Not getting anywhere? Here might be the reason why...
RockstarWilson
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We try and try to do what every authority and conventional resource tells us to do. It is ingrained in our society. If you have tried "every" diet out there, and still not getting anywhere, you are probably being educated wrong.
Your body has 3 sources of energy: Carbohydrates, protein, fat. Conventional wisdom tells us that we need to eat a bunch of carbohydrates and we will be healthy. Cool. But do you have any clue how your body metabolizes carbohydrates? Energy is neither created nor destroyed, so when you eat those carbs, and do not use them right away for energy, it gets stored as fat. But how does your body burn fat? How can it if you are too busy stuffing apples for fuel?
Everyone tells us that we should cram fruits and veggies in our face, but if you have a desk job or some sedentary lifestyle, you can restrict calories all you want. As long as you eat carbs all day (and you have to ALL DAY, because you get hungry fast), you probably won't get anywhere. I see it time and time again on the threads: people who have no idea why they can't lose weight.
Historically, humans have relied on fats in the winter, and (maybe) plants in the summer. Inuits had no choice but to rely on whale and walrus meat and fat. Mammals other than humans use fat to keep themselves alive when plants and fruits aren't available. But as I educate myself on how my body processes nutrients, I am finding it interesting that as soon as we started farming fruits and stuff, we started contracting all these weird diseases. As soon as we started mass-producing processes stuff to feed an exponentially-increasing population, everyone started to get fat. Diseases and disorders came out of the woodworks. Coincidence? Probably not.
I think people need to educate themselves on how their body operates. I see it all the time where they will come on here looking for "answers." I am just one person, who is experimenting with one method of weight loss. But the more I educate myself and experiment, the more I see that conventional wisdom is not wisdom at all.
Thank you for reading this, and I have a question for you. If you can understand this question, and find the answer to it, you might be more educated than you were before, and that may help you decide on a new path that will help in both weight loss and health:
How does your body burn fat when it is too busy burning off that apple, cereal or pasta dish you ate and packing the rest away AS fat?
Your body has 3 sources of energy: Carbohydrates, protein, fat. Conventional wisdom tells us that we need to eat a bunch of carbohydrates and we will be healthy. Cool. But do you have any clue how your body metabolizes carbohydrates? Energy is neither created nor destroyed, so when you eat those carbs, and do not use them right away for energy, it gets stored as fat. But how does your body burn fat? How can it if you are too busy stuffing apples for fuel?
Everyone tells us that we should cram fruits and veggies in our face, but if you have a desk job or some sedentary lifestyle, you can restrict calories all you want. As long as you eat carbs all day (and you have to ALL DAY, because you get hungry fast), you probably won't get anywhere. I see it time and time again on the threads: people who have no idea why they can't lose weight.
Historically, humans have relied on fats in the winter, and (maybe) plants in the summer. Inuits had no choice but to rely on whale and walrus meat and fat. Mammals other than humans use fat to keep themselves alive when plants and fruits aren't available. But as I educate myself on how my body processes nutrients, I am finding it interesting that as soon as we started farming fruits and stuff, we started contracting all these weird diseases. As soon as we started mass-producing processes stuff to feed an exponentially-increasing population, everyone started to get fat. Diseases and disorders came out of the woodworks. Coincidence? Probably not.
I think people need to educate themselves on how their body operates. I see it all the time where they will come on here looking for "answers." I am just one person, who is experimenting with one method of weight loss. But the more I educate myself and experiment, the more I see that conventional wisdom is not wisdom at all.
Thank you for reading this, and I have a question for you. If you can understand this question, and find the answer to it, you might be more educated than you were before, and that may help you decide on a new path that will help in both weight loss and health:
How does your body burn fat when it is too busy burning off that apple, cereal or pasta dish you ate and packing the rest away AS fat?
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RockstarWilson wrote: »
How does your body burn fat when it is too busy burning off that apple, cereal or pasta dish you ate and packing the rest away AS fat?
Calorie deficit. Nothing getting packed away as fat. /thread
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Do you even science bro? This is WRONG WRONG WRONG!0
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My IQ just dropped 20 points from reading this.0
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RockstarWilson wrote: »
How does your body burn fat when it is too busy burning off that apple, cereal or pasta dish you ate and packing the rest away AS fat?
Calorie deficit. Nothing getting packed away as fat. /thread
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Ha. You're body burns both fat and carbs every second of every day, non stop. No matter what you eat. It's all about total calories.0
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So if you eat veggies and fruits all day you HAVE to be cramming carbs because you are THAT hungry? I'm so confused, no one has ever told me to cram veggies. I was told to up my protein if anything. Where did you learn all this craziness!?0
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RockstarWilson wrote: »If you have tried "every" diet out there, and still not getting anywhere, you are probably being educated wrong.
or it could be as simple as stuff like this happening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjKPIcI51lU&feature=youtu.be0 -
I follow a low-carb diet but this is the silliest thing I've heard in ages. Also heads up for the future - when you phrase things like
' I am finding it interesting that as soon as we started farming fruits and stuff, we started contracting all these weird diseases'
the words 'and stuff' immediately invalidate it. Also you need all those pesky little things like referencing actual academic studies.0 -
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For the complex process of carbs to fat conversion:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/374068-how-do-carbohydrates-convert-to-fat/
http://diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/04/24/5143/why-eating-too-many-carbs-makes-you-fat/
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/content/carbohydrate
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/happens-unburned-carbohydrates-2461.html
I can agree with a calorie deficit. If you are eating too much food in general, you will gain weight. But simply put, you cannot burn fat if your body is expecting carbs, and is burning energy that is stored as glycogen.-2 -
what exactly is you point? that last sentance made it sound like we should just not eat? or?
regaurdless, nonononononono everything you (attempted) to say is wrong0 -
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Maybe I'm totally dim and i've missed something here...
What ARE we supposed to eat? I don't get it.0 -
Okay. apparently all people can do is post gifs instead of proposing a counter-argument for the contrary. I would like some intelligent feeback, please, but if all you can do is post a bunch of memes, then I will have to discount your opinion, as you discount mine :-). This is simply my take on it. But I have a take, and I simply ask you to have one too. Instead of consorting to the mob action....tell me why I am wrong.0
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RockstarWilson wrote: »For the complex process of carbs to fat conversion:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/374068-how-do-carbohydrates-convert-to-fat/
http://diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/04/24/5143/why-eating-too-many-carbs-makes-you-fat/
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/content/carbohydrate
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/happens-unburned-carbohydrates-2461.html
I can agree with a calorie deficit. If you are eating too much food in general, you will gain weight. But simply put, you cannot burn fat if your body is expecting carbs, and is burning energy that is stored as glycogen.
False.
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RockstarWilson wrote: »For the complex process of carbs to fat conversion:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/374068-how-do-carbohydrates-convert-to-fat/
http://diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/04/24/5143/why-eating-too-many-carbs-makes-you-fat/
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/content/carbohydrate
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/happens-unburned-carbohydrates-2461.html
I can agree with a calorie deficit. If you are eating too much food in general, you will gain weight. But simply put, you cannot burn fat if your body is expecting carbs, and is burning energy that is stored as glycogen.
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shadow2soul wrote: »RockstarWilson wrote: »If you have tried "every" diet out there, and still not getting anywhere, you are probably being educated wrong.
or it could be as simple as stuff like this happening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjKPIcI51lU&feature=youtu.be
This was an EXCELLENT video. Should be required reading!
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RockstarWilson wrote: »For the complex process of carbs to fat conversion:
http://www.livestrong.com/article/374068-how-do-carbohydrates-convert-to-fat/
http://diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/04/24/5143/why-eating-too-many-carbs-makes-you-fat/
http://www.extension.iastate.edu/humansciences/content/carbohydrate
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/happens-unburned-carbohydrates-2461.html
I can agree with a calorie deficit. If you are eating too much food in general, you will gain weight. But simply put, you cannot burn fat if your body is expecting carbs, and is burning energy that is stored as glycogen.
These are not academic articles. Also none of them actually back up what you're saying. Let me break it down for you.
People eat carbs - yay calories \o/
They eat too many carbs and gain weight
They eat fewer carbs that don't give them enough calories to maintain their body as is. The body eats the carbs it does get up and then also takes from the fat cells to keep necessary functions going.
Calories in, calories out. If your body burns more (through your BMR and daily activity) than you eat you will lose body fat (and some lean tissues also) because that's what fat stores are for - times of scarcity. I'm honestly not seeing what you don't grasp about this process. Do you honestly think someone could eat 1000 calories of pure carbohydrate and yet not lose body fat?0
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