low carb diet

Bras465
Bras465 Posts: 1
edited November 8 in Introduce Yourself
I've read a lot about ppl losing lots of weight eating low carb. Can someone who has lost weight this way tell me if you have to do portion control, or can you eat as much protein and fat as you want. I want to do it, but don't want to waste my time. I have a slow metabolism due to hypothyroidism, so that is making it hard to lose weight right now. Getting frustrated?
thanks, brenda
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  • LiveLoveSwimming
    LiveLoveSwimming Posts: 129 Member
    I lost 10lbs from low carb dieting, I wish I could help but I didn't do anything special really. I ate normal but kept myself in a calorie deficit. I went from 130 to 120 in about 3 months. I would just advise you to make sure your eating enough protein and fats and micronutrients each day to stay healthy and I wouldn't recommend going under like 160 g of carbs each day, because you still need a good amount of carbs to have enough energy throughout the day.
  • Dave198lbs
    Dave198lbs Posts: 8,810 Member
    Bras465 wrote: »
    I've read a lot about ppl losing lots of weight eating low carb. Can someone who has lost weight this way tell me if you have to do portion control, or can you eat as much protein and fat as you want. I want to do it, but don't want to waste my time. I have a slow metabolism due to hypothyroidism, so that is making it hard to lose weight right now. Getting frustrated?
    thanks, brenda

    to lose weight with any eating plan, they all require some control. Total calories are what matter regardless of the macro breakdown, whether it is all fat or all protein. You should start by fiduring out how many calores you need to stay alive then start tracking how many you have been and are eating and learn up from there
  • shai74
    shai74 Posts: 512 Member
    60lbs down in 6 months here. I eat low carb high fat, or Keto. There are a few groups on here, and a facebook group called LCHF - Low Carb High Fat which is world wide and a good place to ask questions and find recipes without being badgered by the CICO crowd.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    If you think low carb is the way you'd like to approach weight loss, join this group, have a look around and ask a few questions.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    Actually, it isn't possible to lose weight if you're not in a calorie deficit, whether you achieve that deficit through a low-carb diet or just portion control. In other words, you can't eat more than you burn and still lose weight, no matter what you eat, and you can lose weight in a calorie deficit, no matter what you eat, even if it's nothing but Twinkies and Doritos (which I don't suggest as a healthy diet, but if you're curious, Google "Twinkie Diet.")

    Some people find that it's easier to maintain a calorie deficit if they cut out or limit certain foods or types of food, like carbs, alcohol, sweets, juice, starches, or whatever. If you find that cutting carbs helps you to stay within your goal, that might be a reason to consider it. But there is no magic to low-carb dieting which would make it possible to eat an excess of calories and still lose weight.
  • shai74
    shai74 Posts: 512 Member
    Actually, it isn't possible to lose weight if you're not in a calorie deficit, whether you achieve that deficit through a low-carb diet or just portion control. In other words, you can't eat more than you burn and still lose weight, no matter what you eat, and you can lose weight in a calorie deficit, no matter what you eat, even if it's nothing but Twinkies and Doritos (which I don't suggest as a healthy diet, but if you're curious, Google "Twinkie Diet.")

    Some people find that it's easier to maintain a calorie deficit if they cut out or limit certain foods or types of food, like carbs, alcohol, sweets, juice, starches, or whatever. If you find that cutting carbs helps you to stay within your goal, that might be a reason to consider it. But there is no magic to low-carb dieting which would make it possible to eat an excess of calories and still lose weight.

    Actually, you're sort of right, well done. However all calories are not created equal, and all macros are not treated the same by your body. Too many carbs causes your body to resond with insulin, and store fat. Low carb has the opposite effect. Which is why people can struggle to lose weight on 1200 cals of a low fat high carb diet, and easily lose weight on 1800 to 2000 cals of a low carb high fat diet. You can try and simplify a very complex process (how our bodies work) all you want, but there's more to it than you think. Maybe you just don't understand, and that's okay, there is plenty of reading out there and thousands of people who have shared their real life findings.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    edited November 2014
    shai74 wrote: »
    Actually, it isn't possible to lose weight if you're not in a calorie deficit, whether you achieve that deficit through a low-carb diet or just portion control. In other words, you can't eat more than you burn and still lose weight, no matter what you eat, and you can lose weight in a calorie deficit, no matter what you eat, even if it's nothing but Twinkies and Doritos (which I don't suggest as a healthy diet, but if you're curious, Google "Twinkie Diet.")

    Some people find that it's easier to maintain a calorie deficit if they cut out or limit certain foods or types of food, like carbs, alcohol, sweets, juice, starches, or whatever. If you find that cutting carbs helps you to stay within your goal, that might be a reason to consider it. But there is no magic to low-carb dieting which would make it possible to eat an excess of calories and still lose weight.

    Actually, you're sort of right, well done. However all calories are not created equal, and all macros are not treated the same by your body. Too many carbs causes your body to resond with insulin, and store fat. Low carb has the opposite effect. Which is why people can struggle to lose weight on 1200 cals of a low fat high carb diet, and easily lose weight on 1800 to 2000 cals of a low carb high fat diet. You can try and simplify a very complex process (how our bodies work) all you want, but there's more to it than you think. Maybe you just don't understand, and that's okay, there is plenty of reading out there and thousands of people who have shared their real life findings.


    That must be why there are so many obese Asians, with their enormous quantities of white rice. :D

    And no amount of condescension will allow you to eat a calorie surplus and lose weight, no matter how few or many carbs you include.
  • lorib642
    lorib642 Posts: 1,942 Member
    Bras465 wrote: »
    I've read a lot about ppl losing lots of weight eating low carb. Can someone who has lost weight this way tell me if you have to do portion control, or can you eat as much protein and fat as you want. I want to do it, but don't want to waste my time. I have a slow metabolism due to hypothyroidism, so that is making it hard to lose weight right now. Getting frustrated?
    thanks, brenda

    Hi Brenda. There is a wide range in what people consider low carb. I have started decreasing my carbs. You have to be in a calorie deficit to lose weight. I joined the group that was mentioned and people are helpful. Do you take anything for your hypo thyroid? Does it work? I take synthroid and my tsh is in the normal range now.

    You can add me as a friend if you would like :)
  • Wheelhouse15
    Wheelhouse15 Posts: 5,575 Member
    edited November 2014
    shai74 wrote: »
    60lbs down in 6 months here. I eat low carb high fat, or Keto. There are a few groups on here, and a facebook group called LCHF - Low Carb High Fat which is world wide and a good place to ask questions and find recipes without being badgered by the CICO crowd.

    I lost 40 in 3 1/2 months doing CICO (only 4lbs of which was LBM), so what's your point? I have nothing against Keto but I do have something to say against those who spread misinformation and frankly you are one of those.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    shai74 wrote: »
    Actually, it isn't possible to lose weight if you're not in a calorie deficit, whether you achieve that deficit through a low-carb diet or just portion control. In other words, you can't eat more than you burn and still lose weight, no matter what you eat, and you can lose weight in a calorie deficit, no matter what you eat, even if it's nothing but Twinkies and Doritos (which I don't suggest as a healthy diet, but if you're curious, Google "Twinkie Diet.")

    Some people find that it's easier to maintain a calorie deficit if they cut out or limit certain foods or types of food, like carbs, alcohol, sweets, juice, starches, or whatever. If you find that cutting carbs helps you to stay within your goal, that might be a reason to consider it. But there is no magic to low-carb dieting which would make it possible to eat an excess of calories and still lose weight.

    Actually, you're sort of right, well done. However all calories are not created equal, and all macros are not treated the same by your body. Too many carbs causes your body to resond with insulin, and store fat. Low carb has the opposite effect. Which is why people can struggle to lose weight on 1200 cals of a low fat high carb diet, and easily lose weight on 1800 to 2000 cals of a low carb high fat diet. You can try and simplify a very complex process (how our bodies work) all you want, but there's more to it than you think. Maybe you just don't understand, and that's okay, there is plenty of reading out there and thousands of people who have shared their real life findings.


    That must be why there are so many obese Asians, with their enormous quantities of white rice. :D

    And no amount of condescension will allow you to eat a calorie surplus and lose weight, no matter how few or many carbs you include.
    Enormous quantities? heh heh.

  • Chief_Rocka
    Chief_Rocka Posts: 4,710 Member
    shai74 wrote: »
    Actually, it isn't possible to lose weight if you're not in a calorie deficit, whether you achieve that deficit through a low-carb diet or just portion control. In other words, you can't eat more than you burn and still lose weight, no matter what you eat, and you can lose weight in a calorie deficit, no matter what you eat, even if it's nothing but Twinkies and Doritos (which I don't suggest as a healthy diet, but if you're curious, Google "Twinkie Diet.")

    Some people find that it's easier to maintain a calorie deficit if they cut out or limit certain foods or types of food, like carbs, alcohol, sweets, juice, starches, or whatever. If you find that cutting carbs helps you to stay within your goal, that might be a reason to consider it. But there is no magic to low-carb dieting which would make it possible to eat an excess of calories and still lose weight.

    Actually, you're sort of right, well done. However all calories are not created equal, and all macros are not treated the same by your body. Too many carbs causes your body to resond with insulin, and store fat. Low carb has the opposite effect. Which is why people can struggle to lose weight on 1200 cals of a low fat high carb diet, and easily lose weight on 1800 to 2000 cals of a low carb high fat diet. You can try and simplify a very complex process (how our bodies work) all you want, but there's more to it than you think. Maybe you just don't understand, and that's okay, there is plenty of reading out there and thousands of people who have shared their real life findings.


    That must be why there are so many obese Asians, with their enormous quantities of white rice. :D

    Ricecism

  • DAM5412
    DAM5412 Posts: 660 Member
    Every 'body' is unique and while some people only need to focus on a calorie deficit for consistent weight loss, some folks actually need to look at other things, like carb intake, as well. For me, personally, I feel better and lose more consistently eating low carb. My calorie intake has actually increased, but my weight loss remains consistent. I did low fat, lower calories for several months and got stuck at a plateau for 6 weeks. Switching to low carb has started my loss again and in a 6 week timeframe have lost 10lbs.

    If you are seriously considering a specific lifestyle (be it low carb or IIFYMs or Fasting, whatever), look for groups here dedicated to those approaches, otherwise your post will get hijacked by folks with their own special interests and no tolerance for other's approaches.

    Good luck!
  • NYCNika
    NYCNika Posts: 611 Member
    The reason people have success in "low carb" is that it eliminates a lot of convenience and processed foods that are so easy accessible, cheap, and can be reached for mindlessly.

    Balanced is better than low carb. The key is to limit processed carbs that instantly turn to sugar (such as pasta, cereals, breads, breakfast bars, etc...) that pack a lot of calories. Do not worry about complex carbs at all - such as veggies or fruit. You need those, your body evolved that way. What I do is make sure my side to my protein is mostly non-processed (pinapple salsa as a side to my chicken instead of rice, roasted veggies side to my meat instead of pasta or potatos), things like that. It is pretty natural not to overeat on those.
  • MelRC117
    MelRC117 Posts: 911 Member
    You are incorrect in the assumption that its unlimited protein and fats. You still have to be in a calorie deficit (processed, unprocessed, real sugar, fake sugar, organic, gmo do NOT matter when it comes to weight loss). to lose weight. The benefit that I find eating low carb is that I feel more full eating 1500 calories eating high fat, moderate protein, and low carbs than I do just lowering overall calories. Fat makes you feel full longer, resulting in eating less and creating that calorie deficit.
    You may want to try it if you struggle to feel full on limited calories. But it may be beneficial to get in the habit of watching overall calories because at some point it will matter. I watched only carbs for months and lost a lot of weight. Kept it off until I got pregnant and then found MFP. I could probably still only worry about carbs because I do have a lot of weight to lose again, however at some point my weight will get to a point where I do need to be mindful of my calories and a little overage will cause me to stall/gain. Good luck!
  • MelRC117
    MelRC117 Posts: 911 Member
    edited November 2014
    Edited because NOW I see Shai's second post.



  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    NYCNika wrote: »
    The reason people have success in "low carb" is that it eliminates a lot of convenience and processed foods that are so easy accessible, cheap, and can be reached for mindlessly.

    Balanced is better than low carb. The key is to limit processed carbs that instantly turn to sugar (such as pasta, cereals, breads, breakfast bars, etc...) that pack a lot of calories. Do not worry about complex carbs at all - such as veggies or fruit. You need those, your body evolved that way. What I do is make sure my side to my protein is mostly non-processed (pinapple salsa as a side to my chicken instead of rice, roasted veggies side to my meat instead of pasta or potatos), things like that. It is pretty natural not to overeat on those.

    Many so called processed carbs ARE complex carbs.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member

    NYCNika wrote: »
    The reason people have success in "low carb" is that it eliminates a lot of convenience and processed foods that are so easy accessible, cheap, and can be reached for mindlessly.

    Balanced is better than low carb. The key is to limit processed carbs that instantly turn to sugar (such as pasta, cereals, breads, breakfast bars, etc...) that pack a lot of calories. Do not worry about complex carbs at all - such as veggies or fruit. You need those, your body evolved that way. What I do is make sure my side to my protein is mostly non-processed (pinapple salsa as a side to my chicken instead of rice, roasted veggies side to my meat instead of pasta or potatos), things like that. It is pretty natural not to overeat on those.

    Many so called processed carbs ARE complex carbs.

    And fruit are simple carbs...

  • Chaotic_Weevil
    Chaotic_Weevil Posts: 199 Member
    For overall weight loss, calories are what matter in the end. You could eat low carb, high carb, high fat, high protein etc but you aren't going to change the laws of physics. Expend more energy than you consume and you will deplete your fat stores.

    That being said, I eat fairly low carb. Aside from a small amount of bread at breakfast, the majority of my carbs come from vegetables. I do so for the following reasons

    • it's harder to snack when you're limiting carbs, and I tend to take too many calories in via snacking

    •Protein and fat make me feel fuller than carbs do

    •By cutting starches out of meals and snacks, I tend to take in more vegetables. If I have the option of rice or bread or what have you, I normally won't eat enough veg. That leads to me not getting enough nutrients.

    •it leads to me being more creative with my meals and having more variety.

    •I find it leaves me less bloated.


    So, choosing to go low carb has some benefits for some people, but it's more related to how it affects your food choices and satiety than anything. If you have no trouble stating within your calorie goals whilst eating carbs, there isn't much reason to cut them out.
  • NYCNika
    NYCNika Posts: 611 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    NYCNika wrote: »
    The reason people have success in "low carb" is that it eliminates a lot of convenience and processed foods that are so easy accessible, cheap, and can be reached for mindlessly.

    Balanced is better than low carb. The key is to limit processed carbs that instantly turn to sugar (such as pasta, cereals, breads, breakfast bars, etc...) that pack a lot of calories. Do not worry about complex carbs at all - such as veggies or fruit. You need those, your body evolved that way. What I do is make sure my side to my protein is mostly non-processed (pinapple salsa as a side to my chicken instead of rice, roasted veggies side to my meat instead of pasta or potatos), things like that. It is pretty natural not to overeat on those.

    Many so called processed carbs ARE complex carbs.

    And fruit are simple carbs...

    Fruit has both complex and simple carbs, with some instant energy release and some gradual. It is actually a very good combination.

    OK, give me some examples of processed foods that are complex unrefined carbs?

  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    NYCNika wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    NYCNika wrote: »
    The reason people have success in "low carb" is that it eliminates a lot of convenience and processed foods that are so easy accessible, cheap, and can be reached for mindlessly.

    Balanced is better than low carb. The key is to limit processed carbs that instantly turn to sugar (such as pasta, cereals, breads, breakfast bars, etc...) that pack a lot of calories. Do not worry about complex carbs at all - such as veggies or fruit. You need those, your body evolved that way. What I do is make sure my side to my protein is mostly non-processed (pinapple salsa as a side to my chicken instead of rice, roasted veggies side to my meat instead of pasta or potatos), things like that. It is pretty natural not to overeat on those.

    Many so called processed carbs ARE complex carbs.

    And fruit are simple carbs...

    Fruit has both complex and simple carbs, with some instant energy release and some gradual. It is actually a very good combination.

    OK, give me some examples of processed foods that are complex unrefined carbs?

    I don't think that's true...
  • triinityz
    triinityz Posts: 146 Member
    Bras465 wrote: »
    I've read a lot about ppl losing lots of weight eating low carb. Can someone who has lost weight this way tell me if you have to do portion control, or can you eat as much protein and fat as you want. I want to do it, but don't want to waste my time. I have a slow metabolism due to hypothyroidism, so that is making it hard to lose weight right now. Getting frustrated?
    thanks, brenda

    If you have health issues make sure you check with your doctor! I've lost 65 pounds low carb, 30 grams or less a day. I've done both lower calorie as well as "eat what I want" and had more success when I kept cals at a reasonable amount for my BMR (1600-1800 per day.) I've NEVER had a lack of energy at this carb level.
  • lorib642
    lorib642 Posts: 1,942 Member
    NYCNika wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    NYCNika wrote: »
    The reason people have success in "low carb" is that it eliminates a lot of convenience and processed foods that are so easy accessible, cheap, and can be reached for mindlessly.

    Balanced is better than low carb. The key is to limit processed carbs that instantly turn to sugar (such as pasta, cereals, breads, breakfast bars, etc...) that pack a lot of calories. Do not worry about complex carbs at all - such as veggies or fruit. You need those, your body evolved that way. What I do is make sure my side to my protein is mostly non-processed (pinapple salsa as a side to my chicken instead of rice, roasted veggies side to my meat instead of pasta or potatos), things like that. It is pretty natural not to overeat on those.

    Many so called processed carbs ARE complex carbs.

    And fruit are simple carbs...

    Fruit has both complex and simple carbs, with some instant energy release and some gradual. It is actually a very good combination.

    OK, give me some examples of processed foods that are complex unrefined carbs?

    fructose is a simple carb

    Complex carbohydrates, or polysaccharides, are composed of simple sugar units in long chains called polymers. Three polysaccharides are of particular importance in human nutrition : starch, glycogen , and dietary fiber .

    http://www.faqs.org/nutrition/Ca-De/Carbohydrates.html
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    NYCNika wrote: »
    The reason people have success in "low carb" is that it eliminates a lot of convenience and processed foods that are so easy accessible, cheap, and can be reached for mindlessly.

    Balanced is better than low carb. The key is to limit processed carbs that instantly turn to sugar (such as pasta, cereals, breads, breakfast bars, etc...) that pack a lot of calories. Do not worry about complex carbs at all - such as veggies or fruit. You need those, your body evolved that way. What I do is make sure my side to my protein is mostly non-processed (pinapple salsa as a side to my chicken instead of rice, roasted veggies side to my meat instead of pasta or potatos), things like that. It is pretty natural not to overeat on those.

    Many so called processed carbs ARE complex carbs.

    And fruit are simple carbs...
    Exactly.

  • ViolaLeeBlueberry
    ViolaLeeBlueberry Posts: 182 Member
    edited November 2014
    That must be why there are so many obese Asians, with their enormous quantities of white rice. :D

    There are. It's a huge problem. I live in Asia, and many of my relatives and neighbors are suffering from obesity and diabetes. The reason seems pretty obvious to me -- they continue to eat traditional amounts of rice, but are now following a "modern" lifestyle (instead of working in the fields, walking everywhere, etc). Processed foods with added sugars are still only a minor contributor; oils are certainly part of it; but the basic issue IMO is too much rice. It's a complicated topic, but basically you can burn off rice if you're highly active, but not at traditional levels if you're sedentary.
  • fatnutjob
    fatnutjob Posts: 20 Member
    You can't eat endless amounts of protein and fat unless your goal is weight gain.

    I more than likely suffer gluten intolerance (having a blood test tomorrow to rule out celiac's) so I've been going low carb/high fat/moderate protein for the last few weeks and I find I'm eating more and actually enjoying the foods I'm eating because they're mostly things like burgers and hot dogs (without the buns), lasagne, shepherd's pie, and a lot of other stuff. (Mind's gone blank so I can't think of all the foods I eat. All my low carb meal ideas come from Pinterest.) I'm still restricting calories but have had to add a lot more veg to my diet so I can get some carbs. I've been losing weight at the same rate as before, it's just that now I have a lot more energy and I'm nowhere near as bloated as I used to be.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    fatnutjob wrote: »
    You can't eat endless amounts of protein and fat unless your goal is weight gain.

    I more than likely suffer gluten intolerance (having a blood test tomorrow to rule out celiac's) so I've been going low carb/high fat/moderate protein for the last few weeks and I find I'm eating more and actually enjoying the foods I'm eating because they're mostly things like burgers and hot dogs (without the buns), lasagne, shepherd's pie, and a lot of other stuff. (Mind's gone blank so I can't think of all the foods I eat. All my low carb meal ideas come from Pinterest.) I'm still restricting calories but have had to add a lot more veg to my diet so I can get some carbs. I've been losing weight at the same rate as before, it's just that now I have a lot more energy and I'm nowhere near as bloated as I used to be.

    Lasagne might not be the best choice for either low carb or GF.
  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
    If you can't control your portions, you're not going to lose weight. Some people insist on magical, silver-bullet cures, so low carb was born. It is just another elimination scheme to create a calorie deficit. It's not the food, it's YOU.
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,018 Member
    fatnutjob wrote: »
    You can't eat endless amounts of protein and fat unless your goal is weight gain.

    I more than likely suffer gluten intolerance (having a blood test tomorrow to rule out celiac's) so I've been going low carb/high fat/moderate protein for the last few weeks and I find I'm eating more and actually enjoying the foods I'm eating because they're mostly things like burgers and hot dogs (without the buns), lasagne, shepherd's pie, and a lot of other stuff. (Mind's gone blank so I can't think of all the foods I eat. All my low carb meal ideas come from Pinterest.) I'm still restricting calories but have had to add a lot more veg to my diet so I can get some carbs. I've been losing weight at the same rate as before, it's just that now I have a lot more energy and I'm nowhere near as bloated as I used to be.

    Lasagne might not be the best choice for either low carb or GF.

    Unless it's zucchini lasagna.... That stuff if delicious.
  • baconslave
    baconslave Posts: 7,018 Member
    For overall weight loss, calories are what matter in the end. You could eat low carb, high carb, high fat, high protein etc but you aren't going to change the laws of physics. Expend more energy than you consume and you will deplete your fat stores.

    That being said, I eat fairly low carb. Aside from a small amount of bread at breakfast, the majority of my carbs come from vegetables. I do so for the following reasons

    • it's harder to snack when you're limiting carbs, and I tend to take too many calories in via snacking

    •Protein and fat make me feel fuller than carbs do

    •By cutting starches out of meals and snacks, I tend to take in more vegetables. If I have the option of rice or bread or what have you, I normally won't eat enough veg. That leads to me not getting enough nutrients.

    •it leads to me being more creative with my meals and having more variety.

    •I find it leaves me less bloated.


    So, choosing to go low carb has some benefits for some people, but it's more related to how it affects your food choices and satiety than anything. If you have no trouble stating within your calorie goals whilst eating carbs, there isn't much reason to cut them out.

    Exactly.

  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    baconslave wrote: »
    fatnutjob wrote: »
    You can't eat endless amounts of protein and fat unless your goal is weight gain.

    I more than likely suffer gluten intolerance (having a blood test tomorrow to rule out celiac's) so I've been going low carb/high fat/moderate protein for the last few weeks and I find I'm eating more and actually enjoying the foods I'm eating because they're mostly things like burgers and hot dogs (without the buns), lasagne, shepherd's pie, and a lot of other stuff. (Mind's gone blank so I can't think of all the foods I eat. All my low carb meal ideas come from Pinterest.) I'm still restricting calories but have had to add a lot more veg to my diet so I can get some carbs. I've been losing weight at the same rate as before, it's just that now I have a lot more energy and I'm nowhere near as bloated as I used to be.

    Lasagne might not be the best choice for either low carb or GF.

    Unless it's zucchini lasagna.... That stuff if delicious.

    right
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