yes ma'am, no ma'am, yes sir, no sir...
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I have tried to teach my sons yes/no sir/ma'am, please, thank you, and excuse me. It's not easy, especially when the other parent doesn't share your beliefs and doesn't help you to train them in the same way.0
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I am from California and was raised to say all of these. We also used Mrs. Neil, or Uncle John. Please and thank you, chewed with our mouth shuts, had manners in public. My kids live in Wyoming and it heartens me to hear them use the same manners!0
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My daughter says yes/no ma'am/sir, excuse me, please, thank you, I'm sorry I didn't hear you (instead of HUH?). She gives up her seat for adults, holds doors, if an adult drops something she will bend to pick it up for them, she offers to help elderly put bags in their cars, reach for things in the store, things of that nature. She always, always, takes the time to shake the hand of a retired/active duty/once served military member and thank them for their service. She stands when the American flag comes into view and hold her hand over her heart and sings during the National Anthem (sorry going off topic LOL).
It's never been a struggle it's what I taught her from day one. BTW I live in the South now, but she until she was 7 we lived in NJ. Also if she says thank you to you and you don't say you're welcome or if she does something for you and you don't say thank you, she will call you out on it. She's 14 now and the biggest compliment I get about her from friends and strangers alike, is how polite she is. Makes this momma very proud.0 -
I don't have any phrases, per se, but I am currently trying to teach my 13 and 7 year old gratitude and asking someone to do something and not demanding it.0
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I know this is a southern thing, and many of you would rather gouge out your ears than teach your kids to say these, but what expressions do you use/teach your kids for them to be polite, and how hard was the struggle to get your child to say them?
I have met some of the brattiest kids who call adults "sir" and "ma'am." Growing up, I called most of the adults in my life by their first names and I have always allowed my daughters' friends to use my first name. "Mr." and "Mrs.", etc., were for teachers. :-)
It wasn't difficult to get her to say the pleasantries, though. When she was really little, I had to remind her sometimes, but that's about it.
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i don't have kids, but we were taught to use Mr or Mrs with the first name. Like my neighbors were Mr Terry and Mrs Nancy. wasn't hard i guess. it was easier to remember as my parents called them Terry and Nancy, i didn't have to remember their last name. Esp since a lot of my dad's friends had weird polish last names (not unlike our own).0
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Both my kid's first words were please and thank you. Since we started out with them needed to say those words to get stuff it wasn't really a problem for us. They are now 5 and 2 and don't often have to be reminded to say those. if they don't ask properly, they don't get it. As for sir or Mam we kind of leave it up to who ever they are addressing to say what they want to be called. Strangers are usually sir or mam, but my daughters teacher and my husbands bosses are called by their first name because that what they prefer
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Raised in NH to say "sir", "ma'am"/"miss", please, thank you, etc.
When I was 14 and working my first job, I had a lady yell at me for calling her "ma'am", told me she wasn't old enough to be a "ma'am". She was probably in her 30s...
I think one of my grandfathers proudest moments was when I was 10 or so and we were heading to the Seafood Fest on the trolley. All of the seats were full when an older lady got on, I immediately got up, told her to take my seat, and I sat on my grandfather's lap.
I was also raised by my grandparents who were born in 1935 in New England so that very well may be a factor.0 -
Our children answer us "Yes ma'am and Yes Sir, etc., and all of there friends "copy" off of/imitate them and also call us Mr. & Mrs. and answer yes/no ma'am and sir. It's amazing how our children's lifestyle is admired and copied from their friends, instead of them following the "norms" of their friends--our children are leaders, instead of followers. Our children range between young and young adults. Our sons open doors (car doors, store doors, etc.) for me, their sisters and women. Our sons also help us with our coats and pull out out chairs (girls/ladies) for us when dining out and all of this is because I "trained" them at very early ages that this is how they are to speak, what they are to do, because they are "gentlemen" and that there is a "difference" between men and woman--boys and girls, that there is a "difference" between "polite societies, morals, values and standards of "proper behavior" and the vast acceptable standards/norms of society today. We've taught our daughters that modesty and decency is what is required of them in our household and that they are not better nor worse than anyone, just "CALLED" to be different--in their dress, speech and behavior, period. We've taught our children that they are to judge others...ONLY as they judge themselves first and to be humble, because life is not fair and they will reap what they sow, period. That it is EASY to follow after the culture (the so-called "church", the media, fashion, trends), and that they are to do what is hard and what others avoid, period. That this is our home and once they get grown and on their own, they may do as they please...but under our roof, we have rules, values, standards and morals, ethics that are different from the world, period. That we are to love people always...but to love God (The God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob and Jesus FIRST), period--and show people (by our love for/to others and themselves and by their behavior) how daring to be different and daring to be and think truly godly is what's truly cool!
That they are to be "different" and leaders and not followers of the masses and to NOT be in with the (in) crowds and that they are NOT do what's popular, "normal", "cool" and hip, but to think, behave and speak the exact OPPOSITE of what they see and hear in society (the so-called church, media, peer-pressure, etc.) and do what the greater majority of what their friends, family, media tries to indoctrinate them to be and do and speak. We've also taught our children NOT to follow the crowds (including the modern day "Christian" crowd) in terms of what's "expected" of them" in terms of schooling/higher education/employment--designed to have them begin their adults live in DEBT and to be trained to be future wage slaves, but to instead capitalize on what they love and have their own businesses (and many of them) to make, save and invest their monies, that they are to see DEBT as something they are to avoid like the plague...that they are to seek out to do the things that others shun (like hard work, manual labor, making their own "trends/fashion/music/etc) and doing things that most children and adults see as menial or "beneath" or "old-fashioned and out of style" to them--to seek out those "opportunities" others shun and turn them into their own businesses, that they are to NOT seek nor value, nor esteem what the "world" sees as valuable and highly esteemed or sought after. That whatever popular trends in society (including to modern day "church") they see--do the opposite!
Our family can RARELY if EVER go ANYWHERE without tons of people coming, constantly up to my husband and I (and now our children) without raving how polite, mannerable, wonderful they are. People LOVE them and often ask what my secret is to having such well-rounded, well spoken really terrific children answer? When this first started happening when they we're really young, I used to be glad about it--then it started grieving me, because the way our children behave is NOTHING that isn't just mere common courteousy and decency!
What are the results of such child-rearing/DARE I say training--what do I tell the multitudes of people that ask me what's my secret to having such so-called "good" children?
The results of these years of child training/teaching/rearing is The Fear of The Lord, and Loving God with ALL of our hearts, souls, mind and strength and loving our neighbor (people) as we do ourselves--doing unto others, what we would have done unto us, period. To esteem others as "better" than ourselves, and therefore, being able to avoid certain people, places and things without treating them poorly or snobbly-simply choosing to say NO, to what they've been trained is unacceptable without being rude, unkind or mean. I would call it being a "Christian" but the term and lifestyles of those that call themselves "Christians" today is so watered-down, so polluted and defiled with the things of this "world" that we dare NOT call ourselves "Christians"...instead we call ourselves "saints" and Followers of Jesus!
I WISH I could have grown up like this! Our children could careless what people think of them--they don't care if people like them or hate them, they don't care if people judge them or praise them--they are so secure and well-rounded. I'm blessed to be their mom!!!!!!!!0 -
We wouldn't use sir/madam etc...except to maybe a,teacher that would be sir or miss. Would not be expected to use these phrases in any other context in Ireland. They would have good manners and say please and thank you.0
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5stringjeff wrote: »I have tried to teach my sons yes/no sir/ma'am, please, thank you, and excuse me. It's not easy, especially when the other parent doesn't share your beliefs and doesn't help you to train them in the same way.
That's the entire problem these days, back when our parents and grandparents were kids it wasn't nearly this bad as everyone kinda had the same thing going on and even with the parents of the kids your kid is friends with. Now your kid could be friends with someone from a family of cavemen.
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Mine thinks it's funny to call me sir and her dad ma'am... The little twit.0
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I was never taught this. I'm respectful, but never like this.
I was leaving the gym the other day, though, and this kid who looked about 14-15 held the door for me. So I said thanks and he goes "no problem ma'am".
Ma'am?? How old do I look?? It was a weird moment haha.0 -
Having lived in both the South and the Northeast, I can safely say that the Southern portion of the country doesn't have the market cornered on politeness.
The South has a genteel veneer, which is often a false civility meant to make social interactions non-confrontational and tolerable. Fair enough. Who the hell wants to have bad dealings with people in their day-to-day lives? No one. Well, not "normal" people anyway.
That said, there are a great many polite and respectful people up North. I'm from New Jersey, lived in Alabama, moved to New York City during my formative years and now currently live in Upstate New York...I've met delightful people and jerks alike. Location is irrelevant. My husband's family operates in much the same way that mine did, and we lived in different regions.
I think what you're speaking of is more of a generational difference. My maternal grandmother was strict, hence my mother was fairly strict in comparison to many of my peers' parents. Table manners (how to hold utensils, proper etiquette), proper greetings and honorifics, appropriate social interactions ("please", "thank you", "pardon me?") and such were strictly enforced.
I look at people my age (I'm 32) who are parents, and they're far less strict about many of the things their parents were. My non-scientific theory (that isn't really mine) is that as the generations progress, certain aspects of culture become less important and are therefore discarded.
It's unfortunate in many ways, but it seems to be how things go.0 -
I've taught my children to always say please and thank you, excuse me, pardon me. In speech therapy the therapist told me not to worry about unimportant words like 'please and thank you'. I begged to differ and ignored her. My twins learned 'please' first and 'ta' next.0
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I'm from the south and I live in New York now. I grew up always using ma'am/sir/excuse me/etc. Actually my parents didn't enforce it very strictly, but I had friends whose parents did, and I wanted to feel sophisticated like my friends haha. Now that I live up north I occasionally get made fun of for constantly using these terms, but for the most part I find that people think it's charming. People usually tell me how sweet I am, and some honestly seem rather touched that I treat them with such respect. All this is to say that I think teaching your kids to use those terms is awesome, no matter where you're from.0
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My kids say ma'am, sir, thank you, please, you're welcome, excuse me...
I say it and I don't care if I am talking to someone who is 8, 38 or 88.0 -
When they were able to start talking it was just something I taught them to do. Some of their first words were thank you and please. Everyone comments on how polite my kids are. Yup I'm a great mom :P0
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We didn't grow up with ma'am or sir but please and thank you are are requirement. As is genuine gratitude. It was pretty easy to teach my daughters this because if they weren't polite, they didn't get what they'd wanted. And we had a year of living gratefully (all three of us) and I still get thanked for making dinner every single night. And even when we go out to eat.0
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