Eating less than 1200 calories a day - Suggestions

TanyaHelm
TanyaHelm Posts: 1
edited September 26 in Introduce Yourself
My Dr told me to eat 900 calories a day (max) in order to lose weight. Everything I have read tells me that my body would go into starvation mode, therefore preventing me from losing weight. Any suggestions? I am 5'3 160lbs - goal to get down to 120/125. I am eating no more than 1200 a day currently and have lost 7lbs so far in 1.5 weeks.
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  • That sounds crazy. You should be eating at least 1200 calories a day!!! Keep doing what you are doing!
  • luv2ash
    luv2ash Posts: 1,903 Member
    I cannot imagine a doctor telling someone to eat less than 900 calories?????

    Ummm, eat lots of extra lean protein and veggies!!!! nothing else---take lots of vitamins cuz you're gonna need them.
  • hpsnickers1
    hpsnickers1 Posts: 2,783 Member
    Yes it will. Unfortunately, medical school doesn't focus on nutrition. You might lose weight doing it his way but it will affect your health in the long run and you will lose more muscle mass than fat mass (the body tried to protect our fat reserves especially as they get to healthier levels).

    A registered dietitian or nutritionist is better for discussing diet and nutrition. You have lost mostly water weight at this point. The loss will slow.

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    http://www.hussmanfitness.org/html/TPAdaptation.html (he seems to be pointing fingers at "no-carbers". This info applies to all).

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    Don't go below your BMR (the number you get from the calculator under Tools). This is the number your body requires just for systems and organs to function. And eat most if not all of exercise calories (keep your NET at or above 1200).

    If and when you hit a plateau you will need to drop your weight loss goal down and this will up your calories. You don't want to drop below 1200.
  • soccermom004
    soccermom004 Posts: 444 Member
    I am 5'4" and weighed 160 pounds on January 1st. I have followed MFP guidelines for one pound a week loss including eating back most of my exercise calories. I have lost 28 pounds and plan on losing about 5 or so more. I think I would have been miserable trying to do this on 900 calories and not stayed with it. Did you ask why so low?
  • jscimeca
    jscimeca Posts: 66
    I want to say that eating only 900 calories a day is unhealthy. I'm confused as to why your Dr would recommend that. If you did it, you will probably lose weight, at first. Then when you eat regularly, you run the risk of gaining all the weight back.
  • rotneys5
    rotneys5 Posts: 3
    your doing great. My dietitian says the weight will come off slowly, Eat non starch vegetables and fiber, I am 55, 5'2 and am at 171, lost 4 lbs in 2 weeks. Keeps up the great job, your on your way. I was recommended no less than 1200 cal diet, so you don't burn muscle and don't gain it back. 900 doesn't sound healthy. Use the program to choose your level.
  • NoAdditives
    NoAdditives Posts: 4,251 Member
    If you're seeing success with your current habits, stay with them. 900 calories is very, very low. If you can lose weight at 1200, do it.
  • cbaines74
    cbaines74 Posts: 77
    Stay at the 1200 a day, some days if you go under 1200 that is ok, but don't try to go over or under too much.
  • Kirsty_UK
    Kirsty_UK Posts: 964 Member
    900?! :noway:
  • to maintain your weight, multiply your current weight by 10
    then to lose weight, subtract 500 from it and that would need to be your calorie intake for a 1 pound weightloss per week

    i wouldn't go down to 900 calories a day because it seems that would be setting myself up for failure...i would feel hungry all the time and feel deprived.
  • n0pants3ver
    n0pants3ver Posts: 175
    Ignore that doctor. Eat 1,200 a day. You're doing great already!
  • Sigra
    Sigra Posts: 374 Member
    To be honest Starvation mode is different for everyone - and if your doctor tells you 900 then most likely that is above the starvation mode for YOU as a person. (I've heard the average starvation mode kicks in 800cal or below).

    It's really up to you! If you feel that your body is doing fine at 1200 - keep it up. And if you hit a plateau in the future maybe you'll end up trying 900 like the Dr. said :) Who knows!

    Best of luck and grats on the weight loss so far!
  • penny39
    penny39 Posts: 266 Member
    I am 5'3" also. My goal weight is 125. I have been doing 1200 calories give or take and have been losing at 1.5 pounds per week also. So I think 900 is way to low. I am diabetic and my dietitcian told me not to go under 1000 or above 1200.
  • brooke_g0501
    brooke_g0501 Posts: 66 Member
    If I'm right about this, I think that the less you weigh, the less your calories should be in order to lose weight. Now, I only weighed 116lbs when I started MFP, and it suggested that I eat 1200 cal a day. I've been sticking to the 1200 cals a day and have lost about 7 lbs! My BF is 6'2 and weighed 330lbs. His calories were lowered to about 2800 and he has lost 30lbs already! I think if you stick to 1200 daily, you will find that you will lose the weight!
  • Catzwitch
    Catzwitch Posts: 205 Member
    A lot of it truly does depend on the person's individual metabolism. Not all sizes fit everyone. 1200 is a good rule for the majority of people, but for some that is too much. Personally, I don't lose on 1200 (even when it is the *right* 1200). I have to eat under 1,000 net to see any progress.


    In actuality, many "doctor supervised" liquid diet programs are drastically less than 1200 a day....
  • angp7711
    angp7711 Posts: 324 Member
    Is the dr going to monitor your blood work often to make sure that you aren't doing any damage while you do that? Do you have health concerns to merit a drastic calorie change like that? I can't imagine what it could be at weighing only 160 lbs. I think maybe you should get a second opinion. I have done what he is asking of you but it was medically supervised. I had to take a bunch of supplements and have blood testing every other week to make sure I wasn't doing any damage. I was also about 240lbs at the time had high blood pressure and was pre-diabetic. Even with that I wouldn't recommend it. I gained all the weight back and quick as soon as I started eating an average diet.
  • therobinator
    therobinator Posts: 832 Member
    My Dr told me to eat 900 calories a day (max) in order to lose weight. Everything I have read tells me that my body would go into starvation mode, therefore preventing me from losing weight. Any suggestions? I am 5'3 160lbs - goal to get down to 120/125. I am eating no more than 1200 a day currently and have lost 7lbs so far in 1.5 weeks.
    You are taller than me, lighter than me, and eating FAR less than me.....I am still losing weight, and so are you, but only one of us is doing it healthfully and will see permanent results. I think you can do that math. :)

    The fact that you asked the question in the first place tells me you have a gut feeling.

    You asked: "any suiggestions?" I say: get a new doctor.
  • anubis609
    anubis609 Posts: 3,966 Member
    The URL, AKA The Caloric Intake Bible:
    http://shouldieatmyexercisecalories.com

    States that you should probably eat m220033176.jpg
  • hpsnickers1
    hpsnickers1 Posts: 2,783 Member
    A lot of it truly does depend on the person's individual metabolism. Not all sizes fit everyone. 1200 is a good rule for the majority of people, but for some that is too much. Personally, I don't lose on 1200 (even when it is the *right* 1200). I have to eat under 1,000 net to see any progress.


    In actuality, many "doctor supervised" liquid diet programs are drastically less than 1200 a day....

    You are losing weight but you are losing more muscle mass than fat mass. All this will do is slow your metabolism more. And you can't survive on less than 1200. It will start affecting your health, your systems and your organs.
  • ltkl7
    ltkl7 Posts: 7 Member
    I would definitely say that 900 calories a day is very unhealthy. My wife is getting ready to undergo lap-band surgery and she has to cut back to 800 calories a day for the 2 weeks before the surgery. This is only because it is necessary to do before the surgery.
  • Elise1931
    Elise1931 Posts: 184 Member
    I think no one should have calorie consumption less than their BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate), since it's the minimum energy your body need to keep the basic physical function, and 900 kcal/per day is much less than the average. You can estimate your own BMR with calculator such as the one in TOOLS section, or even you know your body fat percentage, try Katch-McArdle Formula:370 + (21.6 X lean body mass in kg) OR 370 + (9.8 X lean body mass in lbs) (lean body mass=body mass X (1-body fat %)). Try discuss this with your doctor, it's really not proper to have such a low calorie intake :~
  • MsMorningDew
    MsMorningDew Posts: 59 Member
    900...seems a bit low!
    I would at least eat 1200...you will be super tired especially if you are working out....
  • Keep with what your're doing, hun. It's working. And I believe from what I've also read that the less you eat, the more your body "holds on" to what it has. If you eat, it gives it fuel to burn calories. 1200 seems like a good place for you. No more than that I wouldn't think.:explode:
  • n0isehazard
    n0isehazard Posts: 14 Member
    Like another post said, if 1200 is working for you, stick to it, or you could simply try halving the deficit. Instead of just dieting, try pairing with exercise so that your metabolism will increase. I've read that for a 500 calorie deficit diet, it's not a bad idea to half cut 250 calories from food and exercise the other 250. Walking is a wonderful low impact exercise. Look into buying a pedometer for 10,000 steps a day.

    PS - Try and eat, even if it's a snack every 2-3 hours! Too little food or waiting until you're hungry to eat will trigger cortisol (the stress hormone) and conserve fat.

    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=53304

    Also, doctors are people, too. They may not always give perfect advice. Research and use your own wise judgement.
  • I suggest you get a new doctor. I am shocked at such terrible advice! All research points to the fact you need at LEAST 1200 calories a day to avoid slowing down your metabolism and kicking your body into "starvation mode" meaning it will start to save every calorie you give it so you can survive the "famine" of 2011!

    I think you should calculate your RMR using the "tools" on this website or do what I did and go get it tested so you know exactly how many calories you need to maintain your weight and then from there, you can calculate how many calories you need to lose weight based on your activity level and exercise.

    Good luck.
  • If I went by this, I would have to eat 720 calories a day to lose, 1220 to maintain.
    to maintain your weight, multiply your current weight by 10
    then to lose weight, subtract 500 from it and that would need to be your calorie intake for a 1 pound weightloss per week

    i wouldn't go down to 900 calories a day because it seems that would be setting myself up for failure...i would feel hungry all the time and feel deprived.
  • Whether or not you can starve yourself by eating less than 1200 calories a day, I think also depends on how mobile you are. Take me, for example. I ambulate by using a motorized wheelchair. So if moving my joystick with my fingers and hand all day burns as much as someone who walks or even pushes themselves around in a manual wheelchair (which my goal is to get back into a manual wheelchair), then someone needs to alert Jane Fonda lol.

    I've been tracking what I eat on the ipad app for about six weeks now and I've noticed that if I eat 1200 calories or more (I've seldom done that), I feel like I'm ready to burst. On the flip side, if I eat less than 1200, I feel satisfied and not hungry.

    I'm already losing some inches from my waist and I've recently noticed body parts are getting smaller and thinner. Idk how much weight i've lost since I'm unable to weigh myself, but I know I'm losing weight.
  • ralphrich
    ralphrich Posts: 8 Member
    1200 cals a day sounds like a reasonably serious goal. Besides that losing more than than rate creates more problems like folds of loose skin that hasn't or won't shrink.
  • funkyspunky872
    funkyspunky872 Posts: 866 Member
    Suggestion: don't.
  • Mcgrawhaha
    Mcgrawhaha Posts: 1,596 Member
    my dr told me, when i told her i was concerned that i was not losing at 1400, that i could drop to 1200, but absolutely no further. she said women require atleast 1200 cals a day, and men require atlest 1500 cals a day. she also made it clear that this was short term, to lose the majority of my weight, and then i needed to work my way back up to a more realistic calorie goal for maintaining. i cant imagine a dr telling someone to eat less than 900... that seems scary!
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