calories for me so thats what I have to focus on. I make better and better choices every day and thats all I can ask for. So I would prolly take offense if you made comments like that on my diary just for those reasons... But like someone else said if they arent losing weight and wondering why then thats where you can clue them in, and don't forget to tell them alternatives when you do clue them in. have a good day0 -
MYOB unless someone asks.
I'm eating more salads & fewer desserts now than before I started, but that's because my main concern is calorie intake.
So, if I now eat a single hamburger w/o mayo, a small order of fries, and water; that's fewer calories than a double cheeseburger, large fries, and a malt. Probably somewhat healthier, too, but to reiterate, that's not my main concern.
I don't aspire to be a health nut. I just want to lose some weight.0 -
I think it depends on a few things. If they are someone you know then you could say something. If you don't know them personally then I wouldn't unless they ask. The thing is some people have bad days. If say they had pizza I would look at the rest of their day. I would look at their week, maybe look for a pattern. I am having pizza tonight. I worked out I have room for the calories, and I would be upset if someone commented on it. The rest of my eating, I think looks good.
The people that get my goat are the ones who complain about not losing and whine, but when you look at thier journal they are eating junk.0
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