Normal daily activity verse exercise

Dauntlessness
Dauntlessness Posts: 1,489 Member
edited September 25 in Fitness and Exercise
First of all, I don't mean to be a downer or invalidate others activities in any way. If I come across that way, I apologize in advance. I know how hard it is to be active and I think you are all doing so wonderful. I am just trying to be honest although that sometimes gets me into trouble...lol

Something is confusing me. Where is that line between a normal persons daily activity verse what is considered exercise for them?
Most people work, clean their houses, run after kids and I view that as part of everyday life and I personally don't record that as exercise for myself. I will only do it if I go above and beyond what I feel is part of my daily routine. (Like moving around furniture and washing walls for like 2-4 hours.

What do you think?

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  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
    I think its really up to the person since they are the only ones who know how hard they worked.I live in a pretty small apartment and its really easy to clean so I never log it.
  • jrt9999
    jrt9999 Posts: 114
    I only count the times I get my HRM on and exercise.

    I live in the Seattle area and once the rain stops and summer gets here I am sure I will count the times I spend long days working in the yard, as i am sure I will be famished and will be looking towards those extra calories after a long day in the yard.
  • givprayz
    givprayz Posts: 328
    I agree that those sound like normal daily activity. But for some people, those activities are above and beyond what they usually do. I spend most of every day sitting either on a computer, doing paperwork, or rolling back and forth across my tiny office, with a fair amount of up and down taking care of my little patients (school nurse). I don't usually spend three hours on my feet cleaning out the garage, so I would log that. I would not log normal cleaning in my living room, but I would log a full clean-out of my kitchen cabinets and pantry. I have found it is important for me not to let my net calories slip below 1100-1200 more than once in a great while, so when I am significantly more active than normal, I log it. It is really different for everyone, but that is what works for me. So if you see "90 minutes Housework, light, moderate effort" logged into my exercise, it is above and beyond "normal" even if it looks pretty mundane.
  • audjrey
    audjrey Posts: 360 Member
    I think all people have a definitive idea of what exercise is and what it isn't. The problem of conflict arises when we don't share similar views.

    The dictionary was created so that all of mankind could subscribe to a commonly held belief about meaning and interpretation. And yet, if you look at the dictionary, there can be several meanings for one word.

    My husband and I debated over the word "inertia" for almost 2 hours before we pulled out the dictionary only to discover we were both right in its meaning, in spite of the fact that our meanings opposed each other.

    How frustrating is that?!

    Turning to the dictionary now to help better understand the differences and similarities between activity and exercise, the dictionary defines EXERCISE as, "an 'activity' requiring physical effort, carried out esp. to sustain or improve health and fitness," and ACTIVITY as, "the condition in which things are happening or being done; busy or vigorous action or movement; a thing that a person or group does or has done; a recreational pursuit or pastime."

    Thus, exercise encompasses the word activity and daily activities such as mowing the grass, raking leaves, gardening and house work are exercise because they are activities most people do on a regular basis, and much like a daily exercise program, they build up a sweat, burn calories, and help sustain or improve not only physical health and fitness, but mental, emotional, spiritual, and financial fitness too.

    One of the first things medical professionals tell obese people is, "move around". Using your example, housework is most definitely a form of moving around.

    When I watched Dr. Oz a few days ago, he had a woman who was over 700 lbs on his show. In order to help her lose weight, he requested she do simple things such as making her own toast in the morning & cleaning her own dishes. A few weeks later she was then requested to do her own grocery shopping, laundry and small increments of housework, like cleaning the bathroom. Consequently, she lost 37 lbs.

    Now this might not be exercise in your eyes or mine because it's something we do on a regular basis and we take it for granted as normal activity. However, regardless of how we perceive it, it still does our bodies good. The barrier lies not in the physical activity, but in our attitudes and perceptions of it.

    To further emphasize this point, if you asked that obese 700 lb woman if house work and moving around was exercise, she would reply with a resounding, "YES!" while you and I most likely would not.

    The 1,200 (for most women) and 1,800 (for most men) basil calories required to sustain daily life does not include activities like gardening and housework, but rather bodily functions like breathing, digestion, organ and muscle movement, elimination, resting, etc. So technically, ALL activity beyond basic bodily functions is EXERCISE, providing it requires physical effort and is carried out especially to sustain or improve health and fitness.

    From what you've written about yourself, it sounds like you hold the perception that daily household activities are not necessarily exercise (for you) because you have a preconceived idea of what exercise means to you.

    So be it. That is how you perceive your world. Consequently, you don't record everyday life activities as part of exercise because of this belief.

    I guess the key is to be mindful that not all people share your view, just as not all people will share mine about this. Furthermore, just because we hold a strong opinion of something does not give us the right to negate the views of others. This is not a contest of who's right and who's wrong, but merely a simple difference in perceptions and opinions.

    My suggestion (should anyone care) is this; believe what you want to believe and let others believe what they want to believe about exercise. So long as others benefit from daily activities in a positive way and aren't harming themselves or others, and so long as they find enjoyment and satisfaction in their daily activities, let them enjoy their activity in peace even if you don't necessarily agree. The truth is, you don't have to agree with someone to be able to support them in their decisions and activities (again, providing their activities aren't harmful to themselves or others). All you need do is be happy for them, encourage them, and wish them nothing but vibrant health. And for yourself, do the same.

    Much peace to all of you :smile:
  • Lanfear
    Lanfear Posts: 524
    I think all people have a definitive idea of what exercise is and what it isn't. The problem of conflict arises when we don't share similar views.

    The dictionary was created so that all of mankind could subscribe to a commonly held belief about meaning and interpretation. And yet, if you look at the dictionary, there can be several meanings for one word.

    My husband and I debated over the word "inertia" for almost 2 hours before we pulled out the dictionary only to discover we were both right in its meaning, in spite of the fact that our meanings opposed each other.

    How frustrating is that?!

    Turning to the dictionary now to help better understand the differences and similarities between activity and exercise, the dictionary defines EXERCISE as, "an 'activity' requiring physical effort, carried out esp. to sustain or improve health and fitness," and ACTIVITY as, "the condition in which things are happening or being done; busy or vigorous action or movement; a thing that a person or group does or has done; a recreational pursuit or pastime."

    Thus, exercise encompasses the word activity and daily activities such as mowing the grass, raking leaves, gardening and house work are exercise because they are activities most people do on a regular basis, and much like a daily exercise program, they build up a sweat, burn calories, and help sustain or improve not only physical health and fitness, but mental, emotional, spiritual, and financial fitness too.

    One of the first things medical professionals tell obese people is, "move around". Using your example, housework is most definitely a form of moving around.

    When I watched Dr. Oz a few days ago, he had a woman who was over 700 lbs on his show. In order to help her lose weight, he requested she do simple things such as making her own toast in the morning & cleaning her own dishes. A few weeks later she was then requested to do her own grocery shopping, laundry and small increments of housework, like cleaning the bathroom. Consequently, she lost 37 lbs.

    Now this might not be exercise in your eyes or mine because it's something we do on a regular basis and we take it for granted as normal activity. However, regardless of how we perceive it, it still does our bodies good. The barrier lies not in the physical activity, but in our attitudes and perceptions of it.

    To further emphasize this point, if you asked that obese 700 lb woman if house work and moving around was exercise, she would reply with a resounding, "YES!" while you and I most likely would not.

    The 1,200 (for most women) and 1,800 (for most men) basil calories required to sustain daily life does not include activities like gardening and housework, but rather bodily functions like breathing, digestion, organ and muscle movement, elimination, resting, etc. So technically, ALL activity beyond basic bodily functions is EXERCISE, providing it requires physical effort and is carried out especially to sustain or improve health and fitness.

    From what you've written about yourself, it sounds like you hold the perception that daily household activities are not necessarily exercise (for you) because you have a preconceived idea of what exercise means to you.

    So be it. That is how you perceive your world. Consequently, you don't record everyday life activities as part of exercise because of this belief.

    I guess the key is to be mindful that not all people share your view, just as not all people will share mine about this. Furthermore, just because we hold a strong opinion of something does not give us the right to negate the views of others. This is not a contest of who's right and who's wrong, but merely a simple difference in perceptions and opinions.

    My suggestion (should anyone care) is this; believe what you want to believe and let others believe what they want to believe about exercise. So long as others benefit from daily activities in a positive way and aren't harming themselves or others, and so long as they find enjoyment and satisfaction in their daily activities, let them enjoy their activity in peace even if you don't necessarily agree. The truth is, you don't have to agree with someone to be able to support them in their decisions and activities (again, providing their activities aren't harmful to themselves or others). All you need do is be happy for them, encourage them, and wish them nothing but vibrant health. And for yourself, do the same.

    Much peace to all of you :smile:

    What a great post! :flowerforyou:
  • missy1970eb
    missy1970eb Posts: 1,209 Member
    i only log, walking running cycling and the gym ball:smile:
  • I think all people have a definitive idea of what exercise is and what it isn't. The problem of conflict arises when we don't share similar views.

    The dictionary was created so that all of mankind could subscribe to a commonly held belief about meaning and interpretation. And yet, if you look at the dictionary, there can be several meanings for one word.

    My husband and I debated over the word "inertia" for almost 2 hours before we pulled out the dictionary only to discover we were both right in its meaning, in spite of the fact that our meanings opposed each other.

    How frustrating is that?!

    Turning to the dictionary now to help better understand the differences and similarities between activity and exercise, the dictionary defines EXERCISE as, "an 'activity' requiring physical effort, carried out esp. to sustain or improve health and fitness," and ACTIVITY as, "the condition in which things are happening or being done; busy or vigorous action or movement; a thing that a person or group does or has done; a recreational pursuit or pastime."

    Thus, exercise encompasses the word activity and daily activities such as mowing the grass, raking leaves, gardening and house work are exercise because they are activities most people do on a regular basis, and much like a daily exercise program, they build up a sweat, burn calories, and help sustain or improve not only physical health and fitness, but mental, emotional, spiritual, and financial fitness too.

    One of the first things medical professionals tell obese people is, "move around". Using your example, housework is most definitely a form of moving around.

    When I watched Dr. Oz a few days ago, he had a woman who was over 700 lbs on his show. In order to help her lose weight, he requested she do simple things such as making her own toast in the morning & cleaning her own dishes. A few weeks later she was then requested to do her own grocery shopping, laundry and small increments of housework, like cleaning the bathroom. Consequently, she lost 37 lbs.

    Now this might not be exercise in your eyes or mine because it's something we do on a regular basis and we take it for granted as normal activity. However, regardless of how we perceive it, it still does our bodies good. The barrier lies not in the physical activity, but in our attitudes and perceptions of it.

    To further emphasize this point, if you asked that obese 700 lb woman if house work and moving around was exercise, she would reply with a resounding, "YES!" while you and I most likely would not.

    The 1,200 (for most women) and 1,800 (for most men) basil calories required to sustain daily life does not include activities like gardening and housework, but rather bodily functions like breathing, digestion, organ and muscle movement, elimination, resting, etc. So technically, ALL activity beyond basic bodily functions is EXERCISE, providing it requires physical effort and is carried out especially to sustain or improve health and fitness.

    From what you've written about yourself, it sounds like you hold the perception that daily household activities are not necessarily exercise (for you) because you have a preconceived idea of what exercise means to you.

    So be it. That is how you perceive your world. Consequently, you don't record everyday life activities as part of exercise because of this belief.

    I guess the key is to be mindful that not all people share your view, just as not all people will share mine about this. Furthermore, just because we hold a strong opinion of something does not give us the right to negate the views of others. This is not a contest of who's right and who's wrong, but merely a simple difference in perceptions and opinions.

    My suggestion (should anyone care) is this; believe what you want to believe and let others believe what they want to believe about exercise. So long as others benefit from daily activities in a positive way and aren't harming themselves or others, and so long as they find enjoyment and satisfaction in their daily activities, let them enjoy their activity in peace even if you don't necessarily agree. The truth is, you don't have to agree with someone to be able to support them in their decisions and activities (again, providing their activities aren't harmful to themselves or others). All you need do is be happy for them, encourage them, and wish them nothing but vibrant health. And for yourself, do the same.

    Much peace to all of you :smile:

    Perfectly said, and in a judicious and respectful tone!! Another thread like this was posted a few days ago, without the same tone as this one...kuddos to you all for playing nicely :flowerforyou: THIS is what MFP is all about!
  • Dauntlessness
    Dauntlessness Posts: 1,489 Member
    Thanks so much for posting that reply. It is such a gray area for me and I really wasn't judging but merely asking what exactly are other people's definition of exercise is. It can be fairly confusing to newbies (which I am) to understand which activities you decide to incorporate into your "calories burned for the day" and which ones you should consider as everyday life. I don't want to misjudge my calories or others to either. I am one of those people who like to know exactly what I need to do when accomplishing a task because I have this crazy obsession that if I don't know every little bit of info, it leaves too much room for error. Though maybe a little blunt, this post was intended to help others and myself to be successful. I know now exercise is way too interpretative that there really is not clear answer. I guess I will have to figure out what is best for me. :) Love to you all. <3
  • FearAnLoathing
    FearAnLoathing Posts: 4,852 Member
    I think all people have a definitive idea of what exercise is and what it isn't. The problem of conflict arises when we don't share similar views.

    The dictionary was created so that all of mankind could subscribe to a commonly held belief about meaning and interpretation. And yet, if you look at the dictionary, there can be several meanings for one word.

    My husband and I debated over the word "inertia" for almost 2 hours before we pulled out the dictionary only to discover we were both right in its meaning, in spite of the fact that our meanings opposed each other.

    How frustrating is that?!

    Turning to the dictionary now to help better understand the differences and similarities between activity and exercise, the dictionary defines EXERCISE as, "an 'activity' requiring physical effort, carried out esp. to sustain or improve health and fitness," and ACTIVITY as, "the condition in which things are happening or being done; busy or vigorous action or movement; a thing that a person or group does or has done; a recreational pursuit or pastime."

    Thus, exercise encompasses the word activity and daily activities such as mowing the grass, raking leaves, gardening and house work are exercise because they are activities most people do on a regular basis, and much like a daily exercise program, they build up a sweat, burn calories, and help sustain or improve not only physical health and fitness, but mental, emotional, spiritual, and financial fitness too.

    One of the first things medical professionals tell obese people is, "move around". Using your example, housework is most definitely a form of moving around.

    When I watched Dr. Oz a few days ago, he had a woman who was over 700 lbs on his show. In order to help her lose weight, he requested she do simple things such as making her own toast in the morning & cleaning her own dishes. A few weeks later she was then requested to do her own grocery shopping, laundry and small increments of housework, like cleaning the bathroom. Consequently, she lost 37 lbs.

    Now this might not be exercise in your eyes or mine because it's something we do on a regular basis and we take it for granted as normal activity. However, regardless of how we perceive it, it still does our bodies good. The barrier lies not in the physical activity, but in our attitudes and perceptions of it.

    To further emphasize this point, if you asked that obese 700 lb woman if house work and moving around was exercise, she would reply with a resounding, "YES!" while you and I most likely would not.

    The 1,200 (for most women) and 1,800 (for most men) basil calories required to sustain daily life does not include activities like gardening and housework, but rather bodily functions like breathing, digestion, organ and muscle movement, elimination, resting, etc. So technically, ALL activity beyond basic bodily functions is EXERCISE, providing it requires physical effort and is carried out especially to sustain or improve health and fitness.

    From what you've written about yourself, it sounds like you hold the perception that daily household activities are not necessarily exercise (for you) because you have a preconceived idea of what exercise means to you.

    So be it. That is how you perceive your world. Consequently, you don't record everyday life activities as part of exercise because of this belief.

    I guess the key is to be mindful that not all people share your view, just as not all people will share mine about this. Furthermore, just because we hold a strong opinion of something does not give us the right to negate the views of others. This is not a contest of who's right and who's wrong, but merely a simple difference in perceptions and opinions.

    My suggestion (should anyone care) is this; believe what you want to believe and let others believe what they want to believe about exercise. So long as others benefit from daily activities in a positive way and aren't harming themselves or others, and so long as they find enjoyment and satisfaction in their daily activities, let them enjoy their activity in peace even if you don't necessarily agree. The truth is, you don't have to agree with someone to be able to support them in their decisions and activities (again, providing their activities aren't harmful to themselves or others). All you need do is be happy for them, encourage them, and wish them nothing but vibrant health. And for yourself, do the same.

    Much peace to all of you :smile:


    That is a great post
  • hedleyrocks247
    hedleyrocks247 Posts: 185 Member
    I think all people have a definitive idea of what exercise is and what it isn't. The problem of conflict arises when we don't share similar views.

    The dictionary was created so that all of mankind could subscribe to a commonly held belief about meaning and interpretation. And yet, if you look at the dictionary, there can be several meanings for one word.

    My husband and I debated over the word "inertia" for almost 2 hours before we pulled out the dictionary only to discover we were both right in its meaning, in spite of the fact that our meanings opposed each other.

    How frustrating is that?!

    Turning to the dictionary now to help better understand the differences and similarities between activity and exercise, the dictionary defines EXERCISE as, "an 'activity' requiring physical effort, carried out esp. to sustain or improve health and fitness," and ACTIVITY as, "the condition in which things are happening or being done; busy or vigorous action or movement; a thing that a person or group does or has done; a recreational pursuit or pastime."

    Thus, exercise encompasses the word activity and daily activities such as mowing the grass, raking leaves, gardening and house work are exercise because they are activities most people do on a regular basis, and much like a daily exercise program, they build up a sweat, burn calories, and help sustain or improve not only physical health and fitness, but mental, emotional, spiritual, and financial fitness too.

    One of the first things medical professionals tell obese people is, "move around". Using your example, housework is most definitely a form of moving around.

    When I watched Dr. Oz a few days ago, he had a woman who was over 700 lbs on his show. In order to help her lose weight, he requested she do simple things such as making her own toast in the morning & cleaning her own dishes. A few weeks later she was then requested to do her own grocery shopping, laundry and small increments of housework, like cleaning the bathroom. Consequently, she lost 37 lbs.

    Now this might not be exercise in your eyes or mine because it's something we do on a regular basis and we take it for granted as normal activity. However, regardless of how we perceive it, it still does our bodies good. The barrier lies not in the physical activity, but in our attitudes and perceptions of it.

    To further emphasize this point, if you asked that obese 700 lb woman if house work and moving around was exercise, she would reply with a resounding, "YES!" while you and I most likely would not.

    The 1,200 (for most women) and 1,800 (for most men) basil calories required to sustain daily life does not include activities like gardening and housework, but rather bodily functions like breathing, digestion, organ and muscle movement, elimination, resting, etc. So technically, ALL activity beyond basic bodily functions is EXERCISE, providing it requires physical effort and is carried out especially to sustain or improve health and fitness.

    From what you've written about yourself, it sounds like you hold the perception that daily household activities are not necessarily exercise (for you) because you have a preconceived idea of what exercise means to you.

    So be it. That is how you perceive your world. Consequently, you don't record everyday life activities as part of exercise because of this belief.

    I guess the key is to be mindful that not all people share your view, just as not all people will share mine about this. Furthermore, just because we hold a strong opinion of something does not give us the right to negate the views of others. This is not a contest of who's right and who's wrong, but merely a simple difference in perceptions and opinions.

    My suggestion (should anyone care) is this; believe what you want to believe and let others believe what they want to believe about exercise. So long as others benefit from daily activities in a positive way and aren't harming themselves or others, and so long as they find enjoyment and satisfaction in their daily activities, let them enjoy their activity in peace even if you don't necessarily agree. The truth is, you don't have to agree with someone to be able to support them in their decisions and activities (again, providing their activities aren't harmful to themselves or others). All you need do is be happy for them, encourage them, and wish them nothing but vibrant health. And for yourself, do the same.

    Much peace to all of you :smile:

    Very well said!!! :happy:

    Might I also add, that some people may set their "activity level" to be sedentary therefore allowing them to enter everything activity they do as opposed to having the site "estimate" it for them????

    When chosing our "normal daily activities" it really only asks about what you do for work......I take this to assume that it doesn't factor in what your doing at home or out and about?!?!?!? And when I compare what MFP is giving me for calorie intake compared to other sites....it's pretty much bang on!!!!!
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