Diet and reward
Mudler
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OK, so you've done well, eaten strictly and healthily for lets say a Month. You've hit your short term targets, although not your ultimate goal. Even MFP is proud of you, everything's going well.
Then just for a change you want a burger or a Chinese meal or even a pizza. You know MFP is going to give you the dreaded red number.
How bad is it actually if you do that? Will it have any effect? or will it just be a small bump in the road as long as you carry on as usual the following day.
Just curious, I really fancy a Chinese
Then just for a change you want a burger or a Chinese meal or even a pizza. You know MFP is going to give you the dreaded red number.
How bad is it actually if you do that? Will it have any effect? or will it just be a small bump in the road as long as you carry on as usual the following day.
Just curious, I really fancy a Chinese
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It's just a small bump in the road if you get back on track the next day.
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It's one day, enjoy yourself. Personally, I eat what I want within my calorie goals so I don't feel the need to go over.0
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make it fit your day, if not, it's only 1 day, not going to reset everything.0
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Enjoy it and don't feel guilty! It's even good for your metabolism to change it up a bit. Just make sure to get right back on the wagon afterward !0
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Enjoy it, log it and get back on track the next day. My take is, if this is going to be a way of life, we have to figure out how to live it up a little, too.
Here's an article I just read about Thanksgiving strategy and I like it:
http://blog.myfitnesspal.com/2014/11/whats-a-weight-neutral-holiday-why-you-should-aim-for-one/0 -
This should be a lifestyle change, not a diet for x amount of time. If you want Chinese food then eat it and enjoy it. It will not set you back.0
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I eat at or just under MFP's calorie limit Mon-Thurs. Often, about once a weekend (Fri-Sun) there is a day when I am not tracking because it's a potluck or we're eating out or bar crawl or whatever. I don't binge, but I enjoy myself. I eyeball portion sizes and try to only do it for one meal (as opposed to "Well, I screwed up for lunch. I may as well have a massive dinner too!"). I've steadily lost weight. For me, it's about developing a pattern: make good choices during the week and have one mildly excessive meal during the weekend. That's how I want to live the rest of my life. I gained weight in the first place because I was eating WAY too much at work and then drinking 2 nights a week.0
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I've actually had more success with having one day that is over per week, I think it fools my body and keeps it off balance.0
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Just eat Chinese! It's easier if you think of this as a lifestyle change instead of some punishing diet. Like, I just had steak quesadillas for lunch.
I eat pizza and hot wings and burgers. And I don't even have to go over my calories to do it.
The foods aren't "bad" or a "cheat" or "unhealthy". Just figure out what you want to eat and then work it into your day. And if you go over that's FINE. It's one day out of the rest of your LIFE. Enjoy it.0 -
OK, so you've done well, eaten strictly and healthily for lets say a Month. You've hit your short term targets, although not your ultimate goal. Even MFP is proud of you, everything's going well.
Then just for a change you want a burger or a Chinese meal or even a pizza. You know MFP is going to give you the dreaded red number.
How bad is it actually if you do that? Will it have any effect? or will it just be a small bump in the road as long as you carry on as usual the following day.
Just curious, I really fancy a Chinese
One day? Almost none. How much does that one day happen.
Thing is, I have a questions. Is it particular foods you're thinking about, or is it wanting to eat those foods without thinking of the final calorie count.
I was actually craving McDonald's, of all things, today.
I got Happy Meal - 410 calories. That's within the normal tolerances for normal lunch for me, calorie-wise. So, for me this neither a question nor an issue. I'm not going over for calories today.
If what you really want is to eat a meal without thinking about the calories, that's something else entirely. Once isn't going to mean anything. But how OFTEN you do that matters a great deal.
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I've always managed to mostly incorporate the food I wanted in my calories. Think of what kind of Chinese food you want, and just order that dish... or one or two slices of pizza. Hamburgers are pretty easy to fit IMO as long as you don't go nuts on the toppings (or you can buy leaner beef and make your own).0
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Depends. A lifestyle change is what's going to have you arrive at your goals. I don't see unhealthy food choices as a 'reward '. I see them as unhealthy food choices today and unhealthy tomorrow. When is it good to eat pizza with toppings...never. Especially if you are not yet at a healthy weight.
Will it hurt you physically...no. It just takes away some of your self satisfaction and well earned esteem.
Healthy foods are not 'second best'. Hopefully as you become healthier you will get a high off of fitness and 'the good stuff'. A proud self discipline sets in. Call it 'smug' but I like to be able to say that I haven't eaten a cookie in a decade and have no desire to. Right now I'm craving that Mango in my fruit basket.0 -
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Why on earth would you lose self esteem for having a chinese? Awful way of looking at things. Its because people try and diet with too much pressure instead of viewing it as a lifestyle change , then they dont know when to relax and end up quitting or binging. Theres a time and a place for everything. Who wants to go a decade without eating some fast food? not me. Pointless demonising food. Eat it , enjoy it, log it and move on.
Dont start with cheat days though because the psychology and justification for those is all a bit messed up imo.
TBF I agree with Mr M27 on his point. Who wants to be smug about their food choices?0 -
Personally speaking, i have no objection to eating chinese or other asian food whilst dieting. Not an every day thing but occasionally its fine. As for pizza well, i probably wouldn't go there when in weightloss mode except on a day you feel strong and not particularly hungry so that you can stop at one piece. I think i've had 2 small pieces of home made pizza all year.
Anyway if you have a habit of overeating these foods, you could be opening the door to end of trouble.
If you want them as part of your regular diet long into the future, you will have to figure out a strategy whereby that's possible and acceptable. My issue is with sweet foods. I have very clear rules and it works out that i eat these foods about once a month or less. I think that is an appropriate regularity for foods that you tend to overeat and cause you weight gain.
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You shouldn't deprive yourself from things, otherwise you'll go crazy and probably binge. Fit 'cheat foods' into your calories. If you want that slice of chocolate cake, coordinate a certain amount of calories for it... go exercise for it.
Don't restrict yourself too much, it's detrimental.0 -
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Depends. A lifestyle change is what's going to have you arrive at your goals. I don't see unhealthy food choices as a 'reward '. I see them as unhealthy food choices today and unhealthy tomorrow. When is it good to eat pizza with toppings...never. Especially if you are not yet at a healthy weight.
Will it hurt you physically...no. It just takes away some of your self satisfaction and well earned esteem.
Healthy foods are not 'second best'. Hopefully as you become healthier you will get a high off of fitness and 'the good stuff'. A proud self discipline sets in. Call it 'smug' but I like to be able to say that I haven't eaten a cookie in a decade and have no desire to. Right now I'm craving that Mango in my fruit basket.
As someone who's lost 50+ pounds in ten months and has enjoyed pizza nearly once a week, it is good. Congratulations on having the discipline to avoid treats; I'll keep eating them and keep losing.0 -
You shouldn't deprive yourself of the foods you love. It will not hurt you or set you off track in anyway if you choose to eat chinese, a burger or pizza any day. It's about moderation and making it fit into your daily goal. You only live this life once. Enjoy it and all the foods. 0
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Thanks all so much and yeah. There is a danger that this whole dieting thing can become too much of an obsession. You feel guilty when you eat chocolate etc.
I think it really does have to be a Controlled thing. You have to stick fairly rigidly to it of course but not at the expense of living and enjoying the little pleasures in life sometimes.
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The only thing you should be concerned about eating Chinese is that you have to drink a couple of extra glasses of water to offset the sodium. There is absolutely nothing wrong with pizza, burgers or Chinese food. Make it fit your allotment, or eat it, log it move on.0
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You have two choices. You could crave and resist until your head explodes or work the food you enjoy into your calorie’s budget. There isn’t anything wrong with eating at or above your calorie’s maintenance level once in a while. Personally, I think it should be part of the process. I think it is good for the mind, body, and soul.
For some people, high sodium causes water retention. If you are such a person, just drink plenty of water/fluid in order to flush out and balance the sodium and you will be fine. Unless you have a medical reason for restricting certain foods then focus on restricting your calories and not your food.
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Depends. A lifestyle change is what's going to have you arrive at your goals. I don't see unhealthy food choices as a 'reward '. I see them as unhealthy food choices today and unhealthy tomorrow. When is it good to eat pizza with toppings...never. Especially if you are not yet at a healthy weight.
Will it hurt you physically...no. It just takes away some of your self satisfaction and well earned esteem.
Healthy foods are not 'second best'. Hopefully as you become healthier you will get a high off of fitness and 'the good stuff'. A proud self discipline sets in. Call it 'smug' but I like to be able to say that I haven't eaten a cookie in a decade and have no desire to. Right now I'm craving that Mango in my fruit basket.
Smug? No. Martyrdom, most definitely. I hope you attain Sainthood or else it would've all been for nothing, yes?0 -
OP, log it and make it fit your day so you don't go into the red. If you do, don't sweat it, it's just a day in the bigger picture. Deprivation doesn't work for anyone except those seeking Sainthood. Ahem ^^^ see above.0
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