calculating weight of squats
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perfectlytrained
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I'm more of a luker than a poster, but I need clarification about something... In the "calling all female lifters" post, there's a squat weight there that is causing raised eyebrows.
My question: Does a person add in any part of their body weight to the bar weight? I ask this because I'm pretty heavy. like seriously. I look like I weigh about 30 -40 lbs less than I actually do... and I lift heavy, too.... so technically, I would be lifting more weight than someone who lifts the same bar weight but weighs 50 lbs less than I do, right?
My question: Does a person add in any part of their body weight to the bar weight? I ask this because I'm pretty heavy. like seriously. I look like I weigh about 30 -40 lbs less than I actually do... and I lift heavy, too.... so technically, I would be lifting more weight than someone who lifts the same bar weight but weighs 50 lbs less than I do, right?
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Generally you do not add any of your body weight when calculating what you squat. It's best not to compare yourself to anyone when lifting, but if you're going to, pick someone who is roughly the same weight. The heavier you are the more you should be able to lift.0
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nope you dont add body weight to your squat weight, but to your advantage, the heavier you, the more relative muscle you have and you can usually lift heavier. ( just a general rule ) that's why competitions have body weight classes.
everyone is different , dont compare yourself to anyone except your yesterday self.
however, the one thing that should be noted with squatting is depth, in the "Calling all lifters", i would question how many of them are squatting to depth and breaking parallel.
Regardless, kudos to everyone that puts that bar on their back and in their hands !!!!
oh and the only time i have an issue with extra weight when lifting is when i do pullups, I tell all the skinny girls around me that i wearing my own built in 30lb weight belt!0 -
nope you dont add body weight to your squat weight, but to your advantage, the heavier you, the more relative muscle you have and you can usually lift heavier. ( just a general rule ) that's why competitions have body weight classes.
everyone is different , dont compare yourself to anyone except your yesterday self.
however, the one thing that should be noted with squatting is depth, in the "Calling all lifters", i would question how many of them are squatting to depth and breaking parallel.
Regardless, kudos to everyone that puts that bar on their back and in their hands !!!!
oh and the only time i have an issue with extra weight when lifting is when i do pullups, I tell all the skinny girls around me that i wearing my own built in 30lb weight belt!
^^^ off topic but thanks so much for this pull up metaphor. it makes me feel much better!0 -
nope you dont add body weight to your squat weight, but to your advantage, the heavier you, the more relative muscle you have and you can usually lift heavier. ( just a general rule ) that's why competitions have body weight classes.
everyone is different , dont compare yourself to anyone except your yesterday self.
however, the one thing that should be noted with squatting is depth, in the "Calling all lifters", i would question how many of them are squatting to depth and breaking parallel.
Regardless, kudos to everyone that puts that bar on their back and in their hands !!!!
oh and the only time i have an issue with extra weight when lifting is when i do pullups, I tell all the skinny girls around me that i wearing my own built in 30lb weight belt!
Great advise as to who you compare yourself to!
Curious do you advocate squatting to parallel or below? I personally believe *kitten* to grass is the way to go!
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Nope, the weight you lift is the weight of the bar, the weight of the plates, and if you're using the old-school collars you may consider the weight of those as well because they could easily be 2.5lbs.
Now, when setting goals an optimal squat 1RM is going to be some percentage above your bodyweight. Roughly 2x bodyweight is for optimal sprinting speed and jumping, but that is a huge goal to shoot for if you're not a professional athlete. A good goal would be to squat your bodyweight for 1-rep and then you can set goals above that once you get there.0 -
Generally you do not add any of your body weight when calculating what you squat. It's best not to compare yourself to anyone when lifting, but if you're going to, pick someone who is roughly the same weight. The heavier you are the more you should be able to lift.
My friends rubs that in my face all the time. He does not know though that one day I will be stronger than him.
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nope you dont add body weight to your squat weight, but to your advantage, the heavier you, the more relative muscle you have and you can usually lift heavier. ( just a general rule ) that's why competitions have body weight classes.
everyone is different , dont compare yourself to anyone except your yesterday self.
however, the one thing that should be noted with squatting is depth, in the "Calling all lifters", i would question how many of them are squatting to depth and breaking parallel.
Regardless, kudos to everyone that puts that bar on their back and in their hands !!!!
oh and the only time i have an issue with extra weight when lifting is when i do pullups, I tell all the skinny girls around me that i wearing my own built in 30lb weight belt!
Great advise as to who you compare yourself to!
Curious do you advocate squatting to parallel or below? I personally believe *kitten* to grass is the way to go!
I know many of them do- I know I do- I keep video and have posted of all my PRs (and failed attempt's).
*kitten* to grass is nice- but it doesn't apply to low bar and it also doesn't make it legal or not.
Breaking parallel is a competition legal squat. period.
which means it is generally the adequate standard for validating a good squat. I cannot squat *kitten* to grass 235. But I can squat that to breaking parallel. If it's legal for a meet- it's good enough for me.0 -
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nope you dont add body weight to your squat weight, but to your advantage, the heavier you, the more relative muscle you have and you can usually lift heavier. ( just a general rule ) that's why competitions have body weight classes.
everyone is different , dont compare yourself to anyone except your yesterday self.
however, the one thing that should be noted with squatting is depth, in the "Calling all lifters", i would question how many of them are squatting to depth and breaking parallel.
Regardless, kudos to everyone that puts that bar on their back and in their hands !!!!
oh and the only time i have an issue with extra weight when lifting is when i do pullups, I tell all the skinny girls around me that i wearing my own built in 30lb weight belt!
Great advise as to who you compare yourself to!
Curious do you advocate squatting to parallel or below? I personally believe *kitten* to grass is the way to go!
I know many of them do- I know I do- I keep video and have posted of all my PRs (and failed attempt's).
*kitten* to grass is nice- but it doesn't apply to low bar and it also doesn't make it legal or not.
Breaking parallel is a competition legal squat. period.
which means it is generally the adequate standard for validating a good squat. I cannot squat *kitten* to grass 235. But I can squat that to breaking parallel. If it's legal for a meet- it's good enough for me.
Yup, what she said. And at parallel for the non-competitive lifter; it means that you have good quad, hamstring, gluteal, and hip activation.
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nope you dont add body weight to your squat weight, but to your advantage, the heavier you, the more relative muscle you have and you can usually lift heavier. ( just a general rule ) that's why competitions have body weight classes.
everyone is different , dont compare yourself to anyone except your yesterday self.
however, the one thing that should be noted with squatting is depth, in the "Calling all lifters", i would question how many of them are squatting to depth and breaking parallel.
Regardless, kudos to everyone that puts that bar on their back and in their hands !!!!
oh and the only time i have an issue with extra weight when lifting is when i do pullups, I tell all the skinny girls around me that i wearing my own built in 30lb weight belt!
Great advise as to who you compare yourself to!
Curious do you advocate squatting to parallel or below? I personally believe *kitten* to grass is the way to go!
I know many of them do- I know I do- I keep video and have posted of all my PRs (and failed attempt's).
*kitten* to grass is nice- but it doesn't apply to low bar and it also doesn't make it legal or not.
Breaking parallel is a competition legal squat. period.
which means it is generally the adequate standard for validating a good squat. I cannot squat *kitten* to grass 235. But I can squat that to breaking parallel. If it's legal for a meet- it's good enough for me.
Yes break parallel for a qualifying squat. i dont do ATG unless i have no weight and just loosening up, but i always squat below parallel in training, otherwise it doesn't count.
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it isn't safe for everyone to squat ATG0
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I think you're getting confused by the lb for lb thing?
For example, if I'm having a slightly tipsy argument with my bf I will say, 'lb for lb I'm stronger'. This is because I can squat just slightly more than my bodyweight and my bf can squat more but his more is a LOT less than his bodyweight.
At no point would you add any of your bodyweight to the total you squat so the above was the only thing I could think of that might answer your question.0 -
nope you dont add body weight to your squat weight, but to your advantage, the heavier you, the more relative muscle you have and you can usually lift heavier. ( just a general rule ) that's why competitions have body weight classes.
everyone is different , dont compare yourself to anyone except your yesterday self.
however, the one thing that should be noted with squatting is depth, in the "Calling all lifters", i would question how many of them are squatting to depth and breaking parallel.
Regardless, kudos to everyone that puts that bar on their back and in their hands !!!!
oh and the only time i have an issue with extra weight when lifting is when i do pullups, I tell all the skinny girls around me that i wearing my own built in 30lb weight belt!
Great advise as to who you compare yourself to!
Curious do you advocate squatting to parallel or below? I personally believe *kitten* to grass is the way to go!
I know many of them do- I know I do- I keep video and have posted of all my PRs (and failed attempt's).
*kitten* to grass is nice- but it doesn't apply to low bar and it also doesn't make it legal or not.
Breaking parallel is a competition legal squat. period.
which means it is generally the adequate standard for validating a good squat. I cannot squat *kitten* to grass 235. But I can squat that to breaking parallel. If it's legal for a meet- it's good enough for me.
Agreed...
For me anything under BW is ATG...but once I get over my BW my goal is to break parallel and at that point I do low bar (typically 180 and above)
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