Just a lil fact about Splenda:

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  • fatboypup
    fatboypup Posts: 1,873 Member
    I dont care youll find me dead with a cargo pocket full of splenda!
  • Levedi
    Levedi Posts: 290 Member
    I don't use splenda but I've heard of alot of people who do. I prefer to use real cane sugar, but I figure post this so it gets the word out for those who are unaware of the facts behind splenda.

    Splenda is a natural sugar because its made from sugar, right? Wrong! Splenda, also known as sucralose is indeed made from sugar. But, the sugar is replaced with chlorine molecules making it taste sweeter than sugar. Your body doesnt recognize chlorine so it doesnt metabolize it, hence the no calorie claim! Studies done on animals show a 40% reduction of the thymus gland as well as swelling of the liver and kidneys!

    Actually this isn't accurate.

    Splenda is made from sugar. The three hydroxyl groups (oxygen and hydrogen) on the sucrose compound are replaced with chloride ions, which are electrolytes found naturally in the body.

    Dosing for these experiments are generally not physiologically relevant and thus far there are too few conclusive studies to show this sweetener as being harmful at levels that are able to be consumed on a daily basis.


    Exactly. Go back and check out the Splenda thread from a few days ago. I listed four different scientific studies with working links showing the various research on sucralose including a massive review of other studies that concluded that Splenda has no proven harmful physical or metabolic effects. If you're going to claim something will kill people provide a link to the relevant scientific study. If it's not one health scare it'ss another. And remember the old pharmacist's adage - the only difference between food, medicine and poison is dosage levels. Even arsenic can be healthy if taken in small enough doses and water will kill you if consumed in excess.
  • tsimehc2000
    tsimehc2000 Posts: 80 Member
    I used to work for a company that was involved in the pioneering work on sucralose. I'm a bachelor degreed chemist by education. Most artificial sweeteners (exception being aspartame) are based of the sucrose molecule. I know for a fact that the synthesization of sucralose was based on designing a better non-caloric sweetener by a company that is involved in food science - the company I previously worked for.

    All that being said, I prefer natural non-caloric sweeteners like stevia over synthetic sweeteners.
  • Oh! Thats really new to me! Glad I read your post~ I use splenda all the time, so this came as a little bit of a shock to me. Ive learned that diet sugars are not good for you, and may result in cancer. Knowing that they may cause inflammation of the kidneys would explain the random pains I feel at times. It may be a result of using splenda and by working out.
  • yummy♥
    yummy♥ Posts: 612 Member
    I love you songbyrd

    i dont use splenda, but i think i love you too
  • jazzybean1
    jazzybean1 Posts: 113
    stevia or truvia as well, both natural. Honey occasionally as it has many health benefits...
  • kdiamond
    kdiamond Posts: 3,329 Member
    I used to be a Splenda-holic until I discovered Stevia (Truvia)...it really is superior and doesn't taste "fake".
  • clw_888
    clw_888 Posts: 157 Member
    Aaaahhh...the great artificial sweeteners debate. Good or bad for you? I choose not to eat any form of artificial sweeteners since everytime I do I end up with a migraine. I stick with honey or plain old sugar and make sure to work it into my calories if I need a bit of sweet.
  • sbwood888
    sbwood888 Posts: 953 Member
    Jut thought I would mention that municipal drinking water supplies are also clorinated.
  • mielikkibz
    mielikkibz Posts: 552 Member
    if all I ate was a brick of splenda every day, exclusively, I'd probably get an enlarged liver too.

    Lucky I only put a packet in my tea once a week or so....:noway:

    ROFl. .. agreed, everything is bad in extreme measurements. .. I use splenda, Truvia ick, stevia ick, tried them in my cookies recently, I didn't make choclate chip cookies, i made chocolate chip biscuits, such a waste of money. . . next time, i will use Splenda.
  • BaronessBlixen
    BaronessBlixen Posts: 56 Member
    I love the artificial sweetener debate. I know that virtually all of our foods and beverages are processed to some extent, but I have a huge issue with putting something into my body with a manipulated chemical composition. My best friend's mother was recently diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, which got my attention in a big way -- your body does not recognize things that are not sugar, pure and simple.

    Not everyone out there gets headaches and stomach pains as I and many others do from the stuff, but there have been tons of studies done proving that artificial sweeteners increase appetite. Not only that, but psychologically, many people feel that since they are saving calories in the beverage area, it's okay to up the food calories (i.e. the person who goes to McDonald's and orders the super size meal with a diet Coke). Just doesn't seem like a good idea all around...and then there's that nasty aftertaste to boot. :wink:
  • this was a good thread. Things to note.

    1.) Chlorine is different than Chloride. If you are going to repeat something you read, its best to get the compound right

    2.) Guess what else has chloride ions in it? Almost every piece of food on the planet. It's called salt.

    Sodium Chloride NaCl

    They don't say...watch out for all that Chloride in your diet either. It's the sodium that causes the problems.

    3.) If you are concerned about the chlorine levels in Splenda

    a) Do not , I repeat do NOT, prepare your morning coffee in a swimming pool

    b) Under no circumstances are you to subsitute 1 tablespoon of Clorox in lieu of your CoffeeMate

    4.) If you injest Splenda while your child gets an immunization shot, your hot tub repairman will develop autism.

    Sodium

    LOLOL :laugh:
  • elcyclista
    elcyclista Posts: 393
    this was a good thread. Things to note.

    1.) Chlorine is different than Chloride. If you are going to repeat something you read, its best to get the compound right

    2.) Guess what else has chloride ions in it? Almost every piece of food on the planet. It's called salt.

    Sodium Chloride NaCl

    They don't say...watch out for all that Chloride in your diet either. It's the sodium that causes the problems.


    Hmm.. But Chloride isn't a compound, its just an element with extra electrons. Chlorine can be a molecule such as Cl2, dissolved in liquid or a gas, but neither Chlorine or Chloride are compounds unless they have another element attached to it (such as NaCl).

    Also, sodium ions and chloride ions are few of what are considered electrolytes, which are required for normal body functions, such as sending signals from brain to organ, etc.

    There is also a small amount of chlorine added to tap water here in the US, which is supposed to aid in preventing cavities. It is a pretty controversial subject though.
  • elcyclista
    elcyclista Posts: 393
    Oops, meant to say that only if some other element is bonded to chloride or chlorine, then it is considered a compound. XD
  • jkestens63
    jkestens63 Posts: 1,164 Member
    Here is all you need to know about Splenda. Ready?.........It will kill you.

    Anything taken in the wrong amount will kill you. Splenda is a tool to be used responsibly. If you're 100% organic and clean eating then I can see swearing off this type product, but if you're not - at some point you are putting something in your body that is not necessarily great for you. I don't sweat the small stuff like that.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    Here is a study done by Duke University and they are proving it harmful:


    New Study Says Splenda Causes Weight Gain, Health Problems

    Duke Study On Splenda Ignites Controversy Over Sweetener

    Posted: 12:40 pm EDT September 29, 2008Updated: 1:19 pm EDT September 29, 2008

    A new study out of Duke University found the artificial sweetener Splenda contributes to obesity and may cause other health problems.
    The study was published in the The Journal of Toxicology and Environmental Health.
    Duke researchers exposed male rats to the sweetener for 12 weeks and found Splenda appeared to destroy "good" bacteria in the intestines, prevented prescription drugs from being absorbed, and contributed to obesity.
    Splenda and other artificial sweetners have been the center of controversy for some time.
    In February, a study published in Behavioral Neuroscience cited laboratory evidence that the widespread use of no-calorie sweeteners like Splenda may actually make it harder for people to control their intake and body weight.
    Causing even more controvery is the fact the Duke study was funded by the Sugar Association, the powerful lobbying group for the sugar industry.
    Duke University researchers said the Sugar Association had no input into the study's findings and conclusions.
    McNeil Nutritionals, which makes Splenda, has been battling with the Sugar Association for several years.
    In 2004, the association sued McNeil, claiming it had misled consumers by claiming Splenda was “made like sugar, so it tastes like sugar.” Splenda's main ingredient , sucralose, is manufactured. The process involves the use of a sugar molecule but there is no sugar in the finished product. McNeil said the Duke findings are not supported by the data presented.
    The company also said Splenda may be safely used "as part of a healthy diet."
    The group Citizens For Health has filed a petition with the FDA to review its approval of Sucralose and to require a warning label on Splenda packaging cautioning that people who take medications or have gastrointestinal problems avoid using Splenda.

    http://www.wpxi.com/health/17581875/detail.html
  • JennDoesKeto
    JennDoesKeto Posts: 244 Member
    i use splenda daily and i'm still alive! 1/2 to one packet gives me all the sweetness i need in tea or coffee.

    +10000
  • grace173
    grace173 Posts: 180 Member
    I thought that the sweetners were really expensive so I bought a cheap one called Equal and got a horrible rash on my face and back of my arms from it! Never again!
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    stevia or truvia as well, both natural. Honey occasionally as it has many health benefits...

    Nope, Truvia is not natural and is made from GMO plants. And Coca-Cola and Cargill have a hand in Truvia. If you know anything about Cargill and their business practices you know how unhealthy Truvia is............pure marketing scheme.

    Same with that Purvia crap..............not as healthy as you think it is. Owned by Pepsi-Cola companies, another marketing scheme.

    I posted an article about how bad these 2 items are...........I am still trying to find it.

    I have started growing my own stevia plants. The first endeavor in growing them didn't turn out too well. Hopefully this time will be better.
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    Do you have *ANY* idea how many people bake with this stuff by the CUPFULS? Baking stuff for their kids nonetheless. So, we're talking small people ingesting the stuff regularly. If kids were dropping like flies I doubt that there's ANY way you'd be able to keep that many parents quiet. And, no, a handful of parents is *not* conclusive (although undoubtedly sad and a horrible thing). Out of the number of people that buy and use the stuff...

    Seriously, guys, quit going for shock value and starting conspiracy theories about how everything is poisonous.

    No one is going for shock value. READ the study that I posted from Duke University. Seriously, it is not healthy in the least.
  • misslizz6958
    misslizz6958 Posts: 124 Member
    As someone that understands how studies work I will still continue to eat splenda. I go though a large bag of it every few weeks.
  • Rurouni_Kou
    Rurouni_Kou Posts: 180 Member
    this was a good thread. Things to note.

    1.) Chlorine is different than Chloride. If you are going to repeat something you read, its best to get the compound right

    2.) Guess what else has chloride ions in it? Almost every piece of food on the planet. It's called salt.

    Sodium Chloride NaCl

    They don't say...watch out for all that Chloride in your diet either. It's the sodium that causes the problems.


    Hmm.. But Chloride isn't a compound, its just an element with extra electrons. Chlorine can be a molecule such as Cl2, dissolved in liquid or a gas, but neither Chlorine or Chloride are compounds unless they have another element attached to it (such as NaCl).

    Also, sodium ions and chloride ions are few of what are considered electrolytes, which are required for normal body functions, such as sending signals from brain to organ, etc.

    There is also a small amount of chlorine added to tap water here in the US, which is supposed to aid in preventing cavities. It is a pretty controversial subject though.

    I think you mean a small amount of fluoride added to the water in certain cities (not in all US cities- my city doesn't have it but our neighboring city does) not chlorine. While chlorine is added to water, it doesn't do anything for cavity prevention.

    On another note, if you're worried about chlorine in water, let it sit out for 24 hrs before you drink it. Chlorine off gasses in 24 hrs.
  • elcyclista
    elcyclista Posts: 393
    Oooh you're right it's fluorine. XD I get the two confused, they're so close on the periodic table haha.
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
    I stay clear of artificial sweetners. If I use sweetner I use sugar or honey. I just cut way back.
    I do hate when I buy something and when I get home I find it has artificial sweetners in them. Most of the time I throw it out.
    You can always taste it.
  • dls06
    dls06 Posts: 6,774 Member
    Do you have *ANY* idea how many people bake with this stuff by the CUPFULS? Baking stuff for their kids nonetheless. So, we're talking small people ingesting the stuff regularly. If kids were dropping like flies I doubt that there's ANY way you'd be able to keep that many parents quiet. And, no, a handful of parents is *not* conclusive (although undoubtedly sad and a horrible thing). Out of the number of people that buy and use the stuff...

    Seriously, guys, quit going for shock value and starting conspiracy theories about how everything is poisonous.

    No one is going for shock value. READ the study that I posted from Duke University. Seriously, it is not healthy in the least.

    Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Ral263
    Ral263 Posts: 318 Member
    Do you have *ANY* idea how many people bake with this stuff by the CUPFULS? Baking stuff for their kids nonetheless. So, we're talking small people ingesting the stuff regularly. If kids were dropping like flies I doubt that there's ANY way you'd be able to keep that many parents quiet. And, no, a handful of parents is *not* conclusive (although undoubtedly sad and a horrible thing). Out of the number of people that buy and use the stuff...

    Seriously, guys, quit going for shock value and starting conspiracy theories about how everything is poisonous.

    No one is going for shock value. READ the study that I posted from Duke University. Seriously, it is not healthy in the least.

    The actual study from Duke definitely needs to be taken with a grain of salt-- like I said earlier, rats have completely different anatomies than humans, you simply cannot extrapolate the data from that study to how a human body would react.

    The fact that the sugar association paid for the entire study should give you an idea about how they can skew the way that results are presented.
  • Splenda is horrible! Sometimes it is just better to stick with small amounts of the real thing (sugar).
  • Grokette
    Grokette Posts: 3,330 Member
    Do you have *ANY* idea how many people bake with this stuff by the CUPFULS? Baking stuff for their kids nonetheless. So, we're talking small people ingesting the stuff regularly. If kids were dropping like flies I doubt that there's ANY way you'd be able to keep that many parents quiet. And, no, a handful of parents is *not* conclusive (although undoubtedly sad and a horrible thing). Out of the number of people that buy and use the stuff...

    Seriously, guys, quit going for shock value and starting conspiracy theories about how everything is poisonous.

    No one is going for shock value. READ the study that I posted from Duke University. Seriously, it is not healthy in the least.

    The actual study from Duke definitely needs to be taken with a grain of salt-- like I said earlier, rats have completely different anatomies than humans, you simply cannot extrapolate the data from that study to how a human body would react.

    The fact that the sugar association paid for the entire study should give you an idea about how they can skew the way that results are presented.

    I don't believe the Sugar Association skewed any results, especially since splenda is "supposedly" made from sugar, it would help their industry for it to be proved to be healthy.........

    There are many other studies here..........

    http://www.splendaexposed.com/articles/index.html
  • timlover38
    timlover38 Posts: 22 Member
    this was a good thread. Things to note.

    1.) Chlorine is different than Chloride. If you are going to repeat something you read, its best to get the compound right

    2.) Guess what else has chloride ions in it? Almost every piece of food on the planet. It's called salt.

    Sodium Chloride NaCl

    They don't say...watch out for all that Chloride in your diet either. It's the sodium that causes the problems.


    Hmm.. But Chloride isn't a compound, its just an element with extra electrons. Chlorine can be a molecule such as Cl2, dissolved in liquid or a gas, but neither Chlorine or Chloride are compounds unless they have another element attached to it (such as NaCl).

    Also, sodium ions and chloride ions are few of what are considered electrolytes, which are required for normal body functions, such as sending signals from brain to organ, etc.

    There is also a small amount of chlorine added to tap water here in the US, which is supposed to aid in preventing cavities. It is a pretty controversial subject though.

    Well actually, the only way to create chloride is through it becoming a compound with another element.

    Chlorine is an element. Chloride is an anion formed during a compound of two elements.

    So I was half right. in a sense. More right given that the chloride being discussed was part of whatever compounds are in Splenda.

    However none of that changes my point. If you are going to quote chemicals in food, its best to get the name right, because there is a large difference between chloride and chlorine in your food. Especially when most people are going to think of sodium hypochlorite (bleach) when they read the word chlorine.
  • WarmDontBurn
    WarmDontBurn Posts: 1,253 Member
    GO SPLENDA!! :drinker:
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